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 getalife
 
posted on August 22, 2004 10:42:32 AM new
Lucy, I'm just getting back to these posts and have only read the two posts that follow mine. I'll answer this without reading the rest so they don't influence my answer.

About a year ago I spent some time trying to find out the difference between Nouveau and Deco so basically I know more about these two than all the rest. My guess would be some form of Eastern influenced style, maybe Arab or Indian. I know nothing of Gouda but suspect I am about to learn a few things about it.

 
 iareateacher
 
posted on August 22, 2004 12:00:27 PM new
Although I do know the difference between escargot and Aebleskiver pans, I'm far from knowledgeable about styles

Normally I wouldn't say anything, but I'm becoming concerned. In a motherly Aunt Bea "why, what seems to be the matter, dear?" sort of way, of course.

You see, this is only about the sixth time this week you've mentioned aebel...ealeb...abela...oh screw it, you know, that word.

Were you frightened as a child on Halloween when an Aebleskiver dressed up as Freddy Krueger and showed up at your front door?

Were you forced to write "I will not play with my Aebleskiver in class" 100 times on the blackboard?

Were you tragically disfigured in an explosion at the local Aebleskiver factory?

We're all here to help, you know. You can tell us.

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 Roadsmith
 
posted on August 23, 2004 02:17:23 PM new
Bump.
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 Damariscotta
 
posted on August 23, 2004 03:02:50 PM new
For those in the Boston area, the Victoria and Albert Museum's Art Deco exhibit will be opening soon (if not already) at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts. We saw this in San Francisco, and it is wonderful. Will give you a good idea of the wide range of art deco design.
It would not be misleading to characterize this Gouda vase as art deco in feeling - there were many influences on art deco - probably some of the same that influenced the Gouda output. Influences such as folk art, ancient arts and African, etc. Not all art deco was sharp and mechanical. In any event, it is probably not even relevant, as most collectors will probably just be searching on "Gouda, -cheese" .


 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on August 23, 2004 03:14:43 PM new
Hi Damariscotta,

Thanks for the input. I'm going to try to find something on the Museum.

It's not that I'm trying to fit this piece into the Deco mold or anything like that, I just don't want to mis-describe by commission or omission.

Yes, you're right, keywords in this case are Gouda and vase.

Lucy

P.S. Roadsmith, thanks for the bump. This thread was getting lost.

 
 ladyjewels2000
 
posted on August 23, 2004 03:27:24 PM new
Lucy
I don't think anyone would even question it if you were to use Deco or Nouveau or both as it just has that feel IMO. Can't you see it in a room full of Art Deco Furniture. I can but then I can see it in an Eames Era room too. It should sell well regardless. So just do whatever make you feel comfortable.
Good luck

 
 iareateacher
 
posted on August 23, 2004 03:30:58 PM new
I don't think anyone would even question it if you were to use Deco or Nouveau or both as it just has that feel

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 Damariscotta
 
posted on August 23, 2004 05:31:57 PM new
...I'm going to try to find something on the Museum...


http://www.mfa.org/exhibitions/artdeco/

 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on August 23, 2004 06:31:23 PM new
Damariscotta,

Thanks for the link! The more I read the more I want to read.

Art Nouveau? Art Deco? Who knows?

This Gouda vase just may take over my life... Maybe I should just keep it.

I wish I were an expert on Gouda. It's definitely more interesting than an escargot plate or an Aebleskiver pan.

Lucy


 
 rustygumbo
 
posted on August 23, 2004 06:46:00 PM new
Just curious, but I noticed the markings " '77"

I'm not a pottery expert, but what does the '77 mean? What markings are you referring to? I've seen tons of pottery that looks old, but ends up being very good reproductions created in the 70's-90's and on...

 
 sparkz
 
posted on August 23, 2004 06:47:17 PM new
The idea is to get lookers in to make up their own minds. I was thinking of a simple, straight forward title like " Art Deco Nouveau Minty Gouda Vase, Chabby Chic Nude Sex L@@K!"


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 OhMsLucy
 
posted on August 23, 2004 07:11:07 PM new
Hi Rusty,

177 is the pattern number. The year is indicated by the triangle-topped mark that's next to the PZH house symbol. It's the mark for 1930.

The number at the top, 428 with an inverted Y, is a batch number. Djalo is the pattern name, J v V are the initials of the artist who painted the piece.

Lucy

 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on August 23, 2004 07:12:25 PM new
Jeeze, Sparks, I'd never put L@@K! in an auction title...

Lucy



 
 Reamond
 
posted on August 23, 2004 08:40:11 PM new
Could it be an Egyptian or Greek revival piece ?


 
 OhMsLucy
 
posted on August 23, 2004 08:46:12 PM new
Reamond,

You mean the pattern style? I'm not familiar with those terms. What I do know is it was made in 1930 and is Gouda pottery.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Lucy

 
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