posted on August 16, 2002 06:19:40 PM newI am ashamed of ALL of you...Unless you can disclaim her story, it VERY possibly could be true!
Very remotely possible, definitely not probably.
I'm just going on my personal experiences and actions. If my mother died, and then my dad died, and then my sister died I doubt a $25.00 purchase on eBay would be high enough on my list of priorities that I became pen pals with the seller.
When you look at the series of events following the winning bid it makes the curse of the "Hope Diamond" look tame in comparison.
I'm listening to my gut, and my gut tells me this is one of the most humorous stalls I've ever heard of.
posted on August 16, 2002 06:31:42 PM new
uaru
Gut feeling has lost a lot of wars..As far as email being a priority? Grief is a private journey and not always preceded by logic.. nuf said
kiddo2
[ edited by kiddo2 on Aug 16, 2002 06:33 PM ]
posted on August 16, 2002 06:43:45 PM new
I'm going out on a limb here, and say that I have to agree with kiddo2
Sad but so true in this life of ours, that when something like this happens, it can come in 3's.
I sure hope NOT, and am praying that it does not for me and my family.
I will say, I am very happy with 95% of my ebay buyers, as I emailed them with the death of my son,and also when my mother passed away and they were VERY UNDERSTANDUNG.I am sure a small % were thinking "" oh yea, right "" I say to them, "who cares, believe it !!!!"
alwaysbroke, you wrote,"""please keep her in your prayers"" """isn't it too late to pray??"""
I had several people say they would keep my son and our family in their prayers.It is NEVER too late for prayer !!!!
It could happen to anyone of us ???
No one is perfect and life sure isn't either.
Do you not have any compassion? Take a needed Vacation....
posted on August 16, 2002 07:18:46 PM new
Since the seller in this case has access to the presumably deceased customer's name and address, it would have been pretty simple to look up obits in the local FL paper on line (amazing what you can find on the web in a few seconds). Otherwise, why not simply leave dead dogs lie? Such effort and negative energy over a simple (or complex in this case) deadbeat ...
posted on August 16, 2002 08:19:37 PM new
I think some of you do not understand the exact sequence of events here. This bidders mom died and then her father died. Then SHE DIED!!! as she was run over by a drunk driver.
Its clear that for whatever reason she values her Ebay feedback so did not want any negs. The check was merely sent to look good.
She sent me a mail asking me not to cash it until 8/15. Then lo and behold on 8/15 I get a email from someone, asking me to cancel the order because the buyer was run over by a drunk driver. The odds of her being run over by a drunk driver the day before I was supposed to deposit her check are rather high to say the least.
In my initial email response to her at the beginning of this sad saga I never responded to issues about deaths in her family. So I suppose she took that to mean I bought her story, so she probably thought I would go ahead and believe the drunk drive story and return the check.
What completely amazes me are the few responses here who seem to think that she could be telling the truth. Maybe its gullable sellers like this that have let her get away with this garbage before.
[ edited by rent20 on Aug 16, 2002 08:21 PM ]
[ edited by rent20 on Aug 16, 2002 08:24 PM ]
posted on August 17, 2002 01:18:18 AM new
rent20
Which came first? The diehard jerk or the deadbeat? In this case, Which is which?
Until you can present this AW court with viable evidence and/or testimony rather than "gut" feeling and assumptions, THIS jury is still out...You are entitled to your opinion & your "gut" feeling but opinion & "gut" feeling is not fact but blasphemy..FACTS which are litterally at your keyboard fingertips should you choose to use them, to find out if the poor woman is dead or alive.... Again...you cashed the check, got your money...soooo who even cares about YOUR beef at this point, ..what is this string anyway, a ploy for attention or a rally for conviction support? Awwww, you are just makin' it all up, ain't you...I got a "gut" feelin..
kiddo2
posted on August 17, 2002 01:42:34 AM new
I believe a "floater" is when you deposit (for example) a paycheck, but it is not credited to your account for a several days. If you write checks against that amount, they will bounce.
This happened to a family member once, and their checks started bouncing. It never happened before so they weren't expecting it. I don't know if the company instructs the bank to float it so they can hang on to their $$ a little longer, or if the bank floats it. I forget. Anyway, my relative raised extreme cane with the right parties and put a stop to it.
posted on August 17, 2002 08:43:46 AM new
i had a bidder like this once. i checked their bidding and they hadnt bid since their "death" but i did check their feedback they had left for others and they had been leaving feedback for others.
posted on August 17, 2002 09:51:42 AM new
In my opinion, the seller has been neutral enough in his e-mails so that the transaction can still end on a friendly basis whether the family crisis proves true or not. He has also expressed a willingness to refund if the deaths are real.
Most businesses, creditors, and banks require proof of death from the grieving family. It is not cruel, it is just required.
My DH is required to bring a signed certificate from the funeral director when he leaves work to attend a funeral. This is because so many employees have abused the privilege. They just lie when they want a day off.
Personally, because I would have to drive 1-2 hours to cash a personal check at a branch other than my own bank, I would have returned the check, marked "void," and relisted the item. It is not worth it to me to waste the gasoline to cash a check. Also, I will not risk a bouncing check against my account. I think the going charge is $25 per bounce.
I wouldn't spend time playing detective by searching the internet for funeral notices, I'd rather spend the time earning money.
I would wait to leave FB until I could see if they made other purchases or left other FB. If in doubt, I'd leave no FB at all.
posted on August 17, 2002 09:55:04 AM new
I had a buyer with zero FB win my auction. She sent an e-mail saying a relative died and she had to leave town. I thought, uh oh, but sent a friendly "no problem" response.
Within a day, I rec'd an e-mail and payment from her mother who verified the story.
posted on August 17, 2002 10:31:09 AM new
I checked her bidding history for the last 30 days and no bids for anything. That doesn't surprise me as I truly believe she has some sort of financial crisis to warrant all this drama. I can believe it if one family member dies, if two family members die within a week I have to try very hard to swallow that.
Combine 2 family members dying with a note asking me to delay cashing the check until a certain date, and then on that EXACT date I get a email saying she was run over by a drunk driver and is dead then the only thing I can believe is thats she is very creative with lots of time on her hands.
I could use some help with ideas for creative feedback. I like the idea of mentioning in the feedback she was a real Ebay trooper by paying even though her mom and dad died the same week. However that could sound a bit snide, especially to someone reading her feedback who has no idea of the story behind the auction. I want to mention the dead relatives in the feedback so she won't be able to use that excuse in the future. Any ideas welcome.
On a final note, 90 days from now when she no longer will have a option to leave feedback, I intend to send her a link to this forum thread. That should make her day!
posted on August 17, 2002 02:04:21 PM new
rent20! (I could use some help with ideas for creative feedback. I like the idea
of mentioning in the feedback she was a real Ebay trooper by paying even
though her mom and dad died the same week. However that could sound a
bit snide, especially to someone reading her feedback who has no idea of
the story behind the auction. I want to mention the dead relatives in
the feedback so she won't be able to use that excuse in the future. Any
ideas welcome. ) E GAWD! Damn, you must be deaf as well as dumb...get a LIFE...WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR SNOTTY FB??? YOU WERE PAID! LEAVE IT ALONE...Sorry, in the politest manner possible...which ain't very at this point...I think you are an a#sH##e!
kiddo2
[ edited by kiddo2 on Aug 17, 2002 02:05 PM ]
posted on August 17, 2002 02:12:05 PM new
Well now...I just received one of these great excuses!
I know my wife had been in contact with you about the winning item. I'm sorry I have not been in contact sooner to let you know that she had a fatal heart attack on Monday August 5th. As you can guess, I will not be needing the item she won. Thank you for your understanding!
posted on August 17, 2002 07:36:23 PM new
<<E GAWD! Damn, you must be deaf as well as dumb...get a LIFE...WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR SNOTTY FB??? YOU WERE PAID! LEAVE IT ALONE>>
You sound like a real jerk, and more than likely you are in the habit of buying things and also stringing along sellers with outlandish excuses which is why you are taking the "dead" bidders side.
First of all this bidder had obviously no intention of actually paying me as she only sent the check to "look good" and hoped the story she was run over by a drunk driver would stop me from cashing it. I also think the check would have bounced back to my account as when I originally called the 800 number for Suntrust, the girl told me the funds were not available.
The check was written on Suntrust bank in Florida. I live up north, and my local bank up here is also Suntrust. When I gave the check to the teller to cash Friday morning, after running a scan on it she said the funds were not available, and I would have to deposit it for collection. I told her I didn't want to do that and asked her what the exact status of the account was. She was a bit unsure as she said the Florida banks used a different coding sytem than they did but from the best she could see it looked like there was a float in the account.
The teller said that the manager would have to approve cashing the check directly versus putting into my account. The manager knows me personally, so when he came over to the window after we exchanged greetings he barely looked at the check before telling the girl to go ahead and cash it as the float "issue" was not a problem. After all since the check was such a small amount it didn't raise any concerns in his mind.
I would bet my bottom dollar if I have been in Florida and presented the check for cashing at this bidders bank, it would have been refused. This gal is probably playing all kinds of creative games with floating checks and the like, so I would be surprised if there is much real money in her account.
She probably thought it was a safe bet to mail me the check, as even if I was "heartless" and deposited it, the check wouldn't clear. The reason for the check coming back would be something to the effect of "un-collected funds" or whatever, so from a legal point of view that wouldn't look too bad for her.
I am sure this dead gal will get a shock when she sees not only did I put the check in for collection, it actually cleared her bank. If the funds aren't in her account to cover it, Suntrust will just put a negative debit on the account along with a nice fat service fee.
Now for a final note to those on here who calling me all sorts of names for not giving this gal the benefit of the doubt, I went ahead today and got the final proof...at least for me. I have her name and address, but no phone number. I was able to locate her phone number from 411. I wanted to call and ask for her by name, but I thought she might have caller ID so I blocked my number and called her. Why was I not surprised that she had a caller ID block on her line which did not let her line accept annonymous blocked calls.
I had the feeling that if I called from my area code, she would notice it and when I called, I would be informed of the cemetary location of the deceased. This gal lives in Tampa, and I also have a friend who lives in Tampa. I told my friend this sad story, and he agreed to call her. My thinking was that since my friends phone number would appear on the caller ID as a local number, our girl would pick it up thinking it was someone she knew locally.
According to my friend the phone was picked up on the second ring. A older female informed my friend that our gal was out shopping and would be back later. The older female was rather nosy and curious and asked my friend what the call was about. My friend declined to answer directly saying he was just a friend and the call was "personal" in nature. The older female got kind of annonyed at that response and said "I am her mother so any business of hers is my business too".
Could this be the dead mother come back to life? This gets more and more scary as time goes by. Stay tuned boys and girls.
[ edited by rent20 on Aug 17, 2002 07:59 PM ]
posted on August 17, 2002 07:45:04 PM new
Boo-Yah to the naysayers! Great work, Detective Rent20. You handled the situation well from start to finish, in my opinion. This buyer is as irresponsible as they get. Glad you got your money---you earned it. Please don't refund it for any reason.
posted on August 17, 2002 08:05:00 PM new
<<Boo-Yah to the naysayers! Great work, Detective Rent20. You handled the situation well from start to finish, in my opinion. This buyer is as irresponsible as they get.>>
Yes this buyer is completely irresponsible especially to use death as a excuse. Whats even more amazing to me is than this idiot bidder are the nay-sayers who want to take her side. Surely no-one could be that stupid to believe 2 deaths capped off by the bidders own death in a few short weeks.
These nay-sayers must be bored trolls as they couldn't possibly believe her lame excuses.
[ edited by rent20 on Aug 17, 2002 08:06 PM ]
posted on August 17, 2002 10:50:35 PM new
Easy solution:
1) Tear up the check.
2) Don't ship.
3) Leave negative feedback.
If she is dead, then the neg. won't hurt, and no point shipping stuff to the dead.
If she is not dead, she probably won't leave feedback anyway. If she does, just write, (in response): "Bidder claimed she and her parents died. Deadbeat."
posted on August 17, 2002 11:08:47 PM new
OR,,,,,EVEN BETTER! READ THE ENTIRE B.S. LINE ON AUCTIONWATCH THE MOST INFORMATIVE SITE ON THE WEB. HERE IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH......SPELLED OUT. HAHAHAHA. THAT SHOULD SHAME THE "H" OUT OF THE "DEAD" BEAT. GOOD FOR YOU. THAT KIND OF SCUM SHOULD BE RID OF.
I WRITE WHIF A KRAYON, I AM ALMOST 5.
posted on August 17, 2002 11:10:48 PM new
Gosh I can relate to you 100%. I just got this real wacko on my back, too. I just can't seem to shed this woman and she just won't send the money. She says she has, but funny it never gets here. She now has turned in a negative complaint on me to SquareTrade stating that I have tried to cancel our contract, blah, blah, blah. I turned around and turned one in on her. I blocked that woman from ever bidding on my auctions again. If she does ever send the money, I'll send the item. Got 2 more deadbeats sitting in front of me, too. Never have heard from them. Probably just as well. Gads, it must be that time of month!!!!!
posted on August 18, 2002 12:19:04 AM new
>The older female got kind of annonyed at that response and said "I am her mother so
>any business of hers is my business too".
Ah, the reports of Mom's death seem to have been greatly exaggerated. Whad'ya wanna bet that Mom is so interested in her 'business' because the bidder is underaged?
posted on August 18, 2002 06:07:45 AM new
KAREN,,,,,HENCE,,KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER. THESE DAYS SEEMS ALL TEENS ARE KILLED BY THE INFAMOUS DRUNKEN DRIVER. YOU HIT THAT ONE RIGHT ON THE HEAD I DO BELIEVE. UNDERAGED WITH A VERY VIVID IMAGINATION TOO. CAN YOU IMAGINE HER DESCRIPTIONS WHEN SHE BECOMES A SELLER. HAHAHAHAHAHA. ALL OF HER "ITEMS" ARE LOST TREASURES OF THE DEARLY DEPARTED KILLED BY THE DRUNKEN DRIVER. SHE WILL PROBABLY STATE THAT SOME OF THE SALES WILL GO TO MADD.
I WRITE WHIF A KRAYON, I AM ALMOST 5.
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