Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 04:46:14 AM new
Request from Australia to sell a product on Ebay. He wants UPS. Hmmm, it's a sell, but I've never shipped to Australia. Comments and guidance?
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on March 29, 2004 05:22:26 AM new
Liana,
Mosy on over to www.ups.com - it's pretty intuitive.
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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stopwhining
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posted on March 29, 2004 05:36:23 AM new
the aussie customs office is just as bad as canadian customs office,i believe anything over 50 dollars is slapped a customs duty fee.
with private shipper,if he refuses shipment,then it will be returned to you and you will pay the return shipping fee.
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Benjamin Franklin
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 05:49:49 AM new
My item is a BIN for $25. If He's bidding, I will not sell it.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:10:17 AM new
Thanks, SalGal -- treat them poorly and then send them my way. I'd use www.AuctionPayments.com - and send to him the same as I send to every other country.
You might want to note your shipping restrictions in your TOS - or not.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:10:22 AM new
Damn slow Internet response - sorry for the duplicate post.
[ edited by TheFamilyBiz on Mar 29, 2004 06:11 AM ]
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stopwhining
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:14:22 AM new
is it bulky,heavy??
usps global priority envelope can hold up to 4 lbs and gets there faster than first class mail,good value if the item fits.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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agate18
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:19:04 AM new
IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE DONT OR WONT OR CANT SHIP OUTSIDE OF THE USA. IT IS NO HARDER THEN SHIPPING TO THE USA FROM THE USA. YOU MAY HAVE TO FILL OUT A DECLARATION AS TO WHAT IS IN THE PARCEL. WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME WHEN WE SHIP TO THE USA. NO BIG DEAL. AND NO COMEBACK AT ALL FROM AUST CUSTOMS.
YES CUSTOMS CAN BE A PROBLEM FOR THE AUSSIE CUSTOMER. BUT IF YOU FOLLOW A COUPLE OF SIMPLE RULES, YOU CAN MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR YOUR CUSTOMER. NEVER VALUE THE PARCEL OVER $240.AUS. AS THIS TENDS TO RED LINE A PARCEL FOR AUTOMATIC ATTENTION FOR CUSTOMS. THIS WILL COST YOUR CUSTOMER 10% IMMEDIATELY. BEFORE DELIVERY.
DONT EVER WRITE ON THE PARCEL THE CORRECT CONTENTS IF IT IS VALUABLES. LIKE JEWELLERY OR PRECIOUS GEMS OR GOLD COINS ETC. PUT ON IT SPECIMENS OR SAMPLES. GIFT ONLY. NEVER SHIP TO A COMPANY OR JEWELLERY SHOP. IT IS ALWAYS BEST NOT TO ATTRACT ATTENTION TO THIEVES IN THE POSTAL SYSTEM. USE A PERSONS PRIVATE NAME AND IF POSSIBLE ADDRESS.
I DO THIS WHEN I SEND PARCELS TO AMERICA. SAVES HEAPS OF PROBLEMS. I ACTUALLY SEND ABOUT 100 TO 200 PARCELS TO THE USA A MONTH. AND I RECEIVE ABOUT 20 PARCELS A MONTH FROM AMERICA. IF THE GOODS ARE NOT TOO BIG I USUALLY SHIP BY GLOBAL PRIOROTY MAIL MAIL. THRU YOUR POSTAL SYSTEM IN THE USA. IT IS FAST AND SEEMS TO BE SAFER THEN NORMAL MAIL.
A PARCEL THAT WEIGHS ABOUT 2 POUNDS WILL COST AROUND $10.US. YOU WILL HAVE TO CHECK THIS OUT YOURSELF. IF THE CUSTOMER WANTS A TRACKING SYSTEM ON THE PARCEL THEN TRY TO DO SO. I BELIEVE IT IS THE SAME AS YOU DO IN AMERICA.
SOME AUSTRALIANS THINK LIKE SOME AMERICANS. THEY ALL THINK IT IS A SCARY THING TO SHIP OVERSEAS TO ANOTHER COUNTRY. IT IS NOT.
I HAVE BEEN SELLING TO THE USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES THRU EBAY AUCTION FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS, AND HAVE SENT OVER 10,000 PARCELS IN THAT TIME. MOST HAVE GONE SMOOTHLY.
MY MOTTO IS TO TREAT MY CUSTOMERS THE WAY I WANT TO BE TREATED BY THEM.
GOOD LUCK.
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:19:26 AM new
TOS and shipping = only in the U.S.
I emailed him and asked would he pay for the postage & would he buy it now? I won't sell on a bid.
It's software, very light, less than 1 lb. I'll probably sell it and take your suggestion to ship global priority. USPS = $4.00 w/o confirmation.
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Another question: At the ebay site, I have the shipping estimated at $2.85 (
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3668821223&category=3786&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1 )
Should I change the shipping cost or wait see what the Aussie wants?
[ edited by Salgal48 on Mar 29, 2004 06:38 AM ]
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sarniaflower
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:25:28 AM new
Good Morning
USPS is the way to go it is reasonable and quick. Never ever use USP for international
www.usps.com
I use the flat rate small and large envelopes they ship quickly and reasonable
stopwhining
It is not the duty or tax that is the killer it is the brokerage fee that UPS extorts from the purchaser.
UPS does NOT disclose the fee to the sender which it should be. The purchaser then has there item held for ransom by UPS unless they pay their extortion fee. I have had UPS lie to me that the fees were indeed duty and taxes but after seeing the package I discovered the fees were brokerage fees. There was NO duty or taxes only broker fees
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fenix03
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:52:31 AM new
Sal - you can send it parcel post for less than the 2.85 you have listed for shipping, will arrive the Australia in just about a week and with its weight, it's not going to require a customs declaration.
Agate - oooh, just wait until everyone wakes up and sees that you said mark as a gift.... You are going to see at least half a dozen people come in insisting that they will not lie on he customs for because the Australian customs police may come knocking on their door and forbid them to ever mail things to your country again.... Lets watch 
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 06:56:13 AM new
In contact direct with Aussie. here's my concern. Ebay sent his question to me w/ his email, which means we can do the deal off-ebay???? huh????
I'll go to the post office and get an estimate today.
Thanks all.
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aintrichyet
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posted on March 29, 2004 07:04:40 AM new
Sal: you sure are going to a lot of trouble for 25 bucks.
IMHO
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 07:10:02 AM new
Aintrich: Well, I didn't originally want to sell to Australia, was hoping an American would buy and I'd just ship it out. But if this is my only sale, I'll take it.
The product prices for approx $25 on Ebay and elsewhere, so I'm not going to overprice. It's an item I don't use anyway.
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agate18
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posted on March 29, 2004 07:11:05 AM new
fenix03 ARE YOU A SELLER ON EBAY ? IF SO WHAT IS YOUR USER NAME THERE . OR YOU A TALKER ON VENDIO ALONE.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 29, 2004 07:12:06 AM new
from what i understand,these private shippers have in house customs brokers located close to us customs offices to expedite clearance.
all packages arriving from foreign countries come to these customs brokers first,if there is no customs code assigned,they will do their best to assign an appropriate code.
sometimes they will call the importer for the best way to declare the item.
not all packages get slapped with us customs duty,but you still have to pay a fee for the work done by the customs broker and the effort for bringing the package to customs and retrieving the package from customs office.
customs brokers do not work for free,their landlord do not offer office space and utilities for free.
for small packages,it is cheaper to go thru usps,it is only 5 dollars for handling fee.
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Benjamin Franklin
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 29, 2004 07:56:47 AM new
OOOH ANOTHER CAPS LOCK MORON POSTING...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
http://www.nogaymarriage.com/
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max40
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posted on March 29, 2004 08:02:53 AM new
He has to shout, it's a long way from Oz.
Life is not a dress rehearsal
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fenix03
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posted on March 29, 2004 08:11:55 AM new
Agate - I am a seller on ebay who does at least 50% (usually more) of their volume in international sales.
(BTW - When I have to fill out a customs form I usually mark as Sample cause once they their first order I know they will be coming back for more )
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by fenix03 on Mar 29, 2004 08:18 AM ]
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Libra63
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posted on March 29, 2004 09:07:06 AM new
I sell internationally all the time and include a customs form on each and every package marked as Merchandise. The reason it is merchandise not gift, not sample. If they want you to mark those then don't sell. This ia a government form and you can't lie on them. I doubt if customs will ever knock on your door but I am not going to be the first to know. We are doing a business. I send most all my packages to anywhere by Air Letter Post. This is the way I do my business.
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jvj24601
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posted on March 29, 2004 10:46:31 AM new
Though this doesn't deal directly with the "gift" or "actual value" debate. It does deal with the HORRORS of customs...
I was working for a large retailer back in the mid 1990's exporting merchandise for a large retailer who was expanding into Mexico. A buyer ordered some leather purses made in China for the Mexico Stores. The buyer featured them in an ad that broke in the local newspapers. Turns out that Mexcio -- at that point in time, anyway -- had huge tarrifs on leather goods made in China. Since we already had them featured in the ad, they had to go. I can't remember the exact numbers, but I believe it ended up costing the company ten times retail just to get the purses into the stores. OUCH!
On another occassion I was be-bopping along, processing jewelry, entering the country of origin on each item, putting the tags on each piece, when I accidentally entered the wrong country of origin on several pieces. It was a ring that I had entered as being made in Isreal, when in fact it was made in Taiwan -- I believe. I didn't catch the mistake, but Mexican customs officials did. Anyway, that was a fine -- I wish I could remember the amount, but I think it was around $1,000.00 per ring. I think there were maybe ten rings going to each store. YIKES!! After that incident, customs started "red lighting" each box we sent through. What a nightmare!
Most of this is probably irrelevant to most ebay sellers. But if one is doing a lot of business internationally, these things are worth considering. The company that I worked for was/is a large company with many boxes (actually truckloads -- but the stuff from my dept wasn't sent that way) of merchandise going to the same addresses (stores). Our stuff was easy to spot. AND it makes sense that customs would pick on -- uhummm, I mean, "would most carefully scrutinize" -- those with the largest pockets.
Just some food for thought. The financial reprecussions of false statements on customs documents can be rather serious. I don't know if they'd say "you can never ship to our country again", it seems more likely that the customs agents would just fine you, and then "flag" your return address, so that they could inspect every package and make more money off of the fines.
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 12:15:24 PM new
US Postage Airmail = approx 6.50
Fedex = $50 --- WOW!
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 12:15:38 PM new
US Postage Airmail = approx 6.50
Fedex = $50 --- WOW!
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stopwhining
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posted on March 29, 2004 12:19:38 PM new
fed exp intl is expensive but cant be that expensive for a piece of software,you must have hit the wrong button.
why dont you call them and find out??
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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kiara
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posted on March 29, 2004 12:34:25 PM new
Edited because sometimes it's not worth the energy trying to explain things to stopwhining. 
[ edited by kiara on Mar 29, 2004 08:00 PM ]
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Libra63
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posted on March 29, 2004 12:43:05 PM new
I have sold to australian bidders. I got into a conversation with one and so I asked about customs. She said she has never had to pay customs but then again I think she only buys jewelry.
I guess if we want to be professional then we should abide by the rules but then again it takes time to fill out the forms and I am sure some people don't want to do that. I do have to admit my PO requires me to fill out custom forms an every package I send out of town. There is no weight limit with him. I don't really think it makes any difference to him whether a gift or merchandise but he does know I sell on ebay and thats requires me checking the merchandise box.
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fenix03
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posted on March 29, 2004 12:53:48 PM new
Stop - before you tell someone they did something wrong - you might want to check for yourself. Last time I spoke with Fed-ex about a package that was just going to Cancun they wanted $40 and it weighed less than a cd multi pack. $50 from them sounds about right.
Sal - I think that is why yo will find that most people USPS to ship overseas.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by fenix03 on Mar 29, 2004 12:54 PM ]
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JACKSWEBB
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posted on March 29, 2004 01:26:57 PM new
AGATE18, YOU POST ANY OLE WAY YOU WANT IF "SOME" HERE WISH TO INSULT YOU BY REFERRING WITH "MORON" JUST TELL THEM TO PLACE YOU ON "IGNORE".
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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Salgal48
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posted on March 29, 2004 01:35:39 PM new
I took the pkg to Fedex direct and that's what they quoted me.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 29, 2004 02:37:51 PM new
samiaflower et al-
i would not call broker fee EXTORTION.
Salga,
does that 50 dollars include aussie customs??
I know with UPS intl,shipper can opt to prepay customs to expedite customs clearance.
say i have ordered a few pieces of jade to be used as jewelry,instead of declaring them as jewelry,i can ask my supplier to declare them as stone carving and have the shipper precalculate the us customs fee for stone carving (which is a lot less than jewelry)and include it in my shipping fee.
when the item arrives in the states,the shipper will turn that amount over to us customs office .
there is not enough manpower in customs office to look at every package coming thru.
not that i am doing anything against the law,but unmounted jade carving can be used in jewelry or can be used as decorative art.
it is how well you know how us customs classify the goods.
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Benjamin Franklin
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