micmic66
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posted on October 24, 2002 05:08:28 AM new
Looks as if the person/poeple responsible for killing 10 poeple in the DC area are in police custody. What do you think should happen to these nice guys who shot a child and threatened to shoot more??
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mlecher
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posted on October 24, 2002 05:43:14 AM new
They should be released without needing to post any bail while awaiting trial.......In the Rockland park.......At midnight......have it publicly announced then when and where of their release.......and the police go home.
I live in my own little world, but it is Okay...They know me here.
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capolady
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posted on October 24, 2002 08:04:14 AM new
Excellent idea!!!
I'll bring the floodlights.
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ahc3
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posted on October 24, 2002 10:17:31 PM new
Unfortunately, we (the taxpayers) will foot a huge legal bill, because we will need to pay for them to have a huge legal team. It's only fair. Ultimately, they will be convicted, and given the death penalty - Which may be enforced around the time that I am set to collect social security in 30 years, which may not even be there anyway because we are too busy paying for the rights of murderers. Of course, we will foot the bill for all the legal appeals as well.
Don't you love the legal system? There's something to be said for the Russian system where after the verdict, they took you outside and shot you in the head.
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throughhiker
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posted on October 25, 2002 02:28:23 PM new
I think they should be placed in a small cell with a large screen TV. On the TV is 16 (There may be more) one hour programs each featureing the lives of the people they shot, with interviews of the reletives expressing their deep loss. They would play 24 hours a day non stop, they can't change the channel, they can't turn it off. it will be with them till they die.
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sn0bbish
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posted on October 25, 2002 02:42:07 PM new
and you think it would even affect them?
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bear1949
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posted on October 26, 2002 02:13:58 PM new
They need to be given a fair trial, found guilty (no other option) & immediately taken outside & shot....
And I'll donate the ammo
[ edited by bear1949 on Oct 26, 2002 03:11 PM ]
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lowprofile
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posted on October 26, 2002 02:20:10 PM new
They should run an Auction on Ebay for the chance to payback these guys anyway you see fit...with the proceeds going to the Families of ones that were killed
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sanmar
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posted on October 26, 2002 02:36:46 PM new
ahc3; We have the best legal system in the world & don't you forget it. We have the best system of goverment in the world, why else do all of these people from the Communist bloc countries want to come over here? You would sing a different tune if you were in deep dodo. I know it seems like a waste of time, money & talent to defend these two, but because we will is what makes this the great nation we are.
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classicrock000
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posted on October 26, 2002 02:46:18 PM new
in the Rockland Park--may I assume this is
not an aumusement park?
when I first saw the heading of this message
"Hang'em High"-thought micmic was talking about some deadbeater on ebay
[ edited by classicrock000 on Oct 26, 2002 02:48 PM ]
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ahc3
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posted on October 26, 2002 04:27:56 PM new
I am all in favor of providing them a lawyer as our system is supposed to do, but I don't feel we need to provide them a legal team, which is what our legal system has degenerated into. Letting criminals free because of technicalities, etc. I think we have a great system, we just need to keep it great, and that means fix the problems, and place a bigger emphasis on the victims instead of the criminal. I hope those two rot in hell, and I think I will get my wish.
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sparkz
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posted on October 26, 2002 05:22:49 PM new
I hope Alabama gets first crack at prosecuting them, with Virginia next. Both states have a law that makes the 17 year old eligible for the death penalty. And both states have declared their intentions of trying this as a capital case. In Maryland and D.C., the 17 year old would be treated as a juvenile offender.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 26, 2002 05:38:45 PM new
"We have the best legal system in the world & don't you forget it."
Yea just ask O.J.
But those who got sentenced to death row athough being incorrectly convicted wouldn't agree. Quite a few have had their cases reversed and are now free, but they should have been tried correctly the first time.
We have juries made up of people who will quickly agree to a guilty charge just so they can get home and watch some tv. It's nice that those arrested have some rights, but that's where "the best legal system" ends.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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yellowstone
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posted on October 26, 2002 08:50:34 PM new
I think they should spend the rest of their lives in prison in protective custody.
Let me explain what protective custody means. Protective custody means that they are each in a separate 5 foot by 8 foot cell, or smaller with the only contact that they have with anyone is when their meals are brought to them and slid through a small 3 inch by 12 inch door. They get 1 hour a day of yard time by themselves in a walled in yard with the top opened up to daylight but covered by bars. When they need to shower a separate shower unit is rolled to their cell door and then their cell door is opened.
Protective custody is usually reserved for persons who's lives would be in danger if they were in general population. Like snitches, child murderers, rapists, pedofiles(sp) or anyone that has comitted a crime that is particularly disgusting. Their food is usually spit in before it is brought to them and nobody wants to have anything to do with them.
Life in protective custody after a few years has got to be pure hell. After a few years you go mad and you know why you are there.
Killing them would be too easy and it would take away the pain that years of total isolation would give them.
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coralreef
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posted on October 26, 2002 08:58:33 PM new
I agree yellowstone. Let them "rot" in prison. The death penalty is not harsh enough. Don't let them "do anything", just keep them locked away with saliva filled food and no human contact.
coral
edited to add........Once is a mistake 8 or 9 or 10 times or however many people they killed/wounded is NOT a mistake.
[ edited by coralreef on Oct 26, 2002 10:20 PM ]
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:22:11 PM new
Should a person be treated like dirt just because they made a mistake? Should a person be thrown into a small cell and treated with no humanity or dignity just because they don't fit into society well?
Society knows there are people who can't fit in well, and we know many make serious mistakes and will continue to make those mistakes for various reasons. How humane are we to decide we are superior and don't offer them a place to live as they see fit, rather criminalize them and dehumanize them.
We have decides we want a civilized society and will remove anyone who doesn't act civilized. That may be fair, but why a small cell? Why spit in their food? Why such unhuman living conditions?
They should not have to pay for their "crimes," but they should be removed from society in a dignified manner.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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ohmslucy
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:26:00 PM new
Geez... Quickdraw...
A mistake? A MISTAKE??? Please, spare me... They killed several people, seemingly just for sport.
These animals should be shot. No, that's too good for them.
The prison population will take care of them.
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stonecold613
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:31:07 PM new
Quickdraw,
You must have been cut from the same cloth as echowood87 and fluffythewondercat. Bleeding heart liberals.
I say, send those three right now, to Iraq with riffles to fight a way against Saddam.
The only hitch is to give them blank bullets. That should teach their XXXXXX.
[ edited by stonecold613 on Oct 27, 2002 10:30 AM ]
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:31:25 PM new
If it wasn't a mistake, why do we let "criminals" out of jail? We do let some murders out because we feel they have learned from their mistake, right? Otherwise, what's the point of letting them out?
It is a mistake what they did. There's a lot of what we do in life that seems like the right thing to do, and later realize it was a mistake. They may kill because it felt like it was the right thing to do. Believe me, we are not high and almghty just because we follow society rules.
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:35:06 PM new
You don't have to be a liberal to be moral.
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yellowstone
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:40:23 PM new
Why spit in their food? Why such unhuman living conditions?
The key word here is "unhuman" and what they did was unhuman
The fact remains that there are prison facilities in our country that provide the living conditions that I described and they do it for a reason. The reason is punishment.
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ohmslucy
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:47:35 PM new
Well put Yellowstone. Nothing more need be said.
Lucy
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 26, 2002 09:47:39 PM new
What they did was uncivilized. If mere killing was inhumane, why do we allow wars? Even wars have civilized rules.
Humans are animals, we are not above nature.
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micmic66
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posted on October 27, 2002 03:17:30 AM new
quickdraw29,
Would your response be the same as it is now if (god forbid) you wife, daughter, son or husband was one of the poeple pumping gas one minute and laying on the blacktop with half thier skull missing the next?
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sanmar
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posted on October 27, 2002 09:25:12 AM new
yellowstone,I like your idea. It would be hard to appeal this sentence, like it would a death penalty. I think that one state has now adopted a law that limits them to 3 appeals. It may be Texas, I'm not sure. Anyway, this "protective custody" idea works for me.
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stonecold613
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posted on October 27, 2002 10:35:54 AM new
quickdraw,
This is why no one wishes to be entitled to your opinion.
It is liberals like yourself that put killers like this back on the streets to kill again. I say, kill off all killers and drug dealers.
And everyone is entitled to that opinion.
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 27, 2002 10:40:32 AM new
"Would your response be the same as it is now if (god forbid) you wife, daughter, son or husband was one of the poeple pumping gas one minute and laying on the blacktop with half thier skull missing the next?"
Would my response under high emotional stress be the smae when I am calm and rational? No, but I wouldn't want our laws based on irrationalty.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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koto1
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posted on October 27, 2002 10:40:50 AM new
I'd say give them a fair trial, as required and guaranteed by our Constitution. Then, if found guilty without doubt, eliminate them like the waste that they are.
Why should our tax $$ go to house and feed these stains on society, instead of more worthy ventures such as feeding and clothing the homeless, or educating our kids?
"Who's tending the bar?  Sniping works up a thirst"
[ edited by koto1 on Oct 27, 2002 10:41 AM ]
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 27, 2002 10:47:47 AM new
"This is why no one wishes to be entitled to your opinion.
It is liberals like yourself that put killers like this back on the streets to kill again. I say, kill off all killers and drug dealers."
No one should be entitled to my opinion, are you anti-america, pro dictator? In a free country we are all entitled to each other opinions whether you chosse to listen to them or not. I can tell you one thing, it's better to be a liberal than a Russian idelaist such as you.
Secondly, I am not a liberal, and I don't want killers back on the streets unless they have changed their behavior. I want killers seperated from society so we can have a civilized society, but they should not be thrown in an inhumane jail cell.
Why are you a hypocrite? You are for or against inhumane treatment, you can't be against it sometimes.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 27, 2002 10:54:16 AM new
"Why should our tax $$ go to house and feed these stains on society."
Two irrational acts don't make a right. We house and feed these killers because it is our choice to seperate the uncilvilized from the civilized. If murder was legal then I'd say go ahead and terminate their life early, but murder is illegal so we must pay to have them seperated from us.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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