neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 05:34:28 AM new
I finally gave up on Vendio EVER having a decent bulk relister in the SMME. I used ebay Sales Manager to move 1,000 FP listings to my ebay store and it worked! Ebay's bulk relister is kind of a hassle (kept getting 'timed out' messages - but hitting the back button and then retrying eventually worked)but it certainly beats editing each item one by one to change format and attach a gallery.
"Categories""Handling Time" and "get it Fast" are also items that can be added or edited with the bulk relister. I then imported my new ebay store listings to Vendio and plan on using Vendio "post ssle" . It looks like the images were imported again but my image hosting allowance is humongous so that shouldn't be a problem. All of the completed FP listings still appear in PostSale=>Unsold but since they were the only listings I had ending on the FP sale date I won't worry about them.
I don't know WHAT I am going to do with all of the extra time I saved by using this method...maybe list more items in hopes of making some money? LOL
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 09:32:53 AM new
Neglus,
Have you tried the new Turbo Lister. I have been changing some of the info in my sore listings and I was going to change them to my vendio template. It was taking forever. Tried switching to SMIE and it was 4 hours and my SMME list was still not imported so I switched back to SMME. Could not get a response from Vendio on what was going on so I decided to try the new TL2. Looked at it for a while and did the new info in HTML so all I had to do is cut and paste. WOW! Did 100 listings in about 30 minutes. You can change all or some of the standard field on as many items you want with just a few clicks. You can run through each listing with just one click per listing going from page to page. This thing is better than sliced bread. Ran into a couple of glitches uploading (eBay's API problems) but they were easily remedied.
I know what direction I am going to be heading to now. This TL2 is the easiest thing I have ever used for either doing listings or revising content.
Bill
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neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 10:05:40 AM new
Tks Bill - it's been years since I used TL. Vendio sales manager works well enough for me for listings and I like to schedule my listings (10 cents on ebay). I don't like ebay's post-sale management system. I guess I'll keep doing the Vendio workarounds - for the time being at least.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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rpm757
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posted on March 27, 2006 10:07:15 AM new
Vendio please read the post above this. This is what you have done to us. we are using turbo lister because it is easier..
Oh maybe i have amnesia...
but how much did they
CHARGE FOR THE USE OF THAT PROGRAM.
DOES IT HAVE STORE CATEGORIES
DOES I HAVE BEST OFFER...HMMMN
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 10:14:14 AM new
Neglus,
I just ended & revised 20 store items changing the text in the listings and updated all the fixed parameters and I was done and back on eBay in less than 10 minutes. I know what you mean about the sceduling. I guess we still have to pay for that one way or another. I also use the revisor to change the schedules on my auction and fixed price (3, 5, 7).
It is a shame that I am paying for the reviser but I can not edit text in my listings. But that is why I use the TL2 now.
I am still searching for a way to be able to schedule with out having to pay for it. I know it is out there and I will find it.
Bill
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 10:18:24 AM new
Neglus,
One other thing. I have not used Vendio checkout because of all the problems they have been having with the posting of closed items. I know because of the fact that they do not read all of the items that are not posted through them and because of the API problems with eBay.
RPM,
It does all of that but ther still is not a way to do cheap scheduling.
Bill
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neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 10:39:29 AM new
Bill - one of my Vendio work arounds is to by-pass checkout. I send ebay invoices manually (just takes a couple of minutes). I download my payments directly from PayPal and prepare shipping envelopes from the downloaded list. I use Vendio to send payment received notices for PayPal payments, send shipping notifications and leave feedback (none of this is critical but helps with communication with buyers). I faithfully mark items "shipped" and use Vendio to verify the status of each item.
Truth is, I am pretty much STUCK with Vendio with all of the listings and images hosted here. A quick look at the HTML in all of my listings shows "VENDIO" in there about a gazillion times because of the template and image hosting. I am not disgruntled enough to want to edit 7000 items no matter how easy it might be in TL!!
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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rpm757
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posted on March 27, 2006 10:44:39 AM new
at one time, they at e-bay, were saying that if you SENT the info to them for a later posting they charged. but they claimed if you left on your computer at the time you wanted it to list it would do it. Now I may be confusing this with blackthorne, but give e-bay a call and ask.
and remember this with each ad you list there thats ten cents less you have spent here. so if you want to list at certain times then you are paying the 10 cts the others you are not.
also don't forget that any items listed on turbo will not show up here at post sale. if you use that.
thanks
roger
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:06:59 AM new
Neglus,
I use eBay too. All of the things that you do can be done in selling manager because I do the same things and it is done very quickly. I send all of the notices out etc.
Yes re-doing 7000 listings will take a while to do. At the most 35 hours. It would be a simple cut and paste. Then you would also have to change the imeages and that could be another 35 hours. I have over 1100 listings and I am doing them a small amount at a time because I do not want them ending all on the same day. That is why I stopped listing my store items with Vendio. I do not want to sit there and change even a couple of thousand listings. I will eventually store my templates on TL2 and then just cut and paste. I have about 2,000 to 3,000 or more items to list in my store but I want to get my listing medium set before I start venturing into anything full force. I do not want to be trapped by someone because of the time it will take to change.
When I sat down this weekend and looked at this new TL2 and found out what it does I was floored. Here was the answer to what I was trying to do and it was right in my backyard.
Bill
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:14:27 AM new
RPM,
Yes they do charge for setting up a sceduled time but I know I ran across a program some where that will automatically list the items for you. I just have to find it again. I like vendio's image thing with how you just have a thumbnail in the listing and you can click to get a "real" size photo. Once I get that solved I will be all set.
I do not use Vendio checkout because of the problems they have been having with eBay and they do not pick up items that were not listed with Vendio.
Blackthorne has its problems and I will not use that unless they get them fixed. I list over 450 items on auctions and fixed price every month at a dime apiece that is $45.00 so it is pretty much a wash when using the Vendio.
Bill
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rpm757
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:24:34 AM new
roger here bill,
i sell about the same amounts as you. I welcome your insights because it is telling me that i have been spending money to get a headache everyday.
There must be a workaround on the images and we will find it.
Both of you are telling me that you are large sellers and you are not using the programs here. Programs we are paying for on a monthly basis..
It is just going to come to finding some hosting space for images and we will be done with Vendio.
My sales are down about $10000 this month from their lack of concern to get this thing rolling.
I spend about 2 hrs every day now chasing around between ebay, paypal and here to get the tea leaves read.
This is not putting bucks in the bank, but it is putting grey hairs on my head.
Blackthorne is at this time not workable, it reminds me of Vendio with a lot of excuses and no solutions.
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neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:30:07 AM new
Bill - now I am confused (what else is new lol). I thought that ebay did away with TL and replaced it with Blackthorne??
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:36:12 AM new
Vendio and ebay with scheduling may be a wash but I would also have to pay for quality image hosting. I don't trust ebay's post-sale management at all. So Roger, when it comes down to it, we are paying Vendio for image hosting, scheduling and whatever other services we elect to use.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:47:44 AM new
Sorry - Christopher. I didn't mean to make this a Vendio bashing post. Many of us have needs that are not met by SMIE and have to find ways to workaround what we do have with SMME. I always like to read about different ways of doing things in hopes of streamlining my business. I don't think I am alone in this.
WHOA! your post disappeared!
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rpm757
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posted on March 27, 2006 11:52:52 AM new
i sell a lot of items that are in the buy it now categories.
I suffered for a long time with Vendio' lack of concern if that type of auction worked. They finally got that fixed and when someone bought something it was invoiced.
Sometimes i will sell 40 items to one person, so when it was not working it was just a big mess.
This situation with best offer and the store categories has just made me very angry with Vendio.
We are in a service business and we will not survive if we continue to make excuses for our area not performing. God knows I do not need help to p..s off people. I don't need something i am paying for to increase my tension level.
The pictures are a major reason i have kept with Vendio. Ebay pictures are not it. But when I find the solution I am out of here.
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ChristopherCS
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posted on March 27, 2006 12:15:01 PM new
Hello neglus,
Other than the process of getting switched over to the SMIE program, what wasn't it going to be able to help you address with taking items that you had listed to eBay and placing them into your eBay storefront?
Regards,
Christopher
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 12:41:36 PM new
Christopher,
I was the one having the problem with SMIE from SMME. I sent you an email.
Bill
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 12:43:46 PM new
Neglus,
No you are not. I totally agree and I do like the image hosting. ABe has been very helpful to me on any problem I might have. I sent you an email from eBay.
Bill
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 12:44:40 PM new
Roger,
I would send you an email but I do not know what your eBay ID is.
Bill
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ChristopherCS
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posted on March 27, 2006 12:56:32 PM new
Bill,
Neglus was also working on switching over to the SMIE program, as listing items to either your eBay storefront and then submitting those same items to auction (or vise versa) is best done via Inventory.
Trying to use tools that weren't specifically setup to list to both venues from a single entry will make the process more complicated and essentially only a workaround to avoid getting the items setup where they should be managed from the start.
Regards,
Christopher
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neglus
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posted on March 27, 2006 12:59:00 PM new
Honestly Christopher I did not get far enough in to SMIE to see all that it offered. I have 7000 UNIQUE items currently listed in my ebay store and list about 1200 UNIQUE items/month using SMME. It just seemed TOOOOOOOO time consuming to try to list and relist by managing 8200 UNIQUE items in inventory folders.
Since you SAY SMIE is designed for sellers selling multiples of the SAME ITEM, then I have to think that it isn't really for me and that I would have invested time to learn something that in the end wouldn't work as well for me as I what I have now. That's one of the reasons I don't go to one of your competitors (name starting with "M" - I have heard that their learning curve is too high).
Besides, when I switched over, it looked like all of my "PROFILES" (and I have over 100 of them with the verbage, categories, links to specific similar items in my ebay store, etc prefilled on the form.) were not included in "Inventory" ao I would have to develop some "master" inventory folders or do a lot of copy pasting.
I realize that SMIE is a brand new way of handling the listing task and it can't be approached in the same way as SMME.However, if the designers SAY it is designed for INVENTORY sellers and I am not an "Inventory" seller then I think I'm better of "passing" on it.
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BillsHobbyEmporium
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posted on March 27, 2006 01:07:50 PM new
Chris,
Yes and I was trying to go to SMIE to get my old eBay items into a Vendio format and was running into problems getting the inventory folders to show up somewhat (I guess from Neglus reply) the same problem as Neglus. I know that after talking to Abe on the phone that the way to do what I wanted to do was to go to SMIE. Like I said I like your images and to be able to use the template. I understand how the SMIE works but it did not work for me and I found a much easier way at least to get the text changes in that I need to do. A good store manager changes items and displays to attract different people at different times but it must be an easy thing to do.
Bill
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