tomwiii
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posted on January 3, 2008 01:37:25 PM new
...a REAL PHOTO p-card?
If "NOT" how do I distinguish a "REAL PHOTO" p-card from a postcard which is merely a photograph?
Me & my roomie/biz pardner are mightily dazed & confused about this issue, so yer KIND assistance is grovellingly requested...purty PULEEZE?
Tom & Ralphie
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neglus
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posted on January 3, 2008 01:53:36 PM new
No not a real photo. RPPC's are printed on photo processing paper and have a photo finish. This is a print (nice quality) from a photograph.
Louis Levi (LL) postcards are very collectible in France
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vintageads4u
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posted on January 3, 2008 02:41:08 PM new
I don't know anything about postcards, but Carolyn who used to post here has a site that I think tells about them:
http://www.vintagepostcards.org/
Also, neglus has put a tutorial out before. There might be an ebay guide.
Tom and Ralphie: You got yourself some nice postcards.
Beth
Antique Ad Shop
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tomwiii
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posted on January 3, 2008 03:30:05 PM new
THANK YOU ALL!
The ONLY reason Ralphie & I have some NICE postcards to sell is due to the EXTREME KINDNESS of some here on the EO who are helping us get our new line OFF the GROUND...
So far, PCs have been a lot of FUN for us, & I enjoy the scanning + auction design, plus the shipping is IDEAL for me, since I really only have ONE arm that works...Ralphie complains to any who will listen: "My Daddy is an OLD FAHT & he's falling apart!" Think he's planning on running away from home soon...
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tomwiii
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posted on January 3, 2008 07:36:41 PM new
neglus:
"Louis Levi (LL) postcards are very collectible in France"
Looking through my collection, I have about 15 FRENCH pc's marked LL...
If LL is Louis Levi, do you know who DD represents on other FRENCH pc's?
Also, which shipping method does one employ and what rate for EUROPE?
THANKEE ONE & ALL!
Tom & Ralphie
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pixiamom
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posted on January 3, 2008 07:44:55 PM new
I think it's Louis Levy? They are one of the better publishers, but no sure sale. This is a lovely card, I'd mention sepia, early autos, busy street scene in the description, if not in the title. Edited to add, one fellow has gone to the trouble of categorizing all the real photo postcard backs he could find. A tremendous help in dating cards, it has become a bible to postcard collectors and dealers. If in doubt about a real photo, check here http://www.playle.com/realphoto/photoall.htm.
Another good method I frequently use is to scan a small area of the card at 800 DPI- if you can see any dots, it's not a real photo. Are you sure the others are marked DD instead of ND? (Neur Dein)
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riverfarm
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posted on January 3, 2008 07:46:17 PM new
Not an expert, but it seems I've seen a distinction made when you can see a dot pattern with a magnifying glass. If it has dots, then it is considered a printed photo rather than a real photo.
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pixiamom
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posted on January 3, 2008 08:03:54 PM new
I send cards first class usps. If you keep the shipping slip tiny (I get 10 per page), print the address directly on the envelope and not on a label, you can keep the postage at 1 oz (exactly), which is 90 cents to Europe. If you ship 2 postcards in 1 postcard sleeve, the postage jumps to $1.80. 90 cents to Europe per oz. or portion of an oz. Ouch!
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tomwiii
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posted on January 3, 2008 08:09:09 PM new
THANKS!
Now I understand the difference, and Ralphie says we only have THREE: street scenes from...Budapest!
Oi!
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neglus
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posted on January 3, 2008 08:10:00 PM new
Pixia's right - it's Levy not Levi (never can remember that one!). He was very prolific and as pixia said - not a sure sell but wouldn't hurt to mention it.
The dot test is a good one (though I have to admit that I never see dots on the ones I question so naked eye and paper it's printed on are pretty good ways to tell). I use the Playle guide to RPPC backs like a Bible to date the RPPC cards.
I don't know "DD" publisher in France.
I ship first class mail international ($.90) inside a rigid sleeve in 4x6 envelope. I charge $2.00 mostly because I don't have the means or time to revise my rates on 8,000 store items. Anything over 1 oz ships for another $.90/oz. My PO doesn't charge the rigid surcharge on international shipments. My husband has been known to cut the plastic sleeve a little to get under the 1 oz if we have heavy card or if I am shipping multiples. International sales have been very strong this Fall (probably because of weak dollar and because eBay is letting US items show on searches on non-US sites).
The French like street scenes with people, horses, cars etc (just like this one) Smaller towns command better prices than larger cities but you would be surprised at how many Eifel Tower views I have sold!
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neglus
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posted on January 3, 2008 08:11:40 PM new
Oops Pixia is faster typist than I am! Budapest sells very well. 
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pixiamom
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posted on January 4, 2008 01:52:05 AM new
Another favorite link - at postcard shows, one usually finds a few folks looking at the wrong side of the postcard - these are postal history buffs who are intrigued by the route the postcard took (via postmarks). I think Neglus' top selling card was a rare censored card from Bermuda. ALWAYS mention unusual postmarks. Postmarks SENT (not received) from small towns can be valuable, especially if the post office only existed for a short time. I check http://postalhistory.com/postoffices.asp for towns I suspect are DPo (Dead Post Offices). Also collectible: postmarks from mail processed on trains or streetcars(RPO'S, RMS).
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photosensitive
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posted on January 4, 2008 05:48:56 AM new
Tomwiii, I was going to mention the regular dot patterns as well. If you see them it is certainly printed. If you are selling a lot of cards it would be good to get a jewelers' loupe to examine them. Not only can you see a regular dot pattern but you can pick up detail that you may not notice without it. I would mention anything out of the ordinary that you notice in the scene. I, as an example, collect postcards that show someone with a camera. It is not always easy to see such details in the small low res scans that some sellers post.
As an aside you might not see a regular dot pattern on some early printing processes because they used a random pattern screen.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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tomwiii
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posted on January 4, 2008 06:59:12 AM new
Photo's usually sage advice includes:
"Not only can you see a regular dot pattern but you can pick up detail that you may not notice without it"
Did ya notice the LADY RIDING HER HORSE SIDESADDLE in the above card? Kewl, huh?
Tom & Ralphie
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neglus
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posted on January 4, 2008 07:44:07 AM new
Interesting - in horse & buggy days vehicles drove on the RIGHT side of the street in Paris - did they drive on the WRONG side in London back then too?
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photosensitive
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posted on January 4, 2008 08:03:13 AM new
I did not notice the lady riding side saddle. There might well be collectors of that subject. I suggest a mention in the description.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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tomwiii
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posted on January 4, 2008 08:19:24 AM new
On a DISCOMBUBLATING note:
I have around 20 pc auctions up right now -- ranging from cute PUPPY-IN-A-HAT to a "comic" card of husband and LEMON-HEADED WIFE at the altar, and the only card that has oodles of watchers & TWO bids?
...The SWASTIKAS as DECORATIVE BORDER card!
As Buffalo Springfield sang:
"People are strange..."
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zippy2dah
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posted on January 4, 2008 08:57:01 AM new
They still drive on the right side in France. Except for the nuts who drive in the middle.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 4, 2008 12:35:46 PM new
YIKES!
3 bids, $12.50 for da SWASTIKA auction!
"What me worry?" "childrens do learn"
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tomwiii
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posted on January 4, 2008 01:18:05 PM new
MORE STOOOPID QUESTIONS for the POSTCARD experts:
1) Do you put the word "POSTCARD" in the TITLE, or do you assume hat it is UNDERSTOOD by the category, and the fact that, in the description, the word POSTCARD is?
2) What does: "ARTIST SIGNED" mean?
THANKS ALL!
Gee, Ralphie, I feel like it's 1999 all over again, and I'm brand new to AUCTIONS & AUCTION WATCH and HCQ is raking me over da coals for my ignorance...
"What me worry?""childrens do learn"
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pixiamom
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posted on January 4, 2008 01:41:13 PM new
Yes, I always put postcard in the title. People use the quick search, usually title only. If they search on Omaha Postcard, eBay will not return any items without Postcard in the title. Thus is especially important for international sites, their postcard categories do not map well at all to our categories and if key words aren't in the title, chances are , international buyers won't find it. Artist signed means the postcard has a signature or caption giving the artist's name. It isn't an original autograph.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 4, 2008 01:45:34 PM new
THANKS oh ye wunderful Mom-of-Pixies!
Was hoping I could DUMP that word, but, I guess not!
Also, I got a sudden chill down me spine because I listed some as ARTIST SIGNED, but then thought: "Oh. Geez! That doesn't mean a real signature, does it?"
Ralphie said not to be such an old worrywort & just...ASK DA EXPERTS!
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mcjane
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posted on January 4, 2008 09:37:21 PM new
You guys have come into some beautiful postcards. Love this one.
BTW I just knew that Swastica would sell.
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pixiamom
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posted on January 5, 2008 03:14:45 AM new
Tried to identify DD on one of my favorite reference sites. No luck, but they attribute LL cards to Lucien Levy. http://www.metropostcard.com/publishersl.html
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pmelcher
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posted on January 5, 2008 05:10:07 AM new
Tom, you and Ralphie are so brave to start out in another category! I have several postcards but have never had the guts to try and list them. Thanks to all of you I am learning so much and just may try my chances too.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 5, 2008 09:24:58 AM new
MommaPixie:
Now me & poor Ralphie be TOTALLY CONFUSED!
We have a BUNCH of "LL" cards which are obviously:
Lucien Levy and Neurdein Freres
but this SEPIA card is similiar to all the others on feeBay attributed to: LOUIS LEVY...
So, hoe does one distinguish a plain ole LUCIAN LEVY & SONS "LL" card?
Anybody know?
Anybody know how to get rid of the headache comung on?
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pixiamom
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posted on January 5, 2008 09:32:15 AM new
I think Louis Levy is short for Lucien Levy? Or perhaps the reference site has it wrong.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 5, 2008 09:36:38 AM new
Oh! Geez!
Now you've gone & done it --
You've got Ralphie crying in his beer: "Levy me alone, Daddy!"
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kozersky
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posted on January 5, 2008 12:33:00 PM new
Tom, I also think that you should mention that a card has a stamp and is postmarked. The stamp that appears on a card may have value, while postmark collectors may find the postmark interesting.
Bill K-
William J Kozersky Stamp Co.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 5, 2008 01:25:04 PM new
Bill:
I usually do -- my 1950 QUEEN ELIZABETH I ocean liner card has a postmark: "POSTED AT SEA" and I thought that was kinda KEWL???
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