posted on April 8, 2006 06:19:48 PM
glassgirl,
it is another forum under community ,we have yahoo auction,amzn auction and round table discussion etc ,click on that and you will read all these heated arguments and name calling etc on political views
/ lets all stop whining !! /
posted on April 8, 2006 06:39:06 PM
I drive a Ford Festiva which gets 45MPG. A Ford Focus would be the latest version of that. I guess the Hybrids get more milage than that.
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posted on April 8, 2006 06:50:17 PM
It isn't all good natured fun poking down there (I say "down" because the board is located below this one) is it? Haven't people had auctions seriously messed with etc? I think people are constantly reporting each other to the powers that be at Vendio and getting suspended from board use for awhile. And some people take it all very personally and disappear altogether (what ever happened to the lady from Wisconsin who sold bracelets/jewelry?) A few seem to be so "hooked" that it looks like they have no other life. I doubt that they can be REAL ebay sellers for all the time they spend posting the same drivel. At the RT the presidential election of 2004 is never over (or is it 2000?)Maybe I haven't read enough of it recently to see if things have improved but a quick look at the price of gold thread tells me it hasn't. I did however, get a kick out of Tom's post about teachers until it got too nasty.
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posted on April 8, 2006 07:07:12 PM
Neglus - the person claiming that their auctions were messed with is ... well.... questionable. You may be a thread here awhile ago about a picture of a lamp....
And then there is Classic..... 'nuff said.
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posted on April 8, 2006 07:54:31 PM
I remember that one Neglus - I was right there with her until she said the shoes were in a box n her back step or something.
I had a cat whose great joy when he couldn't get outside and catch birds was to pratice takedown methods on my black platform boots then roll around kicking them into submission with his back claws. He shredded those things but he never dragged them out of a box to do it.
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posted on April 8, 2006 08:38:54 PM
I remember the threads where people are in trouble-what about a bunch of sellers who sold designer gowns to some jerk in Eastern Europe accepting his payments thrU Billpoint and lost thousand of dollars,one lost 20,000 dollars and they were going to sue Billpoint ?
What about a single mother who was selling for a guy from NYC and he hacked into her paypal account ,withdrew the money and left her with no jewelry to ship?
And the Canadian guy who registered his sister 's bank account with Paypal and got his account restricted??
And someone who knows someone who paid 7k for an antique Chinese terra cotta horse which is worth may be 7 dollars ??
and what about that seller who shipped a piece of furniture to a buyer/dealer who refused to let her Mexican workers assembled the piece ,that thread was the longest ever in Vendio history,so many of you urging her to continue her legal battle !!
Last but not least,what ever happens to that E-GOLD guy who was taken to court by Paypal and lost his house ??
/ lets all stop whining !! /
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posted on April 8, 2006 09:07:49 PM
Hwahwa...The only reason I've been hanging around Vendio as long as I have is to find out what the final outcome was on that case of "anatomically correct" turtle lamps Jerry12 had. I'd also like to know whatever happened to Brenda and her shilling brood who had the cremation urn.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
posted on April 8, 2006 09:34:08 PM
sparkz, I only hang around because I'm waiting for Jerry12 to come back.
hwahwa, forgot about that furniture thread. Wonder how it turned out. It was a good one.
As for OT threads, I do like them. I'm another one who almost never goes anywhere else, I feel comfortable here & occasionally reading something other than eBay can be a welcome change.
posted on April 8, 2006 09:34:40 PM
I dont remember any of that,I must be on vacation!
I remember GHOST IN A JAR ,the guy went on talk show,started a club and issue monthly newsletter.dvd /vhs tapes ,etc.
/ lets all stop whining !! /
posted on April 8, 2006 10:30:27 PM
Classic in this case is 100% wrong.
Fenix beat me to the correct answers to the battery discussion. It is well know in the auto industry about the longevity of the hybrid batteries and it is true they quit testing after 160,000 miles as virtually none went bad.
Also, watch for Nissan to have a hybrid out in the next two-three years as well.
Stay clear of Ford or GM though. They will have problems. Both of them can't even get the normal cars right.
posted on April 9, 2006 03:26:28 AM
Stone-Im not 100% wrong.The part about the battery having to be replaced every 3 years was a quote I repeated from hwahwa-not my quote.
The part about the hybrid cars being more expensive then the regular cars is true.So that being said,Im 100% right....as usual.
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posted on April 9, 2006 05:40:24 AM
I read an article online, and I believe it was Consumer Reports that ran the article, about hybrids not saving any money and actually costing more in the long run. CR did the analysis on cost of the car, repairs, and depreciation. It turned out that you actually lose money on hybrids in the long run. So that gas savings doesn't really add up. CR said to wait a while before purchasing a hybrid until they come down in price and have a better proven track record on car repairs.
posted on April 9, 2006 06:10:13 AM
There is also report on problem with the Toyota Prius battery,while driving on the road,it will stall??
The issue of replacing the battery before warranty expires,I picked that up on a discussion board where some guys were saying better replace it while it is covered under warranty,else we have to fork over 1k .
There is no saying that the battery would only last 2-3 years.
But when I was shopping for a Honda Accord,I found the hybrid version more expensive ,like 7-8k more than a regular Accord and there is no guarantee it will use less fuel driving in the city.
/ lets all stop whining !! /
posted on April 11, 2006 01:31:12 PM
I forgot to mention one of the big plusses for hybrid car owners in California; we get to drive in the carpool lane with no passengers, just the driver. This is a major plus for commuters here; we go off the mountains so seldom that it's not that big a deal for us:
Life in the slow lane
April, 11 2006
IF CALIFORNIA WERE SERIOUS about using hybrid cars to promote energy conservation, it would ban them from the carpool lane, no matter the number of passengers they carry. After all, hybrids are thriftier on fuel in stop-and-go driving, not when flying down the highway.
But neither that nor any other sensible consideration drove Sacramento or Washington lawmakers' decision to allow the solo motorists in certain gas/electric vehicles to use carpool lanes. Hybrids like the Toyota Prius are just too efficient with fuel, too stingy with emissions — in short, just too environmentally lovable — not to be the object of some legislative kissy-face. It's all about feeling good, not doing good.
The idea behind the carpool law was to encourage sales of the most socially conscious hybrids, even though there already was a waiting list for them before the bill passed, as there is now. In fact, the law was written to encourage exactly as many hybrid sales as the automakers already were predicting. There may have been a sale or two since then to a driver who bought a hybrid solely for the carpool privileges. But if that driver hadn't bought it, another one would have.
Now the state will study whether the introduction so far of 50,000 more cars to the carpool lanes is slowing life down for the people who buddy up. Anecdotally, according to a recent report in The Times, the answer is yes. But that may simply reflect resentment from drivers who can't get into the lanes without a passenger. (Inevitably, that passenger is one who delivers blow-by-blow descriptions of his intense social interactions during a day of programming computers.)
Or maybe the resentment comes from that other socially conscious habit among hybrid drivers: keeping within the speed limit (yes, even in the carpool lane). It's so annoyingly safe and legal. The problem could be that, having been the object of so much public approval, hybrids were due for a comedown almost presidential in scope. Or it could simply be those glaringly self-satisfied little mustard-yellow carpool-lane access stickers that practically shout "neener-neener" as they slowly recede into the distance.
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posted on April 11, 2006 02:54:39 PM
niel35 wrote: My daughter has a new job with lots of driving involved. Can anyone suggest a hybrid SUV that has low gas mileage. (Not sure if I am wording this right).
I'd suggest some of the auto forums for real solid info. Also SUV and low gas mileage are oxymorons. A compact car always beats an SUV on mileage, and if it's diesel you can really save on fuel if you know how to convert it to running on used cooking oil (as some local have done).
posted on April 11, 2006 04:00:19 PM
I was at the library today and I noticed this month's issue of consumer reports has something on the Hybrid cars on the cover.
she/you might want to drop by a local store and pick up an issue.
posted on April 11, 2006 04:44:16 PM
agitprop - There is no conversion to run on processed cooking oil. I run 6 trucks on a 50/50 mix with NO modifications. It can also be run full strength if I get alot. I have aggrements set up with over 20 local restraunts and I get all of their used cooking oil.
The only downfall or upside depending on how you look at it is for the guy behind me in trafic. Instead of smelling the beutiful aroma of pure diesel exhaust they get a face full of french fry smell mixed in. I sometimes wonder if I have increased local consumption of french fries because of this. Maybe McDonalds should be paying me to take their oil.
Currently it cost me 69 cents per gallon to process. The local pump price is $2.69 so I'm saving $2.00 per gallon if run full strength. If you calculate in that I use a 50/50 mix I am paying $1.69 per gallon. Still a $1.00 savings in the end.
Other benefits are it acts as a high detergent type fuel so it keeps the fuel injection pump and injectors spotless. Also it has a much higher lubricity factor then regular diesel alone (one of the downsides since they removed sulpher as a lubricant from diesel a few years ago). The net effect is cheaper fuel, cleaner tailpipe particulate counts much reduced engine component wear and to top it, it increases fuel economy.
One International 466E engine has been running on it for close to 2 years now and if I run regular full strength fuel in it I get 12.8 miles to the gallon. With a 50/50 mix I get 15.2 miles to the gallon. Full strength processed cooking oil does not seem to get much over 18.2 and currently I am not getting enough used oil to run my trucks on it full strength.
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posted on April 11, 2006 06:41:13 PM
<<There's little to no information about the cost for replacing a hybrid battery, because it hasn't been a requirement with today's models. When that day comes, owners will replace a single cell -- there are hundreds in a hybrid's battery pack -- or a module, not the entire pack (see BW Online, 1/05/06, "Pursuing New Power for Hybrids" ).>>
That is a typical statement that would come from a fast talking, commission based, aggressive salesman at a dealership. The only remote relationship to fact is if a cell dies during the first few miles of the batteries life. After it has been run for 25,000 - 35,000 miles, you DO NOT change out a single cell in a NI-MH battery pack. The artitecture of the charging requirements for these batteries is very complicated and totally different than with regular batteries. A new cell in the pack can upset the cycle and cause premature shutdown, delayed shutdown or possibly an explosion. In any event, other cells will start failing immediately if the charger doesn't melt down first. Even if a person were foolish enough to fall for trying single cell replacement, it's not a DIY project. You'll pay someone $50-75.00 per hour to do it. When that first cell goes, change out the entire battery and get enough of an allowance out of the old one to partially offset the cost. The remaining cells can be recycled by experts and matched with compatible used cells to produce refurbished battery packs at a substantial savings to the next consumer. They've been doing this for years with Ni-Cads. That's where a lot of the low cost laptop replacement batteries come from.
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posted on April 11, 2006 07:56:21 PM
::Instead of smelling the beutiful aroma of pure diesel exhaust they get a face full of french fry smell mixed in::
ROFL!!!!!
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