posted on March 5, 2001 05:21:35 AM new
Not bad deco, not bad. I have Venus in Leo and all I get is shiny hair and the ability to run in pumps!
That reminds me.
Sometimes, well often I see people out and around and I pine for their birth data. There is this gal is the gym with red hair (bad dye job) down to nearly her knees but really short in front.
Anyway, she comes in the gym and climbs on a stationary bike, hair loose and then starts peddling and simultaneously braiding her hair.
Now, she really does not seem to be preening (takes one to know one) and so wonder what her deal is because I have never seen anyone braid their hair in public, especially 3 ft long red hair. Could she just be on the go and saving time? Maybe she is a Virgo and multi-tasking.
This is her routine, not a one time deal and so I wonder.
posted on March 5, 2001 05:23:02 AM new
Not bad deco, not bad. I have Venus in Leo and all I get is shiny hair and the ability to run in pumps!
That reminds me.
Sometimes, well often I see people out and around and I pine for their birth data. There is this gal is the gym with red hair (bad dye job) down to nearly her knees but really short in front.
Anyway, she comes in the gym and climbs on a stationary bike, hair loose and then starts peddling and simultaneously braiding her hair.
Now, she really does not seem to be preening (takes one to know one) and so wonder what her deal is because I have never seen anyone braid their hair in public, especially 3 ft long red hair. Could she just be on the go and saving time? Maybe she is a Virgo and multi-tasking.
This is her routine, not a one time deal and so I wonder.
posted on March 5, 2001 06:46:44 AM new
Hey, don't knock shiny hair! And running in pumps might be useful some day but I hope not! Also congrats on getting your license back!
A little question for you. I seem to have a head bursting with color ever since we started drawing up these plans about a month ago.We always kept the rentals a neutral of-white to beige which goes with everything and is easy to repaint when the tenants move. My own color, specifically for the bedroom was a pale pale blue and white.
Now I see purple, but that maybe a little hard to live with so have toned it down to lavender and pinky-lavender with white and a few purple accents and for my workroom and kitchen yellow. Since my kitchen,dining and living room are all one big open space, I see yellow, white and a marine blue (like the blue on flow blue plates).
I don't know if this has anything to do with astrology or is only my Sagittarian changeability but I see(want) a lot more color and a lot less palid neutrals.
posted on March 5, 2001 06:53:19 AM new
I am confused deco. Is this for the cottage / your space, or for your main house or for ex-business? VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 5, 2001 07:49:46 AM new
This is for my house mainly:pinks and lavender in the bedroom and bath and blues, yellow,white in the kitchen/living area. But then also in the cottage yellow in the work/computer room. I'll even let my Aries packer paint that room red if he wants! Just know I'm into color as opposed to neutrals all of a sudden.I'll still have a lot of white and some light wood paneling so I won't be completely devoid of neutrals.
posted on March 5, 2001 10:15:51 AM new
Well I tossed it around deco but I don't know about the color thing, probably because I am so bereft of decorating sense and completely lack sophistication in the land of the visual color wheel palette. What I do now is that besides your Mutable Sag Sun, your Moon in Virgo is also mutable and Neptune conjunct adds more changeability still, so a static environment probably does not suit you.
Also, T Mars is going to be in your 4th (home) for 3 more months, so lots of activity and motivation, do it now while you have the energy, otherwise fights at home. Mars needs to *do* something.
The other thing that I wonder about is your "ebay" cottage. It has occurred to me about 50 times that you may find that it becomes your become a inner sanction. Your "home" at home. It is okay if you work there, your Moon is in Virgo WORK, but my point is that you may be going from pleasing everyone (rental) to fixing your home (to please family and guests as well as yourself) to the real deal - the cottage - YOUR SPACE.
I think you may find that it becomes a place to retreat.
On the changing taste in general - T Uranus has just entered your 7th house
(venus house, venus = what looks pleasant to you)
and so this triggers your N Venus Uranus aspect.
So you are experimenting - your taste is being liberated / revolutionized.
Sounds like fun to me. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 5, 2001 11:43:10 AM new
Well, the health thing is one of those easy to ignore things. It stems from a problem I was born with, and I feel fine, but the dr told me that I feel fine because I don't know there is any other way to feel...in other words, I don't really feel fine - I just feel the way I always have.
posted on March 5, 2001 06:34:56 PM new
Gotcha loud and clear the first time, VM. But a rose by any other name still sounds sweet to me right now(who thinks it would be easier if my back door was revolving).
posted on March 7, 2001 03:48:08 AM new
Things seem to be really heating up here on the homefront and I wonder if that's the cause (not actually cause but affecting)of the future you talked about,VM.
As soon as I get a snail mail off to you today, I'd like you to put this on your waiting list. 4/5/42 Boston,Ma. 10:00 AM
posted on March 7, 2001 05:52:51 AM new
Happy to work with this chart deco - it's tasty yummmmm....
Is the time a guess?
Post area of focus if you want.
[email protected]
On your home - didya know that the Full Moon on the 9th is in Virgo conjunct your Moon?
Look for issues to be fully illuminated at least briefly, and a release after the fact.
It's a big one, the Full Moon is square Pluto and Mars in Sag.
People with mid degrees of mutable signs - heads up! VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 8, 2001 05:55:58 AM new
This is for the father of the twins who is interested in learning about astrology so I will include references.
The first thing to deal with is all this Leo. Mego Leo.
The reason is that if you are just starting out with astrology then you have probably read about your Sun sign Capricorn ---- lots of serious, and kind of dire hardship sensible stuff.
It is all true, but it is not all that is true.
The two things that strike me most are that you were born to parent and secondly that you have something to say and the means to say it and so this is what I will write about.
Now the Capricorn and Leo mix is a curious one (and I think beneficial) because Capricorn "grows up" by about 8 YO and Leo never grows up! What this means then is the thanks to the Leo, you are a Capricorn who can play, and thanks to the Capricorn, you are a Leo with a budget
Where "budget" refers to restraint on any level.
Leo arrogance is countered by Capricorn fear of worthiness.
Capricorn fear is countered by Jupiter in Leo conjunct the ascendent which is hugely optimistic and fortunate, even Cap has to admit it
This dynamic (expansion and restriction) is reinforced by putting your Cap sun in the 6th house (the Virgo house, frugal, not pretentious) to offset the Jupiter in Leo "LOOK AT ME I AM KING".
Now you may have some struggle swinging back and forth with this, and may feel embarrassed of your own self at times (Cap/Virgo cringe at Leo display) but Cap should appreciate the Big fun Leo / Jupiter in Leo provides. Not judge so harsh, because drama is as necessary as anything else, even math
This balance is excellent, and this is possibly one of the first ways that astrology can serve you... by showing you that you have the built in answers to your own troubles. Play now, pay later and vice versa but never does one run off with the life, so appreciate that, it is a natal promise.
Oh.. I forgot the parent thing..
Leo rising, so Sun rules the chart.
Sun in Capricorn, the father of the zodiac - the authority figure / provider.
PLUS Double Leo who thrives with children since they are one... they get on the floor and play with their kids...
PLUS Jupiter rising in Leo (BIG DAD), natural TEACHER (Jupiter) of children (Leo)
PLUS 6th house Sun, need to serve.
Without children you are a lost soul. You must have been like me some years back. "A father looking for kids."
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Now the second thing is your message. Appears to me that you have some serious writing skills. Probably a strong speaker also. With all this Leo, you could project from a stage and Jupiter rising is always a preacher in some form but it looks to me like you have everything you need to be published, probably after 35 YO.
For your study, I get this info like this...
Jupiter rising has something to say and a NEED to say it. Higher purpose.
For the writing skills, look to Mercury and your Sun and Venus are in the 6th house (Mercury house) [b] and you have 3 planets in your 3rd house (the other Mercury ruled house) and so a focus on writing is a given.
Last.. "publish" is 9th house / Jupiter thing and you have Saturn in the 9th.
Saturn is of course the ruler of your Capricorn Sun and so of increased importance and the after 35 comes from the fact that Capricorn does not really come into their own until later in life.
This does not mean you can write a book at 32, what it means is the one you write at 39 will be better. What Capricorn is a flash in the pan NOT.
For the record, if you publish with a 9th house Saturn, it will be a scholarly thing but by God with all this Leo your going to have your picture on that book and it won't be a thumbnail size.
posted on March 8, 2001 06:52:05 AM new
Still on the father of the twins...
I note that you have Mercury (ruler of Gemini / twins) in the 5th house children.
You know now that your sons have a profound dose of Gemini - Their ascendent, their Moon and Jupiter.
Gemini is always 2 for one but it truly grows exponentially when you have Gemini on top of Gemini on top of Gemini.
So the mega - Gemini twins = matched to your Mega Leo probably already have their own language but they are just getting started.
They have strong Cancer (Sun, Venus, Mars and Mercury in Cancer YOW!) and so there is a huge focus on family and the MOTHER. She has been left out of this equation so far, but that is an illusion, to these boys MOM rules and pity anyone who suggests otherwise. Tell your wife that she is "in" for the rest of her life and beyond. Her influence is enormous.
Okay, so back to all this Gemini.
They will write a family language in the vein like my Gem daughter shortened every word in life and it caught on in our family. We eat din, spa-get, and go to the libe, etc..
You will get something like this, and then they will have their own language and then their other own language and then a third and maybe a fourth.
Where some twins work to NOT be twins, your sons will not do this, they will be twins in every sense of the word. One evil at times, the other not and then trade places - trick you. The kind of twins who switch places and screw with people, not that they will ever tell you about it .
You will never ever ever be bored for the rest of your life.. you live with a crowd and from here these two will do nothing but multiply as they grow up.
The grand present for parents of Gem children is that almost universally excel in school Academically, yes, but also socially. They make friend in 2 seconds and this is a true gift for the parents.
On the flip side (a concept you will become very familiar with living with these two) you will the two sides of Gemini play... as my sister (has a Gem son) put it to me when my daughter was born "if you want some good behavior IN the house, invite the friends over".
Anyway - these kids are gonna soar with your Leo. Leo and Gemini are a famous mix and you will be hosting kids parties for sure, fun will be had and they will be happy.
The chart (essentially the same with 1 minute apart birth time)is very favorable. Make that extremely favorable. They are going to have very little trouble and same for you with them. They will have strong self esteem, high intelligence, and success in life, I can't see how this could NOT be.
The best thing you can do for them is feed the Gemini. Feed the Moon.
Lots of books, computers, educational everything, games. This is PLAY to them, and this is nurturing. Play is an intellectual thing, not a physical thing. Think "chess" at a very early age, exposure to multiple languages. They have EXTREME skill in the arena, prepare to marvel and be blown away.
Did I say "blown away?"
That is an understatement.
A major understatement.
posted on March 8, 2001 09:34:24 AM new
Thanks for the Moon Muriel!
This is for the Aquarian gal under terrific pressure. I will not id you, you can claim your chart if you want.
You have two major things going and they don't align worth a damn.
One is a freedom urge, a desire to break some rules. You really want to do something shocking, and you want to do it in 1 blink.
That is all good and fine, but you are simultaneously being restricted, quite severely I suspect by *reality* around your home and family. This is what I will focus on.
Why home and family?
T Saturn is opposing N Saturn in the 4th house (home and family) and squaring your Moon in Pisces (home and family)
This is a double whammy, and it may help to understand the cycle, if I can be so arrogant as to speak for the universe
What is going on here, is Saturn has a 28 year cycle and you are 1/2 through one of them.
At the conjunction you consolidate, and plan. (start)
At the square you tweak your plan. (7 years out)
At the opposition you see in full light how your plan has worked out. It is not "chickens coming home to roost" then, like at the conjunction aka "Karma time" it is a preview... (14 years)
To complete the cycle, there is the second square, time for another tweak (21 years)
and the it is "reap what you have sown at the next conjunction.
Okay, so I know you are having a difficult time, in fact I suspect it is supremely frightening and ouchy and do not mean to minimize that BUT.. the way to enjoy a modicum of relief is to take responsibility.
here is how.
#1. If you are doing a "why me, God" thing, stop.
It won't help. Instead work to see the answer in a practical, mature and earthy way.
Like if someone is drowning in debt, then maybe they spent too much. You see, there is no hope if they do not see a little factoid like that.
(this is an example, not personal to you, but you get my point)
#2. Don't feed your fear.
I know you are afraid but you do not want to become frozen there.
Instead, divert the energy into fostering a feeling of being competent because in fact you are.
#3 Clutch it up! During Saturn transits you (EVERYONE) is forced to grow up and behave in an ultra adult manner, deal with reality. Do not resist this, the sooner the better and you see quick relief, be able and empowered to work your way through it.
When you put this all together, Saturn and the Moon on the negative side you get huge fear and depression, but I do not think this is the desire of the universe.
The universe wants you to gain emotional maturity, control of your emotions not to heap pain on you because it is funny.
I know it is not funny.
The Moon has to do with feelings of security and when Saturn comes along we are deprived in some way.
For someone like you, this is all the more difficult because you were deprived when you were a child (shown by your Saturn Moon square) and so in essence what is happening is you are being triggered, reliving your feelings from long ago (the Moon, the roots) and so this exasperates the situation.
(an easier time would be had by someone without a hard aspect from Saturn to the Moon)
If you have been reading for awhile, this smacks or rawbunzel -- her Saturn transit of the Virgo making her N Saturn Moon conjunction ache.
Anyway... endurance is key and I know you have plenty of experience with that, and so I will leave it there.
Do know that you are in the peak of this now - June and then you will have survived (again), and you can get busy being liberated because next on tap is T Uranus on your Sun and you're gonna like it.
posted on March 8, 2001 10:00:04 AM new
Okay - same Aquarian gal...
I can't see definitively where your health problem (if you have one) but I have a few things to mention.
If is possible that the Saturn transit could bring a health problem and if this is the case...
Pisces Moon in the 8th house = possible hidden illness breasts / reproductive.
IOW see your gyno!
This is only possibility, can be your mother, your grandmother, we are talking about the Moon here, but this is the case, not just now, but throughout your life. You are at risk for hidden problem in these areas..
Anecdote is like for Kris above...
Stay on top of it.. see your gyno!
Outside of that, you have a Leo rising, (your body) Jupiter and Pluto conjunct and so you are one of those women with potential heart problems. T Uranus is aspecting, but this usually brings physical change and not necessarily ill health.
Last, you have Mercury in the 6th house (house that shows health) and so Mercury rules the lungs, but nothing is transiting so I think they are okay. That said - considering the situation - heart and lungs, you are one of those people who if you smoke are really playing with fire.
One more thing, just in general regarding your chart. I wanted say that it is very busy. Dynamic is the word and so you must live a dynamic life or suffer stress. What I mean is that you are not cut out to laze around. Go and do and be. That is the ticket for you. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 8, 2001 10:51:46 AM new
I thought I'd pop in an claim my chart! I am the aforementioned "father of twins" and just wanted to publically thank VM for the amount of time and effort she has put into preparing charts and answering questions. As she mentioned, I am just beginning to learn about Astrology so there is much I do not yet understand about the charts. However, VM did mention several things that left my jaw hanging wide open.
VM mentioned that I was born to parent, that I was a father looking for kids, etc. Absolutely true. I've wanted to be a father for as long as I can remember. The birth of our identical twin boys last June was perhaps the single most profound and amazing moment of my life (with the possible exception of the first time I laid eyes on my wife - but thats a very long, very mushy story). The twins are our first children and the last eight months have introduced me to feelings and emotions that I have never really experienced and find hard to verbalize. Its been difficult at times as well (both boys had colic which made the first few months very interesting!) but I can honestly say that I feel as though I have acheived everything I ever wanted - which, simply put, is a loving, caring family.
Anyway, I could go on all day about the twins and how deeply happy I am to be where I am but I'll refrain. I just wanted to say that the chart VM provided for me was amazing and has given me plenty to think about.
posted on March 8, 2001 11:45:04 AM new
Ahh, yes, chess. Chess has been a serious passion of mine for years. I've devoted countless hours to studying the game and have come to appreciate it as much more than a game. So imagine my delight when VM suggested that I "think chess" at an early age for the twins. There was, of course, no way for VM to know that I've already been thinking "chess" for the boys and hope that they acquire an appreciation for the game when they are older. But yet, there it was, as part of my chart.
And then there's writing. VM, what you wrote about my possibly being published sent a shiver down my spine. Guess who's been working on a novel on and off for the last year or so? DING! Me. However, since the twins were born, I've spent a good deal of time thinking that I want to write about being a father of twins. I haven't crystalized my thoughts into an outline yet but its been kicking around in my head.
VM also mentioned that I was probably a good speaker. Well, VM, care to take a guess what my favorite classes were in high school and college? Give yourself a gold star if you guessed Speech and Debate. I was one of the rare students who LOVED speaking in front of the class. I always volunteered to speak first and participated in many Speech and Debate tournaments.
Although I must admit, VM, your charts have left me speechless!
posted on March 8, 2001 11:50:04 AM new
Your timing is good on all counts fiset.
Capricorn very very rarely (almost never)has children too young. Takes parenting serious and so gets some security in the bag first aka post 28 yrs old.
On the publish, it is well within your ability and most likely occur during transit of that 9th house Saturn and / your Jupiter. IOW, it is waiting to happen and then it will.
posted on March 8, 2001 03:10:19 PM new
And I'm the Aquarian...
I'm not sure I understand about that 28 year cycle thing but you had me pegged with the freedom and restriction part. I am not a conformist yet I don't allow myself the complete freedom to cut loose for a variety of reasons. I'm fortunate that the tom understands my need for lots of space and he gives it to me. In return, I try not to embarrass him in public.
I'm not averse to change, in fact I thrive on it. I hate routine. However, the upcoming changes in my family's lives-retirement from the military, return to the US after more than a decade away, upcoming empty nest-have really unsettled me. These are major financial and lifestyle changes. That's bad enough but everything is up in the air right now to the point we don't even know where we're going in the US nor do we know where the money for the bills will come from.
Every time a major change occurred before, we've at least known where we were going. That was something to hang on to while everything else whirled around us. This time, though, I don't even have that and I hate feeling like control of my life is slipping through my fingers.
I've never considered my life odd or stressful, probably because I've never lived any other way. I think part of my fear of the shift in our lives is that I'm going to be taken from the life I've known, with all its weirdness, and plunked down into something the rest of y'all might consider normal and I won't know how to cope with that normalcy.
But I'm not one to weep and wail and beat my breast about things. I will do what is necessary to get through the day and take it one day at a time. I may not be able to control what happens, but I can control my response and not let it get to me.
As for the health thing, I've been seeing doctors(both family practice and gyn) and they're mystified by what's going on with me. Oh well, nothing new there. None of my past health problems were easy to diagnose either.
posted on March 8, 2001 03:48:20 PM new
Shadowcat - you are not going "normal", it is exactly the opposite!
I dealt with your Moon because you sounded pained and mentioned "family" and have the Saturn transit.
Your Aquarian Sun that craves change is receiving T Uranus March 2001.
You are just about to break out and never look back.
IOW you are going to be completely and utterly liberated and the time is NOW. The things that hold you back will be unable to restrain you much longer. You are goin' girl, and it is going to be FAST.
Revolution on the horizon!
It is all in what you ask. I go where you point me.
Bottom line - the respression lifts, it is replaced with freedom and you are on your way.
PS T Mars is in Sag conjunct your N Mars, you are revved and will be staying that way for 6 months.
