posted on March 7, 2001 06:18:12 AM newHow did Cain kill Abel? James, I think he whupped him up the side of the head with a frozen tuna. But then, it might have been a tortilla, I forget.
Our sense of morality in this nation comes from the Constitution, which is based on divine inspirations.
Uh Oh. You guys let this one by?
Reamond FWIW, I agree with you, but it seems like we just had this same discussion a couple of months ago.
posted on March 7, 2001 08:01:29 AM new"Raising an intellect to the mode of thinking, or angered name calling, shows the level of one's ability to effect people through the written word."
A remarkable similarity to the sorts of posts that sgtmike often makes. Remarkable.
You are suggesting that increased gun control is needed- how about football control? Or are those who died playing football somehow not as worthy of protection?
A new study from the National School Safety Center (NSSC) reported that there were 15 "school-associated deaths" caused by violent crime -- including guns -- during the 1999-2000 school year.
By comparison, 15 high school football players died during regular season and playoff games in 1999, according to the National Federation of State High School Associations.
posted on March 7, 2001 08:59:48 AM new
Frozen halibut works just as well as tuna.
Actually, the issue of "gun control" reminds me of the concept of self-moderation on chatboards. There are always going to be those who go off half cocked.
KatyD
now I'm not going to bring whales into this!
[ edited by KatyD on Mar 7, 2001 09:02 AM ]
posted on March 7, 2001 09:23:19 AM new
I just saw the arraignment on MSNBC of some kid, who was an honor student, that got in a fight with a group of other kids. He got into his car and mowed them down, killing 4 of them. This was on Feb. 23rd, in Santa Barbara CA. It's all on video tape.
The root of the problem needs to be addressed. It doesn't matter if kids have access to guns or not. If they feel like murdering, they will find a way. So why do they feel like murdering? I know why, but the obvious answer is very unpopular.
Instead of facing the hard truths, it's easier to blame this national curse on other things.
posted on March 7, 2001 10:43:41 AM new
Thanks to my conditioning to peruse documents, I have saved myself from having to retract a commendation (kudo).
I briefly scanned some of the posts made on this topic and was about to commend krs for some very good rebuttals to those comments in favor of gun control and their blaming of an inanimate object for the sickness of certain individuals.
However, and being the norm, he was unable to hold a positive posture and fell out of the groove. He, for no understandable reason, had to “dis” me even though I had not yet posted.
Therefore, all kudos are hereby retracted before being posted.
PS: I suspect that krs' knowledge regarding firearms is only what he obtains from reading "Shotgun News."
posted on March 7, 2001 07:54:26 PM new
I really think we will see alternatives to firearms soon because of advances in materials science and electronics.
I have been playing with a hand weapon that throws a 3/8 dowl pin using three nestled die springs so it would not be a firearm.
It makes you realize how the small improvements add up over time to make common products very usable, because it is not.
It is acceptably accurate at 15 meters and will penetrate a concrete block or half way through a Detroit phone book, but the shock when the springs hit the stop makes your whole hand sting from the snap. Like holding a chisel and hitting it with a hammer. And the sound is as loud as a .22 short. The sear wears very fast. It takes about 3 seconds to rewind with a two horse motor so it is really slow. Also I am using an external motor right now just for a prototype, and am not sure I can get it light enough to be practical.
I think I will give up on this route and go to direct electrical propulsion with multiple electromagnets and metal hydride batteries. That way you should be able to sustain fire at a reasonable rate until the coils are too hot to hold - which is a problem with chemical propellants also. And if I keep it subsonic it will be easier on the ears.
posted on March 8, 2001 04:08:32 AM new
A quick review of your own State gun laws may prove the answer to why these bizarre events happen. NY State has one of the toughest gun laws. Most of the illegal guns come from the south. Maybe changing those laws would help. This isn't meant to point fingers at any state in particular, just to show a weakness in state laws and firearms are (not called guns in my world they are treated with respect and called firearms).
[ edited by Empires on Mar 8, 2001 04:10 AM ]
