petercards
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posted on April 22, 2004 11:02:36 PM new
US dollar money order from Canadian Bank are drawm on US banks.
The problem is most tellers at US banks do not know that.
Camadian Banks own US banks.
TD Canada Trust Bank in Canada owns a US bank called TD Waterhouse bank TD Waterhouse brokerage.
The Orlanda Majic play at the TD Waterhouse Center.
Funny thing is Tracy McGrady just had to leave Toronto but plays in an area named after a bank that started in Toronto.
TD stands for Toronto Dominion.
These banks are ripping their customers since these money order are processed in the regular money order system simce fund are drawn on US banks.
Also money orders from the Canadian Post office are cashed FREE at any USPS location.
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stopwhining
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posted on April 23, 2004 05:52:56 AM new
agitprop-
your link is not working,can you post the URL.
fenix-
do you ever figure what kind of exchange rate bank of america give you for your foreign exchange deposit??
fluffy,
your canadian buyer did the best he can,went to a bank and bot an intl money order.
when it comes to electronic clearance ,what counts are the series of numbers printed on the bottom of the check in magnetic ink.
if you have a major money centre bank nearby,ask to speak to someone in intl banking and ask him/her to take a closer look,esp why is chase bank printed on the check and what the codes on the bottom mean.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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tfs13
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posted on April 23, 2004 07:33:01 AM new
I have no problem selling to international customers as long as they read my TOS. I do get frustrated when they can't pay PayPal and then say "oh, no PayPal, well please cancel this order"! This just happened...again.
Is it ok to reply with sections of the ebay user agreement about how your bid is a binding contract yadda yadda yadda?
Seth
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stopwhining
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posted on April 23, 2004 07:52:24 AM new
do you have the paypal logo on your item page??
tell them you wont cancel the order,ebay does say bidding is a contract.so if they dont pay,you will file non payment alert,final value fee and neg them.
they can always go to their post office and get you a us $ money order or use bidpay.com
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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tfs13
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posted on April 23, 2004 08:00:31 AM new
Yes, the logo is there. Ebay could use a few extra options on that though.
As far as my template, right under my description area, I have payment section with a PayPal logo and this right above it "PayPal is only accepted for domestic US orders only. See Terms of Service for more details".
I understand that it can be confusing with ebay putting the logo at the bottom under "Payment methods accepted". I think I have to since I am part of the PayPal preferred program.
Seth
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stopwhining
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posted on April 23, 2004 08:18:41 AM new
i have a few cases where after i asked them not to use paypal but go with bidpay,they just ignore me and pay with paypal.
so far no problem,what i take into consideration is how much and who is the bidder.
i look at their feedback and see what they bid on and if they are still bidding/
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 23, 2004 09:59:52 AM new
Stop, I realize that each day you set new records for cranial density on Vendio boards, but...
your canadian buyer did the best he can
I don't allow Canadian buyers. How can you participate in this thread and not know this?
The best a Canadian buyer can do is to click on that Back arrow and get his sorry tochis to some auction that welcomes Canadians.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 23, 2004 10:03:28 AM new
"Canadian malice..." ?
Yep.
While some TOS violations can be chalked up to utter stupidity, I have also been hit by the Canadians-on-a-crusade.
On other words, these are people who deliberately bid on US-only auctions with the intent of ruining them.
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stopwhining
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posted on April 23, 2004 10:42:04 AM new
fluffy you moron,
your second cup of coffee will not be on me.
if you dont want canadian to bid on your items,then dont sell on ebay,get your own website and block all canadian IP addresses.
i see what your problem is,#*!@ get #*!@ treatment,the banks did the right thing.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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tomwiii
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:27:03 PM new
For once, I actually agree with Scruffy!
1) She has the right to include or EXCLUDE any countries from her auctions as she sees fit!
2) And she is correct in her opinion about about CANADIAN bidders. I LOVE my ENGLISH & my JAPANESE and (YIKES!) even my FRENCH bidders, but whenever I get a Canadian, there's ALWAYS a hassle!
Either they demand DISHONESTY on CUSTOMS FORMS or they try to SCAM ya by sneaking in US shipping fees when they KNOW they ain't be da same 
If I could, I'd sell to everywhere EXCEPT for CANADA!
700
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stopwhining
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:34:47 PM new
tom,
the thread is not about fluffy policy of not selling to canadian.'
she has gone past that ,the canadian has won 8 auctions and know where to send the payment to.
i bet if the money order can be cashed with no 30 dollars fee,she would ship as fast as she can and not come to this board and #*!@ .
i have a canadian bank money order with me for a few days now,i am not bitching as i know he is in canada and i allow him to bid and i instruct him where to send payment to.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 23, 2004 12:41:15 PM new
Tom,
I have noticed that you are omitting the political sig lines in threads where I have posted. Your thoughtfulness is much appreciated. Thank you.
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bootclan
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:08:32 PM new
I rarely post on this board but am a constant reader. I have over 6000 successful transactions on Ebay and I want to go on record as saying this:
Selling To Canadians Is One Big Nightmare!!
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:11:36 PM new
fenix: There's a bit of fresh meat in your in-box. (And no, it's not a recently-deceased rodent.)
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bunnicula
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:20:23 PM new
I wonder why some sellers have so much trouble? I have always sold internationally,and many of those sales are to Canadians. Never an ounce of trouble.
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:27:07 PM new
Maybe because you want to sell internationally and are set up for it?
(Um, isn't that kind of obvious?)
Or...
There are sellers who have problems with Alaskan, Hawaiian or Puerto Rican bidders. (Let's not even mention Guam.) I don't; I do fine with all those because my items are very small and can go first class. But those sellers have legitimate gripes.
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bunnicula
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:32:22 PM new
What "set up for it"?!? All I do is
a) look up the shipping rate for whatever country on usps.com & let the buyer know.
b) fill out customs form & stick it on front of package.
That's it. Bank of America doesn't charge me for money orders made out in US dollars, so I just deposits them. Voila.
Oh, yeah, forgot: I also put "Foreign bidders please contact me for shipping rates to your country" in all my auctions. But I only had to type that once--I have templates set up that I plug new information into whenever I put up another auction.
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:44:11 PM new
Which is three things more than I have to do.
No, thanks.
You don't do much volume, I guess. If I had to notify every buyer in personal email, I wouldn't make enough money to pay the mortgage, much less subsidize the rest of the extravagant Casa Fluffy lifestyle.
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tomwiii
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posted on April 23, 2004 01:46:25 PM new
Bunni:
I can only go by my experience, which has been DELIGHTFUL with every country EXCEPT for CANADA -- 99% of the CANADIAN bidders I've had cause grief with either the CUSTOMS FORMS or the SHIPPING or PAYPAL!
Even though it states in my auctions that:
1) I do NOT lie on CUSTOMS FORMS +
2) I do NOT accept PayPal from non-USA bidders +
3) INTERNATIONAL shipping is via AIRMAIL only...
Everytime I get a CANADIAN bidder, I end up with:
"Whaddy mean ya donna take PayPal, everybody else does!"
/or/
"Whaddya mean it costs $9.99 to CANADA?? I can ship to me inbred cousin in MoosePoop, Alberta for $1!"
/or/
"Please mark this as a GIFT so I can evade my province's taxes!"
NO OTHER bidders cause me ANY kaka other than the CANADIANS!
707
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deur1
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posted on April 23, 2004 02:02:21 PM new
TO Tomwilli
I am going NUTZ trying to figure the riddle. I am getting curiouser and curiouser about the number at the end of your post. I pert near always miss the obvious ....
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stopwhining
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posted on April 23, 2004 02:30:07 PM new
is that james bond ,that special agent 707.
it is not just the canadians,also australian and british who want their package labeled as gift.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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niel35
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posted on April 23, 2004 02:46:49 PM new
I have sold to lots of Canadians and no problem at all. Maybe because I are one.
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BlueGriffinStudio
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posted on April 23, 2004 03:01:04 PM new
This is for Fluffy - If someone sends you a non-negotiable money order, isn't that the same as a non-paying bidder? You said you were out you Ebay fees, but can't you file a non-paying bidder report and have your fees refunded?
I'm not Canadian, but my father was and so were all my mother's family for over 300 years. I've bought several items from Canadian sellers, but as yet have not sold anything to anyone in Canada. I sent a small package (bubble envelope) off to England today and discovered that the only way to get a Delivery Confirmation on an uninsured Inernational Package is to send it Registered Mail (Very expensive). Instead I got a Confirmation of Mailing (for my records) showing the package was mailed. I would prefer NOT to sell Internationally, but will accept International bids for small items that are NOT breakable that can be sent First Class Air Mail. I REQUIRE Pay Pal payments in US dollars for any International buyers.
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tomwiii
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posted on April 23, 2004 03:50:44 PM new
"I REQUIRE Pay Pal payments in US dollars for any International buyers."
Then, when they tell PayPal that they received NOTHING, PayPal will yank the moola out of yer account & you will have NO recourse -- even if ya had a video of them accepting the Package from Tony Blair with the Queen's Guards sworn testimony...ye be SCREWED!
707
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samkat6
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posted on April 23, 2004 04:21:27 PM new
The real problem is that your banks are primative and have a center of the universe attitude. I can cash any check m/o etc. from any part of the world without any additional costs and it takes about 4 days to clear. Eh!
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deur1
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posted on April 23, 2004 04:43:43 PM new
The banks in USA may be primitive???? well maybe ... in behalf of USA residents,most of us are at least aware of exactly which country we have residence.
If an auction says United States only - then if you live in Canada that means that if you have a Canadian address you should not bid.
I DO SHIP internationally but think it is a seller's prerogative.
I do not know why anyone would bid on an auction knowing the seller has specified publicly they will not ship to them.
Maybe they are illiterate or geographically challenged. ...I just do not know.
eg.Generally -People in Boston know they live in the USA. People in Toronto seem to be unable to discern they are residents of Canada.
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