toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 11:48:55 AM new
Ha, Sara...
You forgot too??? 
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Linda_K
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:02:46 PM new
ROFLMHO - very good toke
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Hjw
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:17:26 PM new
Linda_K
Remember, it was your poem that led us astray.
Now, the topic is divorce and women's inability to cope financially... especially
if they are nearing retirement age and are dependent financially on a man.
Helen
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:24:43 PM new
Well, I'm married and would be unable to cope financially without my husband. I'm sure desperation will be an impetus to my creativity, though.....
If not...well, I still need to lose weight... There's always a bright side, no?
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krs
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:25:17 PM new
The topic is that there are many women who get divorced and enter the workplace with a relatively late start. When comes the time that they might otherwise be eligible to retire from their job/career they find that they do not have sufficient time to gain the full measure of their retirement system. Because of that they cannot afford to retire and are thus forced to continue working.
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:35:30 PM new
krs...
We were being frivolous. You know...kidding?
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Linda_K
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:40:33 PM new
hjw - Linda_K Remember, it was your poem that led us astray
Personal responsibility Helen...not blaming others for one's self control being compromised.
I don't know the divorce laws in states other than CA., but there a women who divorces would be entitled to 1/2 her husbands company retirement plan, 401K plan, 1/2 home ownership, 1/2 savings, and 1/2 of etc. Plus a woman who's been married and not working for over a period of 20 years is also entitled to spousal support for 1/2 the period of time she was married. If, in a divorce, she settles for less, that's her choice.
So, IMO, while the article does present us with issues to think about (and hopefully young woman will consider some of the circumstances they may one day find themselves in) I don't see it necessarily means that women would be forced to continue working past her normal retirement period.
Of course, this only applies to CA., woman and doesn't take into consideration that divorce laws are constantly changing. That's why, IMO, a woman needs to do what she can to provide for her current and future needs.
Edited to add: She can also draw her share of his social security retirement benefits too.
[ edited by Linda_K on Jun 26, 2001 12:49 PM ]
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RainyBear
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posted on June 26, 2001 12:41:36 PM new
My mom has always told me never to become financially dependent on a man. She's in that situation and luckily my dad is great, but he won't disclose any financial details to her and she worries about something happening to him.
My financial picture would probably be a little better at this point if I didn't have a man... they're expensive! (But worth it!)
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krs
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posted on June 26, 2001 01:30:55 PM new
"I don't know the divorce laws in states other than CA., but there a women who divorces would be entitled to 1/2 her husbands company retirement plan, 401K plan, 1/2 home ownership, 1/2 savings, and 1/2 of etc. Plus a woman who's been married and not working for over a period of 20 years is also
entitled to spousal support for 1/2 the period of time she was married. If, in a divorce, she settles for less, that's her choice".
Completely misguiding. A woman divorcing in California, as well as in a majority of the states after TWELVE YEARS OF marriage MAY BE entitled to half of THOSE THINGS, but if the marriage does not continue for that long she not be so entitled although courts weigh each situation separately and MAY award such for the WELFARE of the woman.
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 01:34:07 PM new
Llego con un herido...krs. Lay off. Usted es muy...estupido.
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SaraAW
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posted on June 26, 2001 01:37:15 PM new
toke,
Even though that was in Spanish - I got it.
Please do not post in that vein again.
Thanks,
Sara
[email protected]
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 01:42:15 PM new
Si...sangro para usted...
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SaraAW
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posted on June 26, 2001 01:59:01 PM new
Hi Folks,
Please post in English from now on...'sides, the next Moderator on Duty won't like it
Thanks!
Sara
[email protected]
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hepburn
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:00:51 PM new
Where is my translator?
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hepburn
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:03:05 PM new
LindaK....
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krs
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:11:36 PM new
Toke said:
"arrive with an wounded... krs. Lay off. You are very... stupid."
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:12:56 PM new
Hep...
I come with one wound. Lay off. You are very stupid.
Yes...I bleed for you.
I am trying desperately for self-containment.
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hepburn
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:17:36 PM new
I was teasing
Sara, who is the mod coming on duty? If its pat, he has his handy dandy translator with him
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:20:00 PM new
Hepburn...
You can trust me. I am NOT affiliated with krs in any way...
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krs
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:23:04 PM new
What is wrong with you? In one post you call me stupid in Spanish, and in the next you call hepburn that with
"Hep...
I come with one wound. Lay off. You are very stupid."
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hepburn
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:23:56 PM new
Toke, I know that from just reading here, lol. I meant I was teasing about needing my translator. I have it...right here
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hepburn
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:25:51 PM new
krs, toke was telling me what she said in spanish, not saying the same thing to me. You know...'splaining.
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:27:15 PM new
krs...
Pobrecito...
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:30:21 PM new
Ah, Hep...
He has no choice. He's apparently stuck here.
And has small calibre ammo Sadly, I knew that from his posts...
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joice
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:34:34 PM new
Hello Everyone,
Please post in English. Being a moderator is difficult enough without having to run to a translator site to find out what you are saying.
Thanks in advance for you cooperation,
Joice
[email protected]
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:37:17 PM new
Joice...
Pobrecito means "poor little one"...from my heart.
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Hjw
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posted on June 26, 2001 02:57:20 PM new
toke, LoL
You are beginning to sould like Richards describing the elder Bush.
Helen
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 03:14:49 PM new
No, HJW...
I am very sorry for your erroneous perceptions...sorry
[ edited by toke on Jun 26, 2001 03:16 PM ]
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toke
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posted on June 26, 2001 03:23:17 PM new
Oh crap...
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krs
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posted on June 26, 2001 05:18:05 PM new
definitive post, that, Introspection.
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