chococake
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posted on February 16, 2001 10:50:19 AM new
Well Bush is moving faster than I thought he would. The Pentagon briefing will be on soon. Will be back later as I'm sure this will be discussed.
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 10:58:01 AM new
Surprise, surprise. He promised daddy.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010216/wl/iraq.html
[ edited by krs on Feb 16, 2001 10:59 AM ]
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jamesoblivion
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:11:12 AM new
Because we all know a missile attack will topple Saddam's regime. Along with economic sanctions. Sure.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:24:01 AM new
"The reason we did this is over the past month and a half or so, we've seen an increase in Iraqi activity in trying to target coalition planes over the southern no-fly zone," a Pentagon official told reporters on condition of anonymity.
"Not only an increase in activity but it appeared to be better coordinated from a command and control standpoint," he said.
"Therefore we felt it gave an increased vulnerability to our forces operating over the south and we wanted to strike that integrated air defense system and the command and control system that supported that to kind of roll that capability back and make it a little bit safer for coalition air forces," the official said.
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HJW
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:30:49 AM new
Now that he has started a war, do you suppose
that he may have a news conference?
or is that why he is in Mexico?
Helen
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jamesoblivion
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:34:45 AM new
This is probably his first time in Mexico that he doesn't get to visit prostitutes and get drunk. 
Actually, this isn't a "war". They are constantly bombing targets in the "no-fly zone" in Iraq which isn't as much of a "no-fly zone" as it sounds like.
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HJW
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:39:01 AM new
James,
Re: first time,
Don't count on it.
Helen
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:39:28 AM new
That's a whole 'nuther mystery. All of a sudden Felipe' Fox, the Mexican president is on CNN almost all night talking about new oil partnerships with US companies, and Bush goes down there right away.
I'm waiting to see what unfolds about that, and what promises Bush made with the support of his oil based political support group.
Neil's going to appear soon, just you wait and see.
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 11:53:49 AM new
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010216/ts/iraq_attack_dc.html
Who's a babykiller?
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chococake
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posted on February 16, 2001 12:31:50 PM new
I really don't know this. Does the Secretarty of State usually travel with the President, and then hold a news conference?
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Meya
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posted on February 16, 2001 12:56:58 PM new
It was recommended by Military officials, and the Brits are involved as well. Hardly a war, and hardly all Bush's doing.
Over the past couple of months, the Iraqi sites had increasingly fired nonguided anti-aircraft missiles at U.S. planes patrolling the no-fly zones in Iraq that have been in effect since the Gulf War, Newbold said.
"It reached the point that it was obvious to our forces that they had to conduct the operation to safeguards those pilots and the aircraft. In fact (it was) essentially a self-defense measure," he said.
Remember who started it.
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zeldas
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:01:27 PM new
Meya But, it is still plenty scary----
Where is Cheney anyway?
[ edited by zeldas on Feb 16, 2001 01:44 PM ]
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:05:07 PM new
Sure. Nevermind that the no-fly zone is Iraqi territory, and that they don't agree to the imposition of any infringement of their territory by foriegn hostile aircraft. Why, they invaded a country to take back what once was theirs and they have as a result no-fly zones policed by uninvolved countries for ten years after cessation of hostilities between the involved countries. And they started it. Sure.
Why we could reciprocate so that everything would be equal by allowing Iraq to establish no-fly zones around Florida and letting them patrol those areas with armed weapons capable of attacking targets hundreds of miles inward from those no-fly zones.
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gravid
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:10:19 PM new
Actually very effective. If you can trace the emissions and know where all the information is being fed and the orders are coming back from you drop a big bomb right where the command center is. Gets the decision makers instead of the little guys.
They didn't let him go to Mexico with out an adult along did they?
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jamesoblivion
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:13:40 PM new
Ken, these are terms that Iraq agreed to to end the Gulf War.
This whole policy is a total failure, in any case. The irony is that Cheney/ Powell were the orchestrators of this failed policy in the first instance and are now in place again.
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:18:03 PM new
Not with any idea that it would go on for ten years.
This is just Good Old American Imperialism --squish that country because they threatened our interests.
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preacher4u
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:18:39 PM new
krs:
Felipe Fox??
Could you puh-leeze get your facts straight?
The name is Vicente Fox.
[ edited by preacher4u on Feb 16, 2001 01:19 PM ]
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:21:52 PM new
Oh yeah. That's right. He should change his name for a more lyrical quality in the news.
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preacher4u
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:26:33 PM new
Whatever.
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Pocono
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:27:16 PM new
GREAT wag the dog Bushboy!!
Excellent idea to get the sub off the front page, and the military SUPPORT instead of CRITICISM for the sub incident.
Wag the Dog, Wag the Dog, Wag the Dog...
I knew his daddy would get him to "avenge" HIS failure.
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snowyegret
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:27:57 PM new
Vicente Fox Quesada
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:33:32 PM new
para un nombre el mundo pararaˇ? Los bebĂs no gritarĂn gente no sufriran?
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snowyegret
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posted on February 16, 2001 01:38:45 PM new
krs: Sufrio aqui, porque mi bebe esta gritando. [sonrisa]
You did say lyrical....
Is Pemex lyrical enough?
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 05:31:55 PM new
I always called it Peemix, and it surprised me that my cars would run.
su sonrisa es ligera, egret
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gravid
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posted on February 16, 2001 07:28:41 PM new
If they keep raining missiles on these little countries you can see why they want a missile shield for the US. Sooner or later one of them is going to figure out how to strap enough of the smaller rockets together to reach Washington and demonstrate just how pissed they are.
All this talk about them developing atomic bombs is so stupid. I mean we are talking 1940's technology here. I am only a high school graduate, not a student of nuclear physics and I would have no trouble making
a small fission bomb if you gave me a hunk of U 235 big enough to form a critical mass.
The trouble is it woould take a heavy duty truck to deliver what I could make not something you can put on a missile nose. But hey - What is to keep them from shipping one in on a freighter in a big container? It would not be a hydrogen bomb of megatons - but a 40 or 50 kiloton bomb will do a surprising amount of damage. You have to increase the power by the factor of a cube to double the damage caused.
I bet they have a surprising number of people checking container ships and such from the middle east.
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sgtmike
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posted on February 16, 2001 08:42:56 PM new
President George Bush ordered the attacks to be limited to missile sites and assisting radar sites only, outside Baghdad.
Clinton did not do as well. He used our military might for so many personal diversions, I forget which was for what. I think this attack was a "White Water" diversion, or maybe it for the BJ, "I did not have sex with that women…" diversion.
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/981217/1998121701.html
http://kak.net/clinton/attack_ends.htm
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9903/03/iraq/
I forget for what scandal he used the military in the Balkans to create a diversion and kill and maim children in playgrounds and a bus.
http://www.counterpunch.org/children.html
I do believe the strikes he ordered in the Balkans took out more than just the troops.
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=r&n=3&i=OSrqt64&m=14&u=counterpunch.org/bodycount.html
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1998/jan98/98-01-14.html
http://www.iacenter.org/liesfcts.htm
http://www.iacenter.org/rkun4599.htm
Clinton had civilians slaughtered and billions of dollars of non-military sites destroyed, including the famous biological "aspirin factory," to save his career and his fat a&&.
[ edited by sgtmike on Feb 16, 2001 08:45 PM ]
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gaffan
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posted on February 16, 2001 08:53:57 PM new
Wish I could remember who to attribute this to. "The easiest way to smuggle a nuclear bomb into the US would be to put it in a bale of marijuana."
-gaffan-
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roadsmith
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posted on February 16, 2001 09:00:13 PM new
I dunno--this is way off the subject, but still on the subject of GWB. I was reminded again today of one of my favorite Bushisms: "We must remember the universal rule: Like your neighbor like you like to be liked yourself." Gawd.
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december3
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posted on February 16, 2001 09:01:04 PM new
Well at least Clinton was covering his own butt. Daddy Bush started a war to get everyones mind off the idiot Neils little problem.
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krs
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posted on February 16, 2001 09:04:03 PM new
So, you are saying, as usual, that Clinton was more prolific in doing things that you think are wrong, and that though bush does the same things he's better because he hasn't done as much of it?
To quote you, sgtmike, "Give him time, he's only been in office (then) 19 days".
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