kiara
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:30:15 PM new
And AWeeBitOWhimsy comes here and she's screwed up and she has all the excuses. And we don't all agree with her and hold her hand so she gets all irate and defensive and starts storming her little tantrum. 
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masujoviga
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:34:25 PM new
how do you do that little green face?
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kiara
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:46:47 PM new
Click here and you can learn how to do all the smilies:
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&thread=187440&id=187440
Have fun! 
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alwaysbroke
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:52:46 PM new
Thank you drbrownauctions and bettylou for explaining Bidpay. In the buyer's mind she WAS sending a MO, and I didn't know it. oops. duh! Time to take Seller's Auction 101.
I going to tape your definition to my desk.
Peace (and lots of it)
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masujoviga
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:54:59 PM new
 LOVE IT
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Julesy
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posted on February 7, 2002 02:13:59 AM new
Bettylou --
Did she reimburse you for any/all bad check charges levied by your bank?
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tomwiii
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posted on February 7, 2002 02:45:43 AM new
YOU HURT MY FEELINGS!
OTOH: at least I;m NOT a slimeball check-bouncer! 
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alwaysbroke
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posted on February 7, 2002 05:13:07 AM new
"stalker mentality"
Well, I guess collection agencies should be legally sued as stalkers. I was a secretary in a Credit Dept. They call 3x a day, every day plus weekly mail threats. They don't care why you can't pay. They want the money, plus any fees they can slap you with. They have rudeness down to a science. It's a game - they do not want to work anything out. They won't even let you talk to the same person twice hoping they'll wear you down.
bettylou followed all Ebay procedures step-by-step from the bottom up. Calling the police was the last step taken. Did she use "collection agency" tactics? No.
In my little town I am on a 1st name basis with all the store owners. They no longer verify my checks before stashing them in the drawer. BUT - If I were to bounce even one, I would have to pay by cash on all future purchases. They would not smile when I come in the door anymore.
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Libra63
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posted on February 7, 2002 05:54:26 AM new
Good Morning all. Just woke up and the saga continuse.
[b]Bidpay is a great service. International buyers use it alot and yes, when I received notice that I had a Money Order I shipped right away. The Money Order was here the same day the buyer got his merchandise. 3 days. Mine was an international sale and I sent the merchandise global priority, small envelope, can't insure it but it got there in three days.
The reason I didn't use my ebay name was because I signed up here first and I didn't want this name on ebay. We all have reasons for our user ID.
The moderators use to have a forum but I notice that that has disappeared. Maybe you could just email AW but I bet there is a moderator lurking in here somewhere. Take care
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wrldtrvlr
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posted on February 7, 2002 06:37:12 AM new
Read some history, people have always been going off to war and thousands have been killed everyday for centuries. You think you are living in a unique time? Just shows how self centered you are! I for one think we are extremely lucky to be living today as there are so many opportunities most of us would not have had in the past when economic times were bad. The basic fact that we are able to make a business on the internet from our homes is a huge advantage.
Also consider the fact that the insurance companies had every right to not pay out on the WTC disaster because most contracts are null and void if caused by an act of war. If you did not know, they paid up and made no excuses.
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drbrownauctions
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posted on February 7, 2002 06:57:21 AM new
what's sad is that WeeBit thinks she's right. She really, really thinks she's right. She should be on a talk show.
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wrldtrvlr
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posted on February 7, 2002 07:05:50 AM new
I have heard of these people who have their "own reality", and they really think people will believe them no matter how absurd or contradictory they are. Funny, reminds me of "Groundhog Day", where you get to try again the next day and the world has no past info of your actions or mistakes, ha!
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masujoviga
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posted on February 7, 2002 07:06:16 AM new
I like the smileys 
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BananaSpider
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posted on February 7, 2002 08:13:58 AM new
Well, now that AWeeBitOWhimsy has taken her dolly and gone home, I would like to chime in again.
I don't use my eBay id here. I used to, but recently registered again under this alias.
The fact that AWeeBitOWhimsy searched AW user id's on eBay, pushes me right off the fence into bettylou's yard.
What was she going to do if she found one of us on eBay anyway?? Hmmm...that is exactly why I stopped using my eBay id here.
On a lighter note, tomwiii, chin up little fella, all your words were spelled correctly. Please come back out and play. 
BS
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wrldtrvlr
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posted on February 7, 2002 08:27:05 AM new
I have always posted with my real one, but yesterday I knew to start a new one. Again reality! Trying to accuse us when we all had the foresight to see she should not have access to us. Thanks for the proof!
God, I had a "friend" like this years ago in Japan. She would do something horrible, and then ask why I then took action which was to protect myself from her doing what she just did! Complete ignorance of what she was doing and the consequences. My other pals still still feel anger remembering her absurd reasoning.
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bettylou
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posted on February 7, 2002 08:32:31 AM new
julesy: I believe the BidPay payment includes two $5 reimbursements for the bad checks. My bank is amazingly reasonable in that it only charges a $5 returned check fee.
However (and this is something that hasn't been discussed much here), it's only a partial reparation. I am still out listing fees on the second set of auctions she defaulted on. I'm at home and don't have access to my records, but it's certainly no less than $10.20 (34 auctions times $.30) and probably more.
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mrfoxy76
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posted on February 7, 2002 09:04:35 AM new
i think after all that has happened i would be grateful you somewhat got all of your money minus some fees....shame you cannot get your time reimbursed!
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bettylou
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posted on February 7, 2002 10:07:37 AM new
mrfoxy76: Wasting listing fees and dozens of hours on sucky customers is part of doing business, I'm afraid.
I just wanted to point out that aweebitofraud had made another misstatement in this thread when she said all I was out was final value fees (and those had been refunded).
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trai
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posted on February 7, 2002 10:20:12 AM new
AWeeBitOWhimsy
You need to get your life in order.
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masujoviga
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posted on February 7, 2002 10:24:15 AM new
bet she believed Clinton's "I never had sexual relations with that woman..."
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AWeeBitOWhimsy
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posted on February 7, 2002 12:13:40 PM new
Ok,
One last appearance. I did not search out any of you on Ebay. I don't even know where that comment came from. I simply stated that I thought it was funny that everyone else is hiding behind a psuedonym. I do not seek retaliation. You have all stated your opinion and I have stated my position and since no bridges could be made this is as far as it goes.
I understand that historically life is rough. I was simply trying to point out that things happen out of our control and we need to deal with that. I also was trying to say that many people, who thought that they had steady jobs, have recently lost thier's and it has affected us all. Does that make them bad people? No.
As far as Betty Lou goes, you've got your $, I paid your bank fees, I offered to pay your relisting fees and Ebay has given you a credit for them. I don't know what else to tell you. Accept the $ and move on.
Also to the person who called me a liar for stating that Betty has 100+ negs, I meant negs+nuetrals, sorry I didn't clarify that. The BIG lie here is "Winner bids on 60+ auctions with 2 NSF". It was exactly 35. NOT 60 as stated over and over by Betty. Count the Negs for yourself--35, NOT 60! Now who is lying? Don't take my word for it. Count them for yourself and come to your own conclusion. Well, on that note I'm outta here.
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drbrownauctions
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posted on February 7, 2002 01:11:22 PM new
outta here til she thinks of something else to say
weebit, I'm not saying bad things don't happen. And I'm not saying that we don't need to be understanding. What I AM saying is that it's not the place of the person who is "down on their luck" to teach the person who is in the right a lesson about how to treat people "down on their luck."
It may very well be bad business for bettylou to be rude to you for bouncing a check. But the fact is that doesn't give you the right to withhold payment to teach her a lesson.
If you didn't search for us on eBay how do you know we're hiding behind pseudonyms? It was only logical (we're sorry if you don't have any) for us to assume that you checked.
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deuchler
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posted on February 7, 2002 02:49:00 PM new
Been following this thread for awhile. Amazing isn't it?
It appears to boil down to responsibility. Not accepting the responsibility for their actions. AWeeBitOWhimsy wrote a bad check...and is not being responsible for it. She states the seller was 'rude'...HELLO! I don't know if she was or not...but what kind of reaction from her where you expecting?
You should have immediately been apologetic, ashamed, and doing everything in your power to make it right with the seller. Instead you retaliated. That is the act of a guilty person and someone who refuses to accept the responsibility of their actions. Then you follow it up with another bad check! Sorry AWeeBitOWhimsy...you are wrong. Totally. You screwed up. And regardless of how she reacted, you owed her an apology first. And I have a feeling she would have followed yours with her own. You need to Grow up.
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bettylou
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posted on February 7, 2002 05:38:25 PM new
Looks like the Powers That Be removed the offending post from aweebitofraud. Thanks, AuctionWatch!
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DivaTs
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posted on February 7, 2002 07:33:55 PM new
Whoa!
<p>
That was a hell of a story!
<P>
Thanks bettylou, and aweebito-whatever (I'm sorry but I'm not feelin' you at all) I'm not sure that "Betty" is completely in the right... but I can't say that I would have done anything differently.
<P>
Peace to everyone!
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bettylou
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posted on February 7, 2002 07:43:36 PM new
deuchler: I'm curious...why do you think I should have apologized or should now apologize to aweebitofraud?
I'm not angry, I just want to hear your reasoning.
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DivaTs
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posted on February 7, 2002 07:51:53 PM new
Just one more thing....
WeeBit:
Please don't involve the WAR, and the people being killed in it, in your multiple check bouncing practices.
I'm an AMERICAN, therefore that offended me... your even bringing it up. And if you are an American, you should be ashamed of yourself for putting the two together.
*You write bad checks.*
*People are dying in the war we are in.*
They don't have anything to do with one another. I have family in the military and they too would be extremely offended by your comments.
And as for ENRON! Don't even get me started... but AGAIN I don't think ENRON and what the families that worked for that company have to deal with has ANYTHING to do with your bouncing multiple checks.
Furthermore, I believe what "masujoviga" was trying to say was that you have no business spending money on frivolous things if you can't afford it. But on the same token it's not any of "masujoviga" business what you spend your money on, and she/he has no right to lecture you on it. (But she/he's right!)
And in closing, in all reality THIS is none of MY business... but after 7 pages though, I had to voice my opinion.
All The Best...
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masujoviga
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posted on February 7, 2002 09:04:27 PM new
I couldn't give two beans what weebitoffraud spends her money on... I was just replying to her "bad luck" reasoning... She justified writing BAD checks on a "bounced" check that was deposited in her account and then her husband failing to deposit money...that smells of "floating" checks...another illegal behavior...my point was, as you stated, if she is living on "borrowed" funds, why in the world is she buying anything on ebay...to make matters worse, she doesn;t have the money to cover it... Oh yes, she finally covered it, but how...waiting for the payments to come in from the stuff she "fradulently" purchased and then resold...you're right, after all, it is none of my business...but you have to admit it is SAD!
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DivaTs
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posted on February 7, 2002 09:14:04 PM new
Sad... you're right. It's very sad. Please don't think that I was trying to attack you in any way... I'm just stating my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions =)
All the best....
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masujoviga
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posted on February 7, 2002 09:29:08 PM new
Never thought it for a minute
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