posted on December 10, 2000 09:34:43 PM new
auctionee, getting positive feedbacks from a bunch of buyers/sellers may instill confidence in you in the minds of your potential buyers....BUT IT WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO LISTING PLACEMENT.
Yahoo has REMOVED seller feedback rating from the default listing placement 'formula', as well as removing seller 'sell-through rate' and number of bids on the item.
WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE, you ask, in determining the default listing order???
Not time-progression (time left), not alphabetically, not listing number, not number of letters in the title, not opening price, not current bid price, not reserve or buy price, not acceptance of PayDirect, not seller's country, not seller's zip code.
I give up.
Maybe they're using the numbers in the credit cards we use to register.
posted on December 11, 2000 12:26:05 PM new
I use Yahoo's Bulk Loader, to maintain well over 300 listings at any given time! After the initial submital when Yahoo Auto-Relist my listings they then are gone from the Keyword Search & Location Search! One might surmise they are trying to eliminate stale listings and keyword spamming! Has any other seller's noticed this problem!
posted on December 11, 2000 04:08:44 PM new
This is my last email to Yahoo begging them to fix the listing order. I feel like I'm harrassing them, so I'm done.
Dear Yahoo,
It is too late now to change the listing order and save our Christmas. Over 300 auctions 3 bids.
posted on December 12, 2000 12:27:24 AM new
I relisted one auction tonight (it had closed with "First Bid Wins" today, and I have a duplicate), and I listed one new item. Then I looked to see where they were in their respective categories.
My relisted auction is the last item in its category, at the very end of the list, and below my other listings in that category (none of which are GROUPED TOGETHER ANYMORE). The new item is 12th in its category, below an assortment of items ending in 1-8 days by sellers with varying feedback ratings and sell-through rates.
I might conclude that relisted auctions get lower placement than new submissions, EXCEPT that the *last* new submission I made prior to this was placed near the end of its category. It got a bid almost immediately then languished (it's one of my new "experiments" without a 'buy price' or 'First Bid Wins'), so I featured it. Featuring has done ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD WHATSOEVER, either in bids OR in pageviews, since it still has just one bid, and the pageviews have only increased from 6 to 13 in the past four days.
Meanwhile, people are sending emails on my "First Bid Wins" auctions, asking if I have (or can get) more of the same. I have never gotten requests like this before. I have to assume they're hesitant to bid (for whatever reason), but want reassurance they can purchase an identical one in the future.
That's something I can't guarantee, since I don't know if Yahoo Auction will be around much longer, or if I'll still be listing on it IF IT IS.
posted on December 12, 2000 04:49:16 AM new
YIKES! I wish that they would just bid on your stuff! What's up with this emailing business?
so none of your listings are grouped together? are they in anything that resembles time-ending sequence? just wondering. I had to ask!
As for me, I have about 4 items listed on Yahoo right now. I actually sold everything I had listed on Yahoo, which wasn't a lot, and the bulk of my inventory is listed on Ebay right now.
posted on December 12, 2000 05:05:55 PM new
"Meanwhile, people are sending emails on my "First Bid Wins" auctions, asking if I have (or can get) more of the same."
The few e-mails I have got like this are because the person wanted to buy 2 or 3 and I only had 1 listed.
posted on December 12, 2000 06:00:54 PM new
I just got an answer to my "send beans" email. And it's a DIFFERENT cut and paste! I bet you guys are jealous. LOL!!
Hello Sandy,
Thank you for your email.
We would like to investigate this matter further. To do so, we will
need some additional information from you. Please reply to this email
with the following information:
- Your Yahoo! ID
- The Auction ID number(s) of the auction(s) involved
- The Yahoo! IDs of any bidders/sellers involved
- The exact steps you took leading up to the problem
- The exact text of any error messages you received
We hope to have this resolved for you as quickly as possible. Thank you
for your assistance and your patience.
posted on December 12, 2000 11:23:24 PM new
CAgrrl, my auctions (within a category) are no longer grouped, and aren't in any time-ending order, either.
auctionee, when buyers want more than one copy of something, they either bid first and *then* ask if I have more, or they specifically ask how many I have in stock because they want to buy X number. Now the buyers (or should I say NON-buyers) are wanting to know if I'll list another one AFTER the one on the auction sells (I guess so they'll know how many they can let go by before they finally hit the 'bid' button).
grapey, did you send your last email to the NEW Auction Abuse form or through the form you've been using all along??? It may be nice to get a *different* form letter response for a change, but it doesn't seem to be an improvement........
posted on December 13, 2000 10:45:31 AM new
Yahoo thinks that this scrambled listing order is going to make it so people list QUALITY items? The easy way to get to the top of the listing order is to:
> purchase a whole bunch of cheap collectibles that you don't care about but you know will sell.
> Set a starting bid of $0.01.
You more than likely will sell most of them on the first time through with more than 1 bid. Don't worry about making a profit. Let your cheap crap get you to the top of the listing order so you can sell your quality items...
[ edited by outoftheblue on Dec 13, 2000 10:49 AM ]
posted on December 13, 2000 04:31:13 PM newI wonder.....do you think they are figuring it by the dollar amount that our auctions are making kinda like egreeds powerseller system?
posted on December 13, 2000 05:27:42 PM new
I think they tape up a printout on very thin paper, of all of the active auction sellers ID's, on the wall. They give darts to a retired Floridian with arthritis, who has to throw them over the head backwards, while holding a large heavey box full of bingo cards with their free arm. The sellers who have clear punctures in their ID's, with no chads, get preferential listing locations. Only Floridians knowing which end of the dart contains the point, are allowed to be selected to throw the darts.
The darts are dulled to help prevent possible injury to the dart throwers, who may stumble while trying to protect the box of bingo cards. To insure objectiveness in the selection process, and take the necessary safety precautions. The dart throwers identities have been chosen from thousands of non-counted dimple ballots. The reason being, if they are not able to puncture a thin piece of ballot cardboard with a sharp voter pin, they are less likely to do bodily harm with a dull dart.
posted on December 14, 2000 06:54:55 AM new
granee
You're very welcome! It's nice to know I have brought a smile, or laugh, to another person.
I promise, no more jokes about Floridians, after this. I have relatives there, but they do have a sense of humor. It's time to put the chads in the fireplace.
I have one last puzzling thought about the complaining, non-counted voters?
With all of the demonstrations we are being subjected to now. The bull horns; organized groups chanting, "What do we want?", "Our votes counted!!", "When do we want it?", "NOW!!"; the neat, well done signs; the organized gatherings, and all of the time spent, etc, etc.
Why couldn't they find the time to just punch the ballots correctly?
posted on December 14, 2000 11:14:42 PM new
amalgamated2000
Thank you! this is the same thing I have been saying all along!
labbie1
Go in and up your ante! If you are paying $0.10/day go up to a $1/day and you will move right to the top of the list!
I up my ante or list a few featured a day or two before they end and move right up to the top!
My feedback is low only 60 visual and about 90 with repeat customers!
PROVIDED YOUR $1/day is higher then anyone else who featured!
It is called an auction for position (Featured)!
Actually it is more like playing poker!
Have to watch it a lot closer when I run out of my plus $550 of EBAY credits they gave me!
Sales have been up here for me and on E-bay also!
Believe it or not even multiple bids!
Buy It Now on E-bay has been hot and makes others bid on items! One fellow received his Buy It Now and has bids on about 20 Auctions closing Sunday to defeat the BIN!
posted on December 14, 2000 11:30:05 PM new
For you folks who have been writing this is one response from my Yahoos Broke folder I started back when everyones concern was the RULE of 1000 and then CC verification!
This is when it all happend!
I removed the routings from the end to shorten it!
As you've noticed, we're currently experiencing some technical
difficulties. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you.
Please be assured that we are aware of this problem and working to fix
it as quickly as possible.
Regards,
Amanda
Yahoo! Auctions Customer Care
*************************
We value your input. Please take a moment to take our customer
satisfaction survey. Your feedback will be used to help us make
improvements to the service that Yahoo! Customer Care provides.
Original message follows:
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Name: Wayne A Russell
Yahoo! ID warr_2
Subject: How to...
Type your feedback here:
I notice that your viewing of auctions
format has changed!
As a user for over two years now, I
thought I liked it at first!
Yesterday 8/25/2000:
>I went to view pages by list-sort by
end time and everything seemed okay!
>Clicked on photos only and viewed
pages one at a time until I came to my
auctions ending on 8/26/2000!
Everything seemed in sequential order
starting with featured auctions?(Very
antiquated method!)
Today 8/26/2000 I return to site:
>Cick on diecast-matchbox-view by end
time-by list! Everything fine
>Click on photos only and start viewing
pages one at a time (again very
antiquated) Could not find my listings?
>I usually click on items to see when
there end times are after I was up to
page 9 and found them to be seven days
out!
>where did mine go?
One of the great aspects of Yahoo
auction was the viewing by photos only,
especially in the small item market! A
picture is worth a thousand words!
HOW DO YOU VIEW PHOTOS ONLY BY END TIME?
I HOPE YOU HAVE NOT MOVED ALL FEATURED
AUCTIONS LISTED TO THE FRONT OR THIS
WILL DESTROY YOUR ALREADY SLOW METHOD
OF BROWSING PHOTOS PAGE BY PAGE??
I hope the featured auctions for a
respective day are the only ones at the
head of the auction page?
Please advise, since I have been trying
to break the reins of E-bay and all the
ideas they steal from you folks in
their greedy efforts!
Your time and consideration appreciated!
wayne
While Viewing: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/auct/agen/
Date Originated: Saturday August 26, 2000 - 11:10:37
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labbie1
This one look familiar? Notice the date!
Subj: Re: Yahoo! bug
Date: 9/3/00 11:08:30 AM Central Daylight Time
From: [email protected] (Yahoo Auctions)
Reply-to: [email protected] (Yahoo Auctions)
To: [email protected] (Wayne)
Hello,
Thank you for your email.
When viewing Yahoo! Auctions listings, you have the option to sort
auctions by a number of different methods. Simply click on one of the
following links, located just above the auctions listed on any listings
page, to view auctions based on that criteria:
Photo - Sort auctions based on whether or not they have a photo.
Title - Sort auctions alphabetically by their titles.
Current Bid - Sort auctions based on their Current Bid price.
Bids - Sort auctions based on the number of bids they have received.
Time Left - Sort auctions based on how much time they have left.
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Yahoo!, about the listing order.
