posted on March 15, 2001 05:19:49 PM
Sorry anais! I am working with your chart (printed) next to my computer and I have "green" assigned to the easy aspects.
posted on March 16, 2001 08:48:27 AM
VM, I like your pot analogy. I didn't pen the phrase, "dark night o the soul". I believe CG Jung did.
[b]A Grand Cross is not common in a chart and is considered to be both highly dynamic and difficult. I do hope that by now you have got a peek at your chart....
The grand cross is the square in red and acts like 4 parties - all inflamed by each other.[/b]
I've lived this, no doubt. I am not very fond of my Virgo and Pices, although very emotional kind, sweet and loving gets me in lots of trouble or at least it feels that way. I often refer to the devil on my left shoulder and the angel on the right. They argue and I hate it when the devil wins. My Virgo seems to be very critical and overly concerned with every little detail. Nitpicky and unrelenting. OTOH, Virgo is responsible for my success as a Quality Assurance Administrator. Also explains my proclivity to be a neat freak who irons bed linens and my husband's underwear. Am I understanding this at all?
Another thing that comes to mind is my impulsiveness. I spend a good two hours on the check book and budgeting every month to make sure we can make it from payday to payday. A friend comes over and she is crying. She can't make her payroll. No problem. I haven't paid my mortage and other bills. I write her a check that cleans out our bank account. I kept 50.00. We have 10 days left until another paycheck comes.
She leaves, I'm happy that I could help. I love her, she is a good friend. Two hours later I am in an absolute panic. All the "What Ifs" come into play. I was an absolute wreck for two weeks wondering if she could actually repay the money so I could pay all my bills. In other words, Virgo was screaming her head off.
This is just one recent example. I have lived through many instances like this. I have often wondered why in the world I would be so schizoid!!!!
I'll be back. My DH is home sick. Oh Lord!!!!!! A sick Cancerian!
posted on March 16, 2001 10:07:50 AM I didn't pen the phrase, "dark night o the soul". I believe CG Jung did.
Well, I wrote way back on Full Moon that I thought I would be famous after I was dead, so maybe - just maybe, "pot time" will catch on.
Everybody get in the pot, stay in the pot
A pot for every one of us!
I am writing my legacy... LOL!
Nitpicky and unrelenting. OTOH, Virgo is responsible for my success as a Quality Assurance Administrator. Also explains my proclivity to be a neat freak who irons bed linens and my husband's underwear. Am I understanding this at all?
Yes! You're on it!
Another thing that comes to mind is my impulsiveness. I spend a good two hours on the check book and budgeting every month to make sure we can make it from payday to payday. A friend comes over and she is crying. She can't make her payroll. No problem. I haven't paid my mortage and other bills. I write her a check that cleans out our bank account. I kept 50.00. We have 10 days left until another paycheck comes.
Great example --- this is your cross... not Virgo, and here is how it goes
. (your cross = Uranus sq Moon Jupiter sq Sun in Cap sq Saturn, which of course is sq Uranus completely the cross.
(Note that Virgo Pisces is a separate dynamic.
Anyway... here is how the cross works..
Uranus (impulsive / sudden/ unexpected) squares Jupiter Moon (Generous, also sacrifice's self) and so that is the giving. See, it is not just Pisces giving, it is giving in 2 blinks courtesy of Uranus.
Then Capricorn sq Saturn (very conservative, thinks this chick should pull herself up by her bootstraps) starts in sure that the result will be DOOM.
See, Virgo worries, they worry a lot, but Virgo is flitty. Mercurial Girl!
It is Cap and Saturn who thinks that it is going to start raining and never ever ever ever stop and that you are going to wind up homeless and so forth.
See - Virgo may worry (pointlessly at times) but is solution oriented.. Going to fix problems even if they don't it exist.
It is Saturn / Capricorn that thinks that problems are without soloution and consequences are going to be unbelievably harsh and dire.
See the difference?
Anyway - Saturn sq Cap Sun gets hold of the other partners in crime and berates and then becomes outrageously shockingly cheap and hoarding - ( trying to show "you" how to be responsible and teach "you" like a parent not to give away the farm). I just know you stockpile stuff in your house See... the big storm that may come.
This goes on for awhile, a day a week and then guess who does another shocking sacrifice again...? (Plus Moon Jup is tied to Venus (money) is Sag (generous),
So what happens is that you chase this (yourself) around for a lifetime putting out the fires.
Obviously the solution is to recognize and embrace all. Difficult though. I admit it!
You know --- I feel the impulse to do X, but I will exert SOME control and do Y and then no one has *that* much reason to #*!@.
Now careful here because this also means that various inmate energy in you is not completely free. I mean this Moon Jupiter Venus thing wants to give without restraint and Saturn Sun wants to keep each dime in case of a horribly rainy day and no one gets everything they want.
Frankly, I would have to brainstorm ideas. Like.. example Virgo (not involved in the cross) divide up the money..
This much is for throwing in the street, donating in whatever way that you want and this other is for .....
Capricorn will freak (THROW IN THE STREET?????) but... this happens anyway and so this is a way to restrict how much.
See.. Jupiter / Pisces have a point. Giving brings good things into the life and so there is no bad guy here.
I'll be back. My DH is home sick. Oh Lord!!!!!! A sick Cancerian!
posted on March 16, 2001 11:10:10 AM
Well I wouldn't doubt that someday you will be famous. I believe you will write a book. You are a grand story teller and have such an awesome grasp about all this. What is neat is the way you relate real life to what is going on in a natal chart. It is very personalized and believable!!! You go girl.
[b]See - Virgo may worry (pointlessly at times) but is solution oriented.. Going to fix problems even if they don't it exist.
It is Saturn / Capricorn that thinks that problems are without soloution and consequences are going to be unbelievably harsh and dire. See the difference? [/b]
Yes!!!! I do. Makes a lot of sense.
It is Saturn / Capricorn that thinks that problems are without soloution and consequences are going to be unbelievably harsh and dire.
Ohhhh you are on to me, VM. If I could change any one personality trait the gloom and doom would be it. Steve has been wonderful with me in this respect. He just laughs at me. Early in our marriage this made me "in his face mad". Now it just gets me to laughing because it can be ridiculous.
Him: I'm going to the store.
Me: No, don't go. It is 40 below 0 and the roads are icy.
Him: I'll be okay, don't worry.
Me: But honey someone could hit you. A car might slide into you. It's awful out there. No body should be out. Please go later. What if you would slide into a ditch? My God, it happens all the time. Didn't you see on the news where the guy died.
Him: Yep, the car and I could slide into a ditch. I would immediately be buried alive in 4 feet of snow. Both of my legs would be broke. I could be paralized for life. I could blah, blah, blah (getting more ridiculous with the "what if's" and laughing his ass off)
Me: (Laughing) Okay, wear your seat belt, take the cell phone, and make sure the emergency cold weather kit is in the trunk.
I just know you stockpile stuff in your house See... the big storm that may come.
My basement is full.
I know I'm jumping around here but.....I have had 5 serious relationships. Here's how it went.
Boyfriend #1 Birthday 5/14
Great Sex, Lots of Jealousy, Lots of fights!
Husband #1 Birthday 5/16
Great Sex, Very Possessive, Intellectually stimulating.
Husband # 2 Birthday 5/15
Out of the world sex! Horrible fights.
Boyfriend #2 Birthday 5/17
Great Sex, Jealousy, Physical Abuse.
My DH (the last) Birthday 7/7
He adores me. It's all about cuddles, love notes and spoiling me rotten. The hell with sex!
Now was I attracted to the bull or what? True story. In between boyfriend #2 and meeting my present love, I met this guy at a private party. We couldn't keep our eyes off each other. He called me and ask me out. While waiting on our table at this classy restaurant, we were having cocktails. As we were talking about our lives I ask him when his BD was. 5/14. Not kidding. I couldn't wait for that date to be over. I never went out with him again. But it took all my will power not to. I was really hot for him. I just couldn't pay the price again!
BBL, I'm making homemade soup just like Mom's! :lol
~~Anais~~
[ edited by anais on Mar 16, 2001 12:01 PM ]
posted on March 16, 2001 11:45:30 AM
Did I miss something here? VM, is there a reason Anais is wildly attracted to Taureans? And are Taureans naturally possessive or was it something in their charts or hers that never made it work out?
posted on March 16, 2001 12:03:05 PM
First a note to lurker...
I don't want you to backslide! I am writing a series about how to get a new life on my page so read there - you want "Uranus" and I am going to try to finish that bit tonight.
You go girl.
anais - thank you!
[b]See - Virgo may worry (pointlessly at times) but is solution oriented.. Going to fix problems even if they don't it exist.
It is Saturn / Capricorn that thinks that problems are without soloution and consequences are going to be unbelievably harsh and dire.
Ohhhh you are on to me, VM. If I could change any one personality trait the gloom and doom would be it. Steve has been wonderful with me in this respect.
Okay... here the deal with Capricorn.
Post 35 YO, the only reason you suffer is bad habit, and smart Capricorn breaks the habit.
See, you are soooooo competant you have no reason to be afraid.
The trick later in life is to releiaze that you are *wise* and if you are thrown in the street tomorrow, you will have a roof back over your head before you hit the ground.
What I am saying is that you can stop suffering at anytime, you do be da boss!
On the basement, cool if you like it that way, but it may do you a world of good to live without such a secutry net.
Yes I know Virgo bought it all on deal
This is not critisicm. I am justr thinking that it could be an "exercise", a way for you to learn that you are OKIE DOKIE and all that energy that you spend could be put into more excellent pursuits.
See, Capricorn is a complex beast (SEA-GOAT) but must master their fear.
Think aobut doing this (hoarding less) because I bet that you would marvel at what blossumed in you.
Okay, now all these Tauri.
Taurus rules sexaul / sensual pleasure. It is not Scorpio like people think. Scorpio's thing is the orgasm. "The little death", I don't know how to spell it French. By the time my Gem daughter with Pluto in Scorp rising is 6 YO she will be able to tell me
As for your affinitlyu - well it is extreme.
See Taur gets along with your Virgo, your Pisces, your Cancer and your Capricorn.
You also have 3 planets in Libra which is ruled by Venus. Venus also rules Taurs and so Taur and Libra have an affinity.
Anyeay, I am glad that you are spoiled now. Sounds like you threw over your old "imprint".
BBL, I'm making homemade soup just like Mom's! :lol
I knew it.
PS I just day deco's question --- all those Taur's Sun land in anais 8th house (sex) and light that sucker right up!
Also, by degree, their Sun(s) trigger her Mars Neptune and so huge idolization and sexual fantasy. It's not sex, it's HEAVEN! VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 17, 2001 06:12:04 PM
My daughter 5 YO is a natural. I rarely talk to her about astrology but she remembers.
She also pointed to the Moon in the daytime sky at about 2 YO "Moooooooooooooo" and that was a clue.
So tonight we were all playing and the baby (almost 2, a Taurus) was standing on top a plastic storage box and started to lose his balance.
Face of total terror.
My husband (a Taur) says "see that Taurus falling look?" (Taur prefers to stay ON the earth)
So C waves her hand and says "see this Gemini hand?"
"Yes, and Gemini rules the hands"
"I rule the mind"
"Yes, and the hands"
She absorbs.
"Do you know what Daddy and XXXX rule?"
"What?"
"The neck!"
She likes this.
She quickly calculates that the mind is better than the neck by far and she has the hands - a bonus. I see a secret smile.
I let her gloat for 1/2 a minute and then..
"do you know what else they rule?"
"What?"
"Love"
"Yeah, so they don't scream like we do."
I can just here her at school..
"that's good writing C"
"yes, well I am a Gemini and I rule the mind!"
LOL VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 17, 2001 06:16:01 PM
LOL, What a great story! I've got one of those fabulous Gemini daughters all grown up now and all I can tell you is hang on for the ride VeryModern hang on with everything you've got!!!
posted on March 17, 2001 06:19:30 PM
My daughter told her K teacher than "2000 years ago women in Europe used to kill their husbands (she is a Scor rising, Pluto conjunct) with toad poison". The teacher almost fainted.
She was 4 YO and had read it in a yard sale book "Poison animals" that I had brought home.
I did not pre-read it. Who'd have thought that would be in there.
She asked me "did they kill their daughters too?"
"No honey. Just the men."
I mean, what else can I say? VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 17, 2001 06:23:59 PM
Oh. And a couple years from now she will probably be saying...
You know those women who killed their husbands...? Do you suppose they had Pluto square their Mars? Who rules frogs, anyway? LOL VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 17, 2001 06:33:29 PM
One more!
A couple nights ago she was quizzing me.
"I will say a verb in Spanish and you guess what it is. A verb is an action word. Got that Mom?"
"Okay, go"
"Blablahblahdada"
"Running, walking, skipping"
"No Mom. Flying. You should have done better with that." VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 17, 2001 06:39:49 PM
LOL, One that comes to mind for my Gemini at the age of five. She asked me how they make power lines. I said I don't know. She said, Don't ya think you should know that mom?
Uhhhh, NO!
I have to say though at four and five it's awfully cute. Wait til she's about 13 when it's no longer so damned funny... LOL
posted on March 17, 2001 06:45:40 PM
Here's one for you VeryModern. Does your daughter already think that she can mother your son as well as you can? My daughter was 7 when my son was born. From the day he was born she loved to tell me how to raise him. And, I don't mean child's play - she was serious! LOL
posted on March 18, 2001 06:07:59 AMShe said, Don't ya think you should know that mom?
I've heard this one too mybiddness.
She does not think that she is the better mother, but she does teach the poor kid. They are like Lucy and Linus.
She started from the time he could sit up teaching him "Body Recess". She was three.
She would talk to him loud and slow like he could not understand her language.
grabs a handful of her hair.
"Hair. H-A-I-R. It grows on your head and shades your brain. Hair!"
then
"Now let's try that again."
and
"do you know your colors? You need to learn your colors"
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican (news - web sites)
acknowledged Tuesday a damning report that some priests and
missionaries were forcing nuns to have sex with them, and were in some
cases committing rape and forcing the victims to have abortions.
Some nuns were forced to take the contraceptive pill, the report cited in
Rome daily la Repubblica said.
posted on March 22, 2001 09:32:43 AM
Okay deco - you get an event, a release by the weekend.
Mars will leave your 4th and be happier in the 5th next day or so. Less angry feelings, more action which Mars prefers of course.
Hooks up with Mercury this weekend, so you can fight with a sibling, a neighbor, write furiously or better yet, get in the car and drive.
No speeding of course
Once you move you will feel better. Mars in Sag + Mercury = Hot to go! Short trip, change your reality.
posted on March 22, 2001 10:00:15 AM
Drive what? In the middle of nowhere with no car, he lent the bicycle and never got it back and I don't even have rollerblades. That's probably good or I might break the other leg. See things are looking up already. LOL.
Finally starting to channel it into work today anyway. Next week it's back to ebay and sell,sell,sell. Unclutter,at any price.
Speaking of prices and they seem to go lower and lower on ebay and the dow is tumbling today too.
posted on March 22, 2001 10:43:52 AM
Oh deco!
I thought he took your "best" car and left you will his inferior model.
The shed is too good for him. He should never sleep indoors again.
Do I really think this?
Yes!
That @#%%^#@#! Again, I find myself wishing I lived close. I would toss you my keys in 2 seconds.
The market is ugly. No improvement until April and then I dunno... I wrote this way back.
Not that I listened to me! I am getting killed too, but I kind of like being part of the collective, so oh well.
I don't feel good NOT bloody when everyone else is. Venus sq Neptune sacrifice. I am a fool and I cop to it!
On the other thread about the future of the Internet, I do think it has dawned on me, the astrology.
T Uranus through Aquarius and FAST the Internet springs up and hooks us all together.
T Neptune is following Uranus through Aquarius and guess what Neptune does...
Erases.
fillintheblank.com? What fillintheblank.com. I swear it was just their yesterday.
Like that. Large parts just "disappear". Classic Neptune. It was just almost real but not quite.
I got an email from Bigfoot today.
Free email address for life?
Not anymore. LOL
Anyhow, this is in process right now (the internet) and I am trying to figure out how this ends up and I am almost there. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on March 23, 2001 06:32:56 AM
Woken up with kisses at 2:00 AM. Says his mind is at rest now and he can concentrate on work. Naturally, I had NOTHING to say. Looks like I get to go to my auction tomorrow after all! Then I'll tell him I'm selling the car and he has to go on the Big Dog to Indiana and pick up the minivan. Oh, revenge is so sweet!! Never get mad, get even!
Oh, and I was not saying you were windy or I would have said you are windy! I love how you trip around with these things exploring different meanings and explaining it so well.That's not windy, that's consciencious.
posted on March 23, 2001 06:46:00 AM
Happy for you deco, but always a quip.
Isn't there some old country western song ..
"...your baaaaaaad boy's gonna go good!"
Told you relief by the weekend. Once you are moving you will be thrilled. Mars in Sag on Mercury, you need the wind in your hair and everything'll be OKAY. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on June 30, 2001 12:34:26 AM
Oh, Very Modern, where are you? Is this what you meant by things popping in August? June brought trees falling down and plenty of expensive tree work not to mention a whole new pump and water system.
Now I've been looking for another house but that was brought to an end today as my tenant in the store will be moving out August 1st. We have one store almost ready to open and now we'll be taking over the other store too! Talk about being grounded!
Now we have to move out of this house as we can't continue living between the two of them and need to rent one, but that will be okay as we have the months notice to get it ready to rent and most of the stuff will be going in the store anyway.
This has certainly taken me out of my lethargy about not selling much anywhere online, tho I did take advantage of the free day and list some very expensive antiques and have had hundreds of hits and a few emails!
Hell's a poppin' around here! Any advice? If you do answer, please start a new thread?
posted on June 30, 2001 05:30:36 AM
Hiya deco, sounds like you're doing great!
Yeah, it is what I meant, especially the pipes, and you're just getting started. Lots more coming up the pike. Lots, lots more. All year and into next.
In fact, I did a quick emphemeris check and noticed that end of May 2002 you have T Saturn at 17 Gem exact square your Moon while Pluto is also squaring from it's station at 16 Sag. I would have to say that all of this is coming to that, my point being this is a good long run.
I am sorry I can't start another thread here. I wouldn't have time to care for it because I am writing 10 hours a day already.
Just make the best of a very profound transformative year deco. Because of this one coming up, the rest of your life will be enhanced. Believe it. Just live because when you in a track like the one you are now, you really can't screw up.
