chum
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posted on July 4, 2001 06:32:09 PM new
Below is a interesting article about fair and balanced fox news. I knew they were slanted, but this really tells the truth.
http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/fox-main.html
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krs
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posted on July 4, 2001 07:55:44 PM new
That's only the tip of that iceberg. There are many articles and exposes about the biases of Fox news. A few are:
http://slate.msn.com/Assessment/00-11-22/Assessment.asp
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0047/cotts.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a10051348bf.htm
http://www.newyorkmag.com/page.cfm?page_id=4407
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 06:16:01 AM new
In the article posted by Chum, there is the following excerpt...
"When a New York Times profile of Fox News ran with a headline calling it a "conservative cable channel" (9/18/00), the paper quickly corrected their "error" the following day, explaining that in "attributing a general political viewpoint to the network, the headline exceeded the facts in the article."
My question is why did the New York Times "quickly correct" that observation which is a fact?
Helen
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jlpiece
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posted on July 5, 2001 11:15:01 AM new
Are there any liberal leaning news channels? Or are all of the other networks fair and balanced? Or is it really just that Fox annoys you not because they are biased, but because they are conservatively biased instead of being liberally biased like all of the other networks?
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 11:42:24 AM new
Of course, you know that I prefer liberal coverage. But why is Fox ducking the question of where they really stand?
My question is why do they flaunt the claim of fair and balanced when they are far right of center?
Helen
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jamesoblivion
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posted on July 5, 2001 11:50:30 AM new
Well, the New York Times claims its literally an arbiter of the news like it is, yet it very clearly has a liberal slant. That's just the way news sources are. All of them. Even Reuters and the AP editolrialize (perhaps unwittingly). Even journalists who try so very hard to be objective inevitably reveal their biases through simple things like word choice.
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Borillar
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posted on July 5, 2001 11:54:00 AM new
Two words: Ted Turner
Teddy owns most of the newspapers in America and *HATES* liberals and progressives of every stripe! He owns CNN and other news channels. He has his pockets deep in AOL/Time/Warner. His empire stretches on and on.
But saying that Fox News isn't biased at all and gives "balanced coverage" is like saying that Rush Limbaugh isn't biased! The only thing it balances out is all of the reporting of the nasty, crappy, shifty dealings that the Republican politicians traditionally do in screwing over consumers and Americans -- their own voters included! What can you say about a political party that screws their own constituency as a matter of policy? Then again, what can be said of people who VOTE for them knowing how badly they'll be screwed over after being used? Stupidity, just plain stupidity.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on July 5, 2001 11:55:43 AM new
Eh? Ted Turner is a loony tune and as unPC as they come but CNN is a bastion of liberal reporting. It's the mirror image of FOX.
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bunnicula
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posted on July 5, 2001 12:26:44 PM new
There's really no such thing as "unbiased" news reporting. There's no surprise in that--newspapers have always reflected the biases of of their owners. TV news continues that tradition.
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Linda_K
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posted on July 5, 2001 12:50:37 PM new
Say what you will, but The Fox News Channel is the fastest growing tv news program.... so they're doing something right.
I think the reason the show's getting so much attention from these negative doom-sayers is that now the other tv news stations are becoming aware Fox is taking a share of the viewing public away from their shows.
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saabsister
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posted on July 5, 2001 01:27:59 PM new
I expect bias in newspaper and television reporting. I'm not saying that this is good, only that it exists. How many news stations aren't large corporations, supported by other large corporations through advertising? I don't even expect my favorite local paper "The Washington Post" to dig too deeply into their advertisers' practices unless forced to do so. Has Sixty Minutes done exposes of how the news is reported or who makes the decision to cover stories and to what depth? Editors have reporters back off stories for a variety of reasons.
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 01:51:55 PM new
saabsister,
Your favorite is my favorite too. Since we live in the Washington area, I like to sometimes compare the coverage of the Washington Post versus a more conservative paper such as the Washington Times. The difference is staggering!
For example, the emphasis lately with the Washington Times has been on the story of the Democratic Senator Condit and the number of flings that he has aledgedly had...right on the top front page with picture.
Helen
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jamesoblivion
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posted on July 5, 2001 01:56:50 PM new
Just to give another example, major news media often won't report stories until they're scooped, particularly something prurient like the Jesse Jackson love child for example. Once the National Enquirer reports it, then they feel free to report that the National Inquirer reported it. That's the news, not the story itself. Another example is the Clinton/ Lewinsky affair. I'm not saying Newsweek should or should not have broke the story, but they were sitting on it for weeks or months. One of their reporters wrote a whole piece on it that was killed. Killed, that is, until Matt Drudge let the cat out of the bag. So what they choose to withhold is often as relevant as what they choose to report. If your favorite news magazine decides "it's not a story" you may never find out about it.
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 02:14:10 PM new
Matt Drudge lets the cat out of the bag and then katy bar the door!!!
LoL
Helen
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saabsister
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posted on July 5, 2001 02:15:46 PM new
Oh, Helen. I admire your attempt to be fair. I just can't bring myself to buy the Washington Times although I have glanced surreptiously at it as my hand wanders to the left of the rack and I grab The Post. I used to pick up The City Paper from the newstand near the Metro, but I haven't spotted it near my neighborhood - it gave a different perspective to local politics.
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 03:06:35 PM new
saabsister
Me fair???
No, I just buy The Washington Times occasionally for the art coverage which is superior, and to laugh at everything else.
Helen
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nefish
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posted on July 5, 2001 03:18:37 PM new
Eh? Ted Turner is a loony tune and as unPC as they come but CNN is a bastion of liberal reporting. It's the mirror image of FOX.
Yup - exactly!
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labrat4gmos
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posted on July 5, 2001 07:01:28 PM new
I have never read the Washington Times, but give the Post alot of credit lately. Although I believe the NY Times was the first newspaper to really start informing the public about transgenic foods, the Post has been researching both the frankenfoods and the transgenic drug trials. Especially the university drug trial that killed the young 18/19 year old. Rick Weiss, Post reporter, must have gotten alot of flack from companies like Monsanto, the Agent Orange producer now turned "Save the World" seed producer.
I had a conversation with the spouse of a former employee of the advertising department at the Post. They have had alot of companies with high adv
budgets demanding special treatment...and the person said they don't get it. Well, that is what was said anyway, I suspect that isn't always the case, but don't know.
A few days later my land developer neighbor was fuming because the Post had taken advertising money for a large supplement by the developers or builder's association and had THE NERVE to run an article the same week against something the developers were doing in the Washington area.
Good for them!
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There has been one court case against Fox for a couple years. The Tampa Florida station caved in to Monsanto insteading of supporting their reporters, Akers & Wilson, who had a damning story about the transgenic rBgh hormone used on cows. The station kept cutting the news report down until there was nothing left of significance.
Jane Akers won her case against Fox last year I believe it was, and Steve Fox may still may be in the process. They have a website but I couldn't find the link I have to it.
I did find this real audio site, I don't have my speakers right now and haven't heard it:
[urlhttp://www.webactive.com/webactive/pacifica/demnow/dn20010129.html[/url]
Story: PRESS CENSORSHIP AROUND THE WORLD
Jane Akers and Steve Wilson, veteran news reporters for Fox TV in Tampa, Florida who were fired for refusing to water down an investigative report on Monsanto's controversial milk hormone, rBGH (recombinant bovine growth hormone).
[ edited by labrat4gmos on Jul 5, 2001 07:04 PM ]
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 07:20:49 PM new
That's a very interesting story!
Although she won the case, according to the story, she has not collected a cent!
According to Jane, the verdict made her the first journalist ever to win a
"whistleblower" judgement in court against a news organication accused of
illegally distorting the news."
Helen
http://www.purefood.org/rbgh/akrepart1.cfm#Flack%20Attack
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sulyn1950
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posted on July 5, 2001 08:01:16 PM new
One of my many jobs along the way was working for a very small local newspaper.
I got to "dummy" the paper. That meant each day, I had to take all the ads scheduled for that day and lay them out on page boards and then the news would be laid in the remaining spots! If we had a lot of ads, we had very little news!
When I asked why early on, I was told the paid subscriptions and newstand sales would not even cover the cost of printing much less a profit. The display ads were where the paper made it's money.
Although they may do everything differently now, publication or broadcasting companies still need advertisers to pay their bills and make them a profit.
It would be a tough call to decide to smear your bread and butter.
Is this the place we can kick back, relax, and have fun! Share a story, tell a joke, write a poem, make a friend...???
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uaru
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posted on July 5, 2001 08:30:46 PM new
Interesting that someone would supply numerous links challenging the fairness of Fox News when they continually offer postings of articles from this reputable source. 
[ edited by uaru on Jul 5, 2001 08:32 PM ]
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 08:31:22 PM new
Is this the place we can kick back, relax, and have fun! Share a story, tell a joke, write a poem, make a friend...???
LoL
That's the first joke right there! 
ROTFLOL!!!
Helen
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Hjw
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posted on July 5, 2001 08:37:12 PM new
uaru
Here is another good one!
http://www.failureisimpossible.com/
I haven't learned how to link with words yet.
Helen
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sulyn1950
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posted on July 5, 2001 10:19:12 PM new
Helen I was beginning to wonder, thought I was in the wrong place. I was hoping, if I was, someone would point me in the right direction! 
Sulyn
Is this the place we can kick back, relax, and have fun! Share a story, tell a joke, write a poem, make a friend...???
edited 'cause it's late and I've lost the feeling in my fingers...
[ edited by sulyn1950 on Jul 5, 2001 10:22 PM ]
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Hjw
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posted on July 6, 2001 05:53:51 AM new
Sulyn ROTFLOL
Let's keep looking sulyn, Maybe we just have to go through hostile territory to get there. Shhh..If we keep very, very quiet and don't use too much bold...(that's the trick). Take care...
Helen
[ edited by Hjw on Jul 6, 2001 05:55 AM ]
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krs
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posted on July 6, 2001 06:50:04 AM new
uaru,
"Interesting that someone would supply numerous links challenging the fairness of Fox News when they continually offer postings of articles from this reputable source".
I'd recommend that you take the time to read the fine print before you continue to make a fool of yourself.
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krs
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posted on July 6, 2001 06:54:41 AM new
linda-k,
"Say what you will, but The Fox News Channel is the fastest growing tv news program.... so they're doing something right".
Yes, so does world wide wrestling and the National Inquirer grow. Speaks to the perceptiveness and intelligence of the public consumer at large, wouldn't you say?
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jlpiece
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posted on July 6, 2001 11:21:38 AM new
I hope you realize borillar that Ted Turner has not been in control of CNN for quite some time, and as far as him being a conservative liberal basher, his stated reason for the breakup between him and Hanoi Jane was her recent turn to Christianity. Wow, what a conservative. Get your facts straight, son.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on July 6, 2001 11:34:52 AM new
What does Christianity have to do with conservatism? Only a particular brand of Christianity ties in with conservative politics. He is not a born again Christian; she is. Instant conflict. That's certainly no evidence of his political affiliation. Ted forgot to mention his affairs.
You are correct about him not being in full control anymore. He was recently demoted or kicked upstairs by Gerald Levin.
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jlpiece
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posted on July 6, 2001 09:47:18 PM new
Downstairs.
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