kasue
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posted on June 17, 2006 09:37:26 PM new
Please see this site also, Tom: http://www.doglogic.com/vaccineinfo.htm You aren't alone in this problem with Ralphie. That vet isn't keeping up with his reading or he would know that "all 27 veterinary schools in North America are in the process of changing their protocols for vaccinating dogs and cats". Our vet insisted on vaccinating Janie even though she had just been diagnosed with cancer. We had read that dogs were being overvaccinated and we STILL let him give her the shots. In her case, she had no ill effects from the shots. Don't blame yourself, you SHOULD be able to trust your vet.
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paloma91
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posted on June 17, 2006 09:55:59 PM new
http://www.doglogic.com/vaccineinfo.htm
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mcjane
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posted on June 17, 2006 11:57:36 PM new
Some vets are downright idiots. A dog, cat or any animal should never be vaccinated with anything when they are sick or even if you suspect they might sick because they are acting differently.
Always say NO & if they don't accept no for an answer then go somewhere else. You wouldn't want them to take care of your pet anyway.
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KarenMx
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posted on June 18, 2006 11:41:43 AM new
So, mcjane, with all this wonderful insight into veterinary medicine, you got your degree....where?
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tOMWiii
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posted on June 18, 2006 12:00:12 PM new
Whooooah! Did some little pussy get up on the WRONG side of the bed of nails this morning??
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on June 18, 2006 12:02:30 PM new
I have to agree. Why wouldn't you give anything to include people a vaccination just because they are sick? I can remember getting 6 vaccination shots when I was down with the Flu for a overseas deployment when I was in the Army eon's ago. My having the Flu had nothing to do with getting shots for other thing's.
 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on June 18, 2006 12:31:26 PM new
Mike
Go back and read my post - I can't say 100% that that's why my Charlie died but I believe it was. Take my word for it - you don't want to take that chance if you love your pet!!!
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KarenMx
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posted on June 18, 2006 01:02:09 PM new
Hmm, dog with established seizure disorder dies. Unless you had the dog necropsied, you can't blame it on the vaccines.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on June 18, 2006 03:41:14 PM new
Oh but I can and I do. I also blame myself for even taking him with the other dogs. I have to live with that!!
I don't wish the pain I've felt on anyone else - please just wait if you know or feel your dog isn't well. After all what can it hurt to wait awhile?
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irked
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posted on June 18, 2006 05:17:41 PM new
I have to agree most DR.s and vest will NOT give vaccinations if you are sick period. My mother-in-law is nurse and testifies to that. If you got shots to go overseas in the service that is different they thing differently for sure they just stick and go to heck with outcome. My son went through getting shots while sick and got worse and wound up in the infirmary. My wife also worked for Dr.s for almost 10 years and they would not inject anyone if running fever for any type vaccine other shots are different.
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I married my wife for her looks...but not the
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pixiamom
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posted on June 18, 2006 06:04:04 PM new
I think Jane's right on this one. I remember having to sign off that my dog & kid were in good health before either could get vaccinated.
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sparkz
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posted on June 18, 2006 06:59:36 PM new
Irked is correct. I thought it was common knowledge that a vaccine is not to be administered to anyone who is sick or running a fever, animal or person. The body is cranked up to overdrive producing antibodies, and most vaccines will not take, and be rendered useless. In fact, they can be seen by the body as an additional invasion by an infection. Only an army doctor would try it because they can't be sued for malpractice.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
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niel35
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posted on June 20, 2006 05:23:13 AM new
UPDATE - Nina seems to be doing much better. Has been eating her food and even trying to steal some from the other dog. She is on meds until Friday and will take her in for blood tests. Thanks again for all your advice.
neva
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LtRay
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posted on June 20, 2006 07:17:36 AM new
That is good to hear Niel.
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mcjane
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posted on June 20, 2006 10:00:04 AM new
Good Lord KarenMx wake up & start learning. We are here to help each other & you don't need a degree for that.
Read this:
Don't vaccinate a sick dog. Only healthy dogs should be vaccinated -- if your dog is sick or stressed its immune system is busy dealing with the sickness or stress. Piling a vaccine on that decreases the effectiveness of the dog's immune system at fighting the illness, inhibits the development of an effective immune response to the vaccine, and increases the probability of an allergic reaction.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on June 20, 2006 10:31:30 AM new
Glad to hear Niel. Hope it goes well for you two.
[ edited by ladyjewels2000 on Jun 20, 2006 10:36 AM ]
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tOMWiii
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posted on June 20, 2006 11:49:06 AM new
Way to go Nina and Neva!
NOW: Be sure to eat ALL yer succatash & wear yer GALOSHES (all 4) when it's RAINING...
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niel35
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posted on June 21, 2006 08:26:26 AM new
Tom - tnx for good wishes. Never tried succotash, but she loves cooked sweet potato and its good for her. Hope Ralphie is doing OK.
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tOMWiii
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posted on June 21, 2006 09:09:11 AM new
THANKS, Nina -- he goes to his NEW Dr tomorrow morning...BUT...are you ready?
He had a NORMAL kaka-poo-poo this AM! I was a'singing and a'dancing for joy all over the neighborhood -- until he gave me a dirty look 
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niel35
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posted on June 21, 2006 04:26:53 PM new
Rah, Rah, for good
kaka-poo-poos
Ralphie, hang in there!
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kasue
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posted on June 21, 2006 08:48:35 PM new
Tom, I am glad to hear Ralphie had a normal poop. Does that mean he is acting more like his old self? I learned on one of my dog groups that canned pumpkin (not the pie kind with spices, just plain pumpkin) is a miracle worker when it comes to constipation or diarrhea in dogs. For some reason it brings moisture to the bowel and gets everything back to normal. Sorry if that is too much information!
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pixiamom
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posted on June 21, 2006 09:13:17 PM new
Only on Vendio...
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mcjane
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posted on June 22, 2006 12:46:28 AM new
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niel35
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posted on June 22, 2006 07:37:10 AM new
ROFLMAO, or whatever. McJane that is my job in the dog run every day. Wish I could train my dogs to pick up.
Pixie, ur right, only on Vendio!
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tOMWiii
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posted on June 22, 2006 07:47:08 AM new
Ok, FATBOY has returned from his visit with his new DR -- a nice lady...
She thought at first he might have CUSHING'S DISEASE -- but his BLOOD WORK, etc was 100% NEGATIVE!
Which, I guess, is GOOD NEWS -- the final decision is to put him on a VERY STRICT diet -- no more CATS; no more POSSUM!
Every morning, he & I are gonna RUN 10 miles in the FL HEAT...
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irked
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posted on June 22, 2006 09:37:15 AM new
Tom, I want a picture of that run. LOL Glad Dr. visit was good one?
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mcjane
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posted on June 22, 2006 12:14:59 PM new
niel Cracked me up too, couldn't resist posting it.
Nina & Ralphie, both getting better every day. Happy news.
Can't wait to see Nina's latest blood test.
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sparkz
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posted on June 22, 2006 12:47:46 PM new
Tom...I agree with the Doc on the strict diet. In the future, you need to be much more selective on which neighbor's trash can he knocks over and rummages through.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
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irked
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posted on June 22, 2006 12:49:27 PM new
LOL sparkz
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I married my wife for her looks...but not the
ones she's been giving me lately!
[ edited by irked on Jun 22, 2006 01:05 PM ]
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niel35
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posted on June 22, 2006 01:51:42 PM new
Just got back from the vet and Nina's platelets are much higher and her blood work has improved. Have to keep her on the meds and go back in 2 weeks. Ralphie, we have a lady vet too. Leave dem dere possums alone, boy.
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