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 kcpick4u
 
posted on March 8, 2001 07:17:26 PM
VM

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 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 07:38:03 AM
This is for "the artist formally known as..."

There is a tight grand trine in Water across the Water sign houses involving the Sun, Mercury in Scorpio, Cancer Moon (ruler) and Jupiter Neptune conjunct in Scorpio.
This is an awesome configuration, blinding even. Very frankly I would be a little pissed off about if the universe was not kind enough (it was) to insert at least one cosmic joke into his life.
I am going to spend some time on the trine, because I would be hard pressed to find one finer, the sky just doesn't set up like this very often. Almost never.

Here come the gifts.

The thing with this guy, with this trine, is forget about challenging him on his turf, and his turf is the emotional world. He is in his own class. It reminds me of the one of the Indiana Jones movie. The scene where someone is attacking Indiana with some numchuks(sp?) type weapon and Jones whips out a big gun and shoots him dead.
"The artist formally known as" is armed is such a way that he cannot be taken out.

Here is how it works.
I have written over and over, look to the Moon for the quality of life, and his Moon feels GREAT.
Moon is in Cancer which is it's preference, the sign it rules, and it is nearly constantly fed via the trines. Think of being born equipped with pipes supplying everything you need as opposed to cut off from this, or barely enough, not enough of that.

Via the trines to the Moon, to Sun, Mercury, Jupiter and Neptune -

He feels good about who he is (the Sun) what he thinks, his ideas, how he communicates, what he communicates (Mercury) .
In the other direction - he feels good about his beliefs, his future, his God, his education (Jupiter and Neptune)

This is a great fortune here, but all of these planets feed each other in the reverse also.

Works like this..

"The artist formally..." has Jupiter and Neptune trine the Sun and Moon.
This means that spiritual beliefs (Jupiter, Neptune) easily support the life force (Sun) and the emotional life (Moon).
Think that is a given?
Think again.
Jupiter Neptune square the Sun - and you have someone whose religion attacks their vital life energy.
There are 100 scenarios like that, (a rule-breaker by nature, saddled with restrictive religious beliefs) - pick one, but my point is that this guy does not suffer.
Damnit!
Say you want to take him out?
You kick him "here' and he says "oooh feels great..." I mean chances are that where ever you go, you set off his trine and this makes this guy a danger.
With these tools and this much power, what is the guy going to do and what is he going to be, because if it is nasty, how are we going to stop him?

Long time readers may recall my hair lady's son who could not help but land on his feet.
Page 34 on Full Moon @ Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:44:58 -0800
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=44316&id=59091

This is a similar (not same) situation, except the gifts of the artist formally known of are even more profound via the Water trine in water houses.

So what else can this trine do?
He has the water trinity covered. Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces by sign and by house. This gives huge psychic sensitivity. Not a little, not a lot, a mother load, and it extends to all corners.

Can he read the collective / trends - yes he can. See people naked? See the future? Yep, that too. He can read a person in 2 seconds. What he has is astounding emotional intelligence.

So if every gift is a curse (it is) then where is the curse here?

The major thing is that this trine provides a place to hide. Some astrologers come right out and say a trine like this makes a person "lazy". I stop short of that, but appreciate what they mean.

Take Shadowcat above..
She will be forced to grow and this is too her benefit. The curse as a gift.
To grow in a similar fashion, the artist formally known as.. would have to seek an opportunity which is *not* usual for someone with a trine like this. In that sense, the trine is a trap. Poor little rich kid syndrome you could say.

How are you going to change your life if you are lying in a hammock in the back yard? What is going to motivate you when it's so comfortable? And what about humility? How can you access any when you don't know how much harder most people have to work in their life.

I am not saying this is a life without challenge. I am saying that this is a life with superior tools.


To be continued...
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 08:15:21 AM
Okay, I am still talking...
Sun and Mercury are in Pisces in the 8th house (Scorpio) opposed by Pluto (Scorpio).
The 8th house is prone to obsess. Sun in the 8th to obsessive behavior, action, Mercury in the 8th to obsessive thoughts.
This guy is a surgeon.
He has access to extreme reserves of power for good or ill. If he decides to cut you expect a serious result. By no stretch is this to be assumed to be negative.
Power is energy. Potent, but neutral until applied, and some cuts heal.
In fact, some parts of life are doomed to poison and cause pain UNTIL they are cut open and shown the light of day. If you are living with something like that, then it takes someone like this to effect a release.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 09:57:30 AM
Okay so where is the cosmic joke?
Well, if you are me, then you think it is terrifically funny when people clammer to be in a relationship only to immediately freak and want out.
I have this amusing, and torturous dilemma myself, but "the artist formally known as..." has it much worse than I do and so this pleases me. I never said that I was not slightly evil
I mean, there has got to be a way to annoy this guy, right?
Talk about his mother?
Nope. That won't do it.
His sex life?
No. He has one. In fact, his Mars is exalted in Capricorn and so he is likely to have one into his very old age. After you are dead, he is still bangin' away.
Double drat and damnit again!
See, most people you can hammer over here and when they rush to defend - stick your shiv there but this guy has no exposure.
Even this love thing will not cause him horrible duress because he can run that trine for shelter, but it is a large, not removable pebble in his shoe, so lets talk about it

to be continued...
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 11:35:30 AM
So this Venus / love thing is a triple whammy with a twist.
First the triple whammy - it goes like this:

Venus in the 7th house is excellently placed because Venus rules the 7th.
Venus in Aquarius = shocking, original, innovative art.
Venus in the 7th wants to be in a relationship. It is not pleased if single, unattached, it wants to be part of a "we" and the drive is fierce.
Venus in Aquarius deplores the idea of dependence, adores the idea of independence to the extreme which makes relationship exceedingly difficult.
the artist formally known as... has Venus in Aquarius PLUS Aquarius ruling the 7th Venus house, PLUS Uranus opposite same Venus and the result

So what happens is 7th house Venus goes out and get themselves into a relationship. This takes approximately 3 seconds because Venus is so strongly placed in the 7th and in Aquarius what the artist formally known as... looks like is an instant partner. People see him and say "I want to marry *THAT*.
The dilemma here is that this is based on a *notion* and not especially long lasting.
IOW infatuation on both sides can (does) come and go very quickly and also, they attract (and are attracted to) the strangest folk. The point here is to surprise and break rules.

Now if Venus in Aquarius IS caught the immediate thing to do is look for the door. The only way to avoid this (and the impulse will still be there, just maybe possibly manageable) is to marry your FRIEND or someone who is gone and I mean gone a lot.
Stephen Arroyo notes in one of his books that he used to work (as an astrologer) near an Army base and so had many military wives as clients. What he found was that overwhelmingly they had Uranus/Aquarius tied up with Venus. Seems on average the husbands were gone 7 mos a year and so this left only 5 months of marriage per year for the wife to have to tolerate

On that note, I was picking up my daughter from school yesterday and overheard a conversation. Someone's husband broke his clavicle and will be home from work for 3 months. It is day 2 and the wife is freaking out, "what am I gonna do with this SOB home all day!!!?" She was hyper ventilating and that is Venus in Aquarius talking. I did not say anything but I was thinking "you may need to divorce..."

Anyway, it is hard to be in a relationship (unless you share these qualities, and even then it is a challenge) with Venus in Aquarius because they are easily bored and love to shock the partner.
I have an example.
2 days before my (first) wedding, I went and bought a new truck.
I just stopped on my way home from work and bought it. I thought about this for exactly 2 seconds. I was on my way home and I thought "I could buy a truck" and so made a U-turn. I had a great time.
I was chatting up the salesman how I was getting married on Saturday (this was Thursday) and he asked "do you need to call him" which made me laugh.
"To hell with him - I am not married yet!"
Anyway, this was a last act of defiance. I wanted him to know that I would not be tolerating restriction. I pulled into the driveway in this truck honking and waving - made a big scene and got married 2 days later on April Fools day, another nose thumbing at tradition.
Note that Uranus is rebelling against NOTHING. There is no law saying not to marry April 1st, it is just not the norm and so that is the appeal. My point is that this is fun, but on the flip, it is shock for the sake of shock, not much else. My husband had Uranus on the 7th also and so believed (fervently) in freedom for the partner, so again --- why disrupt? Well, no reason really. I just loathe plainness (?)
No really with Venus in Aquarius - a millisecond after that there is "love" there is an impulse to rebel and this is rough on relationship, both for Venus and the partner.

The Internet has helped Venus in Aquarius folk quite a bit... something without restriction to love, and what happens if you have this problem and a bit of luck (rawbunzels) is you marry your friend and tell yourself (often you have to do this daily) not to bolt. It works, but it is not peaceful by a shot.

The other thing, is you want someone unusual.
My first husband was 6'7", my second husband lived in a shack with a stereo that cost more than his house and my current husband who I refuse to marry (but Venus in Leo has a ring) is a red haired Taurus who drew "Dark Star Trek" and so enough said.

But, I blather, and I best get back to the artist formally known as, because did you notice?
He has a Ego rising, I mean Leo rising and so I suspect that he prefers to hear about himself.

to be continued

VeryModern Space Junk

edit because I wrote "weeks" and meant "months"
[ edited by VeryModern on Mar 9, 2001 02:38 PM ]
 
 deco100
 
posted on March 9, 2001 11:47:16 AM
Low blow-this is not one of your discreet days?

 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:18:00 PM
oh deco... not to worry.
No, no, no, it was not a low blow. I am not being cruel.

I am writing for the artist formally known as...
and feel very confident that he will he laugh at the joke, and not be injured. Not at all.

In fact, I expect he will be highly pleased and I hope that he will reveal himself because then so will everyone else.


VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:25:57 PM
and for the record.... I promised this deco.

See the "artist formally known as..." is an intimidating sort. Formidable.
I promised to lay it out, but I am not meaning to cause harm. Please believe me the artist formally known as... is fragile NOT.
I have wrote on about 100 charts on this board and not once intended to mock or cause harm.
The artist formally known as... has a Leo rising and so appreciates drama, and understands that any press is good press. The tough part is when people are *not* talking.

Last, I have Venus in Ego myself and so this is what happens. I start talking about ME! Consider two actor trying to upstage each other. Comical really.
I am trying to have a bit of fun is all.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 deco100
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:32:11 PM
Easy,easy, VM, just funnin' you! Us Leo risings have to stick together, ya know!

As for the problem with NOT talking, been running into that a little lately too and it is NOT fun!

 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:36:37 PM
Whew! wee-weif deco!

Then you see that he is likely standing in the shadows wondering how best to make his entrance, take his bow(s), and the crowd roars!
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:40:26 PM
me?
I think I will just keep heapin' it on until he can stay backstage no longer. heh heh heh.
Of course this could backfire on me and I could get the Scorpio treatment, but hell...

Have you had a look at my trines?
I believe would survive.

VeryModern Space Junk

[ edited by VeryModern on Mar 9, 2001 12:41 PM ]
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:49:53 PM
So deco...
Wanna hear sumpthin' funny.

The artist formally known as.. emailed me.

There was birth data and the note said "you know who I am, right?"

LOL!

Thing is - I DID know who he was, but please, this is an ego, do you think? I LMAO.



Disclaimer... I have Venus in Leo and think that "ego" is a grand, grand thing. I am not mocking or otherwise disrespecting those will high opinion of self


VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:51:32 PM
dble post, sorry!
[ edited by VeryModern on Mar 9, 2001 12:52 PM ]
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 12:55:28 PM
oh yeah, and..
I have not stated it, but I will take the id of the artist formally known as to my grave should he choose to remain anonymous.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 01:51:31 PM
So where is the "twist" in the ultra non-committal Venus profile?
Same Venus is square both Neptune and Jupiter. I am not to go into this too far because I wrote extensively on my page about it.

I live with the square myself, and bottom line, Venus with Neptoon is a fool in love.
An inspired fool maybe, but a fool is a fool.
The artist formally known as... can read there and laugh, because he will surely recall having sacrificed himself in the name of love, as well as sacrificing past lovers when they invariably lose the supernatural luster and desirability that he imbued them with in the beginning.
IOW - real, day in and day out love relationships are for the birds. Venus Neptune goes for the ultra romantic fantasy, followed by the inevitable disillusionment, and devastation. They set this up again and again and again each time thinking "this one'll be real" rarely comprehending that REAL is not what they are looking for.
What does Jupiter bring to this?
Makes it BIGGER than life. It goes from "deluded in love" to "HUGELY deluded in love" and this is the life challenge (along with management of power to harm or to heal).

Now, the artist formally known as... may or may not immediately relate to this. It is real and it occurs (not once, not twice, but over and over and over and over) but there are two obstacles to seeing and dealing with this.

First, by their nature, Neptune problems are obscure. Like the alcoholic again. The Venus Neptune person really thinks that the next dreamy love the fall into will be real, just like the alcoholic thinks they will stop drinking next day, next week.
The astrologer is mistaken, see.
Their dreamy un-real love is REAL and the poor astrologer has simply made an error, miscalculated, or poor thing, maybe they are just not aware of heavenly love in the first place.

To that I say "whatever" but I do appreciate folks like cmbtboots who own the fact that they dump a man for farting. That is what I call getting real about not accepting reality in love.

The other dilemma here is grand trine again. Why look at the love troubles when you feel so good?
Call it a very very highly functioning alcoholic. What problem? There is no problem here?

Well it can go that way for awhile (kind of) but hoo-boy, when a transit comes along and hits this mess, shocking (Uranus) lies (Neptune) fly!
So what you get is the divine pain from the disillusionment but after awhile, fine pain doesn't feel so good anymore. Like any other addict. It is decidedly NOT fun to take your 25th drink of the day.

I am coming back with Saturn transit and then be done. The artist formally known as... can email questions if they exist, if this is his preference.

Alternately, Leo King can order my head cut off (this is a joke) in which case I will promptly grow two more
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 02:54:29 PM
Venus in Aquarius refresher course...
Remember my dble Aquarius pal with the Libra Moon? The one suffered from Libra disease of indecisiveness and could not decide whether to shave her legs or NOT and so shaved one?
9 months later she was still living with one shaved leg, still deciding you know.
Anyhow we teamed up (a bizarre partner to me) and then the night we met Shack Man she saw the Taurus rock climber in a bar and this got her hot.

So.... she approached him and without even saying hello, began to belt out the Chicken Song which is I lack the lyrics to, but it begins "BOCK BOCK BOCK I'M A CHICKEN!" and before she got to the third BOCK the Taurus was in love.

See the poor guy had Venus in Aquarius, and was putty in her hands.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 9, 2001 03:21:33 PM
Venus sq Neptune = the smoker who tells a potential long distance lover that they do not smoke in an effort to appear the ideal romantic vision, and also because they are deluding themselves regrading their plans to quit next week.

The flip of this?

The athlete who falls in love with a smoker who pretends he/she does not smoke and commences to "erase" the reality of the ashes here and there in the beloved's home.

Have I lived both sides of this?
Do you have to ask? LOL!

I am better now, but I could be deluding myself

VeryModern Space Junk
 
 dejavu
 
posted on March 9, 2001 03:29:31 PM
Thanks for not warning me about all these *fun* things.

 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 08:56:32 AM
Good Morning!
I am going to come back with the finale on the chart of the artist formally known as... but want to offer this for the double Leo gal whose chart makes me think of a very shiny penny.
So shiny that where ever it lands it will be seen, bring a smile, and be picked up.
I will not id her, she can claim her chart if she chooses.

Now your deal is very simple to see - I am going to tell you a few things and for the rest of your life you can take 'em to the bank.
Your Sun, and your Ascendent are on top each other.
Leo rising, ruled by the Sun and your Sun is in Leo exactly conjunct. How close?
Ascendent @ 21 Leo 31
Sun @ 21 Leo 26
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and by the way - Sun in Leo is ruler, Ruler of the chart is in the in the sign of it's ruler - this very very good - strong life force.

Plus... your Moon is at 4 Virgo, just 13 degrees from your Sun rising, and what this means is that when things occur in your life they are gonna be BIG, never small.
2 reasons.
First because Leo bigger than life and second because these 3 major points in your chart are placed so closely.

IOW events are shown by transits to your planets and so what happens is a planet comes along and hits that Leo Sun/rising KA-BAM! and then you go a short little stretch and hit your Moon (emotion).
You might say that this is when the *feelings* register (when your Moon gets transited) regarding what has just occurred in your life. It makes me think of a big bump in the road and then another major one dead ahead, but this works in your favor as often as otherwise, and I will get to that.

At the moment you have two major transits and so I am not sure which one is giving you all the grief, or the most grief, so I will outline them both and hopefully this will give you a perspective. Kind of like a knot no longer being a knot if you can untie the sucker!

The first thing you have is T Saturn sq your Moon. As I have written repeatedly - Saturn and the Moon do NOT agree. Repressed emotion, emotional pain, etc........ this is not pleasant.
In your case, the "stage" your natal Saturn is TRINE your Moon and so it is easier for you than most (and I am sure it does not feel EASY) but.... consider Shadowcat above whose has to cope with a natal square being activated.

The deal with this is anyone who has Saturn tied up with their Moon in anyway has suffered some sort of deprivation in their childhood. They are carrying a family wound. A person with a square did not necessarily have a "worse" event(s) it is how whatever happened gets internalized.
This is just how life is. You have two children in one family and they both suffer (say they lose their house in a fire) the same fate but it affects them differently.

Now on the fire thing, one child may be mortally afraid of being homeless, losing their "roots" and the other may also be afraid but just live in a brick house and purchase insurance... IOW, manageable fear. You have manageable fear. Fear that is easier to master.

Okay.. so you have this going on - Saturn sq the Moon and it manifests (always) to depression to some extent, restriction at home, low mood, sometimes people move into a smaller house. One way or the other, emotional pain is introduced into the life that is relived (and only relieved) by accepting responsibility --- see above Shadowcat as to practical steps to take.

Timing on this is nearly the same as above also, your Moon is @ 4 Virgo, hers @ 5 Pisces (these signs oppose) and so you get relief, and 2 weeks or so later, her turn.

It will get worse before it gets better, (late April, early May is the peak) but it will also be easier in a sense because you will have come to terms with the problem and once you can do that, it becomes a matter of endurance. Enduring something is wholly more endurable if you realize that it will not go on forever, and it will not - you are clear June 1 and will be much wiser for the experience.

Okay... switching gears, you also have chaos. The deal with this is change, which as a double Leo (fixed sign) you don't freakin' like it, and I expect this may cause you more grief then the Saturn transit, but not if you adjust your perspective on it.

Remember your Sun/ascendent at 21 Leo? heh heh heh T Uranus is at 21 Aquarius TODAY, which is an exact opposition, spinning on your head.

How does this manifest? Disruption. Major major major major change and fast.
This has to do with your marriage - the partner an what you have is a HUGE BIGGER than LIFE urge for freedom. What you are going to do is revolutionize your marriage.

interlude
it is quote interesting how you are the opposite of Shadowcat btw
your Moon in Virgo @4, hers in Pisces @ 5
Your Sun in Leo @ 21, her Sun opposite yours @ Aquarius 23
I will not id you, but perhaps you can email her private so you are known to her..
You have much to show each other.

end of interlude

Okay, so being double Leo fixed you may say "I don't need change" and you also have a packed 2nd house (Taurus) who says "I like myself the way I am" BUT the fact is that you have outgrown your way of relating to your partner and so you are going to push the envelope and claim increased freedom and anyone who stops you can be damned.

Bottom line here is like I have been writing... we do have a future that is distinctly ours and to get to it we have to lose this or try that or change that, along the way. You are going to be "experimenting" in relationship not just this week, but for the next 5 years or so. Mark my words, any rule imposed on you in this arena will be swiftly broken. This will be going on for 5 yrs, BUT it will not be as intense, once it moves off your Leo, you are in the total throes of this on this DAY. In case you are wondering if you will ever sleep again, the answer is YES, but not this week : )

Back to the artist formally known as... this is cosmic joke for all Leo risings...
They like to live like Kings and Queens which of course are regal and do not act out, but invariably they marry some weirdo (best sense of the word) and then freak when the partner acts weird. The truth is that the King/Queen maybe regal, but nothing makes them more *alive* then a mouse in the house.

(ps you may also get hit with a sudden change in fortune but.. keep reading)

One last thing.

Mark this crap on you calender....
When JUPITER goes into LEO you get the gold babe.
You sneeze and you win.. Stupid lucky.
When?
Jupiter enters Leo August 2002 and that is the beginning of how you will be swept up UP UP!
July 2003 it will be at your degrees - (birthday month 2003 will be one of the best of your life)your Sun ascendent I mean, and then September 2003 it hits your Moon.
Because your have N Jupiter in Libra (Venus/money sign) conjunct Uranus (sudden unexpected) in the 2nd house (Venus money house) - well this is not rocket science - that spells sudden windfall love and money to me..
and then you can take the Jupiter (expansion) on the Moon (home) and get the big house, expand your house and FEEL Marvelous...

also... after the transit to your Moon, it hits your Libra planets and so bottom line - hang in because the rain will stop and when it does you get a good long run.

Oh yeah... how it works in your favor - I said I would explain.
With the Jupiter thing, you get feeling optimistic and then you get a big boost and you think that is it but then your get another and after than 3 more and the last planet anything hits is Jupiter and so anything you ever ever endure or enjoy, will always always end with an opportunity to expand, and that, shiny penny, is a very nice situation.

Be well.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 11:34:57 AM
Okay - back to the artist formally known as...
Pisces Sun, and Mercury will be transited by Saturn in Gemini - to be felt by the end of April this year and extend into April next year.

The universe prefers that we be aware of our age and so reminds us that we are getting older in various ways at various times. Example, I am a long time reader of Vanity Fair and it all of the sudden dawns on me that people post 25YO very rarely appear on the cover anymore so perhaps I am outgrowing the publication. ??

This can be considered a kindness from the universe if you stay aware of how wholly ridiculous people who are 50 but act 17 are. You can be glad that this is not you, and if it is, then a transit from Saturn to the sun will straighten it all out.

The result of the transit is to make you a marvelous *adult* and so first you have to be made aware of your current age and then you can decide what is appropriate behavior (the Sun "acts" and in the case of Mercury --- you will be encouraged to write and communicate in a mature way , perhaps to made to restrain yourself at times.

The Saturn Mercury transit is a strange one. I am (obviously) a writing fool but when T Saturn is leaning on my mercury, I have terrible difficulty. My experience is that I am MADE to write but have to go over and over and over it and it is terribly difficult and SLOW. Saturn slows life to a stinking crawl.
In whatever way, it is like word police over your shoulder and you have to use *caution* or take extra care in some way over what you say.
Say Jupiter on Mercury - BIG TALK (you have this natally by the way - part of your grand trine) contrast to Saturn with Mercury - don't say it if you can't back it up, if it is not a mature and adult thing to do, etc.. etc.. Grown up Talk!

Okay --- to zero in closer, since your Sun and Mercury are in the 8th house, there is always a chance that, well a good chance that death will figure into this some way. The Sun is a man and so a man (Mercury has is dual sex but rules siblings and neighbors) may die in your world and so this is what makes you say "holy cow, I may be next..." and so become aware of your age in a new, more serious (Saturn) way. This can be literal or otherwise, but be assured if your male neighbor dies you will relate to this personally - take it in and take it on.

I have been writing recently about Saturn on the Moon / the mother and so this is the flip of that - it is the male side of life that is affects .. you will FEEEEEEL fine as is pretty much guaranteed for you.

Most people do like Saturn on their damned Sun but you will not escape so the way to align is to see sooner rather than later that there is a need to conduct yourself in a "do the right thing / adult-like / no tantrums" type way and any trouble you have will be relieved. Resistance is futile, but go ahead and try if you want to see if I am lyin' to you.

Natal Saturn (the stage) is in the 5th house (children and fun) and very well aspected so this bodes well for a more tolerable time. If you do not have children, this is a time you may mourn that, and if you do, expect they cause you some pain. See either way - same medicine, and it is easier to swallow if you understand the purpose which is to grow you up just a little bit more.

Please post questions if you have them.

Be well artist formally known as...
This has been fun.

VeryModern Space Junk [ edited by VeryModern on Mar 10, 2001 11:36 AM ]
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 01:25:09 PM
I just wanted to clarify the shiny penny thing in case the reference is more personal than I imagine and so possibly misunderstood.

To me, there is nothing in the world like a shiny penny.
To spot one, or to hold one in your hand is to feel the joy of a child and so because of this, the appeal of a shiny penny is most irresistible.

Shiny penny = forever young and anyone nearby gets to feel a piece of that.

This is what it is like to stand next to this gal.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 03:24:00 PM
deco - you're on deck!
Thanks for the snail mail, I surely appreciate it.
Will probably be able to post tomorrow provided that it is fit to print (publicly). I do know how sensitive you are . One misstatement and blood everywhere.

No I am not licking my chops.
Why would you think that??
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 03:48:55 PM
deco - I just put the chart up <snort>

I will write tomorrow but here are a few tasty morsels for your pleasure.

Uranus conjunct ascendent LOL
Moon Pluto square Mars LOL
Saturn oppose Aries -- uh uh sq the Uranus/Asc.
LOLOLOLOL!!

I also note Capricorn on the 7th and Saturn in Libra LOLOLOLOL..
I will elaborate on all of this tomorrow, but the travel..

Look at the 9th house (international travel) note the cusp (Aquarius, ruled by Uranus, sudden and shocking) and know that T Uranus TODAY is at 21 Aquarius and so that pretty much explains that.

Oh.. and the stage.. well N Uranus is on the ascendent - the ME not the WE.

I Love Space Junk!

Post me (private if you want) regarding direction you want me to take, to write about, because this chart is very easy reading.
Otherwise I will just wing it and enjoy the flight for sure.


VeryModern Space Junk
 
 deco100
 
posted on March 10, 2001 07:37:18 PM
I know you're licking your chops, after all you said it was yummy the other day.

Anyway that chart is for Cookiestwo so I can't take offense at anything said anyway.

Looking for a Saturn return? Otherwise just wing it and have fun!

Re: Sagittarius and the womb bit. Today I was reading real estate ads for wombs farther away!LOL!!



 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 07:39:46 PM
Cookiestwo, huh?
Now I am sorry I edited out the quip about baking cookies with the tasty morsels.

I will not be offensive.
I will not be offensive.
I will not be offensive.
I will not be offensive.
I will not be offensive.
I will not be offensive.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 07:42:57 PM
Yikes! Typo! I looked at the chart thinking "what Saturn return?" and I made a typo.
Sorry!
All quips are null and void!
Sorry. I typed the wrong year!

Will regroup.
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 07:46:28 PM
oh deco - how bizarre!
I have the chart right now, and it retains the Aquarius ruled 9th house.
T Uranus has just crossed into the 9th, so I do not have to hang my head in shame!
Hooray!
VeryModern Space Junk
 
 deco100
 
posted on March 10, 2001 07:53:01 PM
Maybe none, I don't know. YOU'RE the astrologer!!!LOL LOL LOL

Here's a clue. He was born at 10:00 AM on Easter Sunday (4/5/42) and I was born at 10:00 PM on Thanksgiving Day,both holidays that fall on the same day but not the same date each year. So he's had about 3 birthdays and I've had about 10 (times it actually hit the holiday).

 
 deco100
 
posted on March 10, 2001 08:03:30 PM
Can you say immature? Maybe that's why we've gotten along so good for 26 years on and off. When it's on it's pretty calm for 2 fire signs but never dull. When it's off, space is required and thats in miles literally.

 
 VeryModern
 
posted on March 10, 2001 08:15:52 PM
Okay..,
Re: the travel urge..

T Mars is in Sag, hotting up the Sag Moon. Let's GO!
PLUS
T Uranus enters the 9th house triggering spontaneous urge to travel (int'l) independently
PLUS
Jupiter is in Gemini coming to conjunct N Jupiter Mars in the 12th --

That is a triple whammy saying Get On a Plane!


PLUS...
Transit of mars activates N Mars (the stage) which is conjunct Jupiter (let's go!)
PLUS
Transit of Uranus activates Natal Uranus in the 11th (the stage) which is independent.

And this deco is why cookiestwo wants to do what cookiestwo wants to do.

One more...
T Saturn has been spinning in Taurus on cookiestwo Uranus IOW pinning him to the wall, Saturn restriction / Uranus freedom.

Saturn is moving out of Taurus and into Gemini, off his head - he sees a window and wants to break out. First opportunity.

NONE of this is personal to you and if you start cultivating that idea, you can find a new focus. I mean look at this chart going off. 6 reasons to travel, NO reasons not too..

back tomorrow!
but first this:
yes - I see T Saturn going into the 12th and yes this will cause some grief but not YET! Jupiter is in Gem leading the way so he is a happy sailor dancing on a sinking ship, but oh well!? Plenty of time for pain, when Saturn hits his Gem and Sag...

Ask him "aren't you gone yet?"

Anyway - you have T Uranus in your 7th and so if he does what he wants to do, then Leo says Yikes, what will the constituents (the folks in the kingdom) think, but I think you may find you quite like it.

YOU = T Uranus in the 7th = experimental relationship, detached, etc...
I really mean this - he is encouraging and allowing for YOUR liberation.

disclaimer - if this is too much astro-code, please advise. I am tired and thinking well, but writing sloppy, but it is so much fun!
Oh yeah... and your T of Uranus through the 7th sets off YOUR natal Uranus (stage) which is opp. Venus so see you have a double whammy yourself.
Freedom in relationship - this is the resounding message and the band is not done playing because T Uranus is headed towards cookiestwo Venus in Aquarius shortly.

I dunno deco.
I smell a theme.

VeryModern Space Junk
 
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