APRIL19
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posted on January 1, 2003 09:01:39 PM new
I have several I would like to share but would probably be just a waste of my time.
Some @sshole bid on and won 20 of my auctions and then wrote an e-mail in English saying he does not understand English and will not pay for any of them.
As Fetish128 would say
"NEG the dumb SOB and file for fees..... "
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Libra63
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posted on January 1, 2003 10:51:09 PM new
We probably could post them but I don't think AW would let us share them I think it is against their rules.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could do that we ceratinly could weed out alot of ebay'rs that way. If they can't bid then why be there.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 2, 2003 10:18:38 AM new
Don't post them on AW. Don't publish any personal contact info anywhere. A web page with lists of deadbeat user ids is fine, but if I were administering such a page, I would insist that the seller contributing the deadbeat's id has to leave a negative feedback for that deadbeat.
Otherwise it's all innuendo and hearsay.
And remember, you can only block 1000 eBay user ids. Seems like a lot now, but wait until you've been at it awhile.
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stopwhining
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posted on January 2, 2003 11:07:34 AM new
if 1000 is not enough,you need to look at what you sell and how you sell .
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msincognito
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posted on January 2, 2003 01:38:44 PM new
traderlist.com lists many "bad" sellers. I have seen a few that seem to be buyers on there as well. Largely concerned with Beanie Babies and other collectibles, but I've noticed transactions for all kinds of things on there.
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stopwhining
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posted on January 2, 2003 03:13:40 PM new
traderlist.com -
wow,who is going to check on these buyers and sellers?
is there a search function?
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OPRMOND2000
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posted on January 2, 2003 07:27:05 PM new
We don't need to post them, just e-mail each other with the most recent, worst ones. Include the auction ID, and I like the idea of the seller being required to have left neg. feedback.
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stopwhining
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posted on January 2, 2003 07:28:42 PM new
my point is -if the seller needs to block more than 1000 bidders,the seller should be banned from selling on ebay.
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OPRMOND2000
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posted on January 2, 2003 08:01:38 PM new
Hey, Ebay shut down my latest jerk. I guess someone there is awake. Also I agree if a buyer needs more than 1000 blocks they need to try another line of work.
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hotcupoftea
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posted on January 2, 2003 10:36:35 PM new
A seller on the Power Seller Discussion Board posted this NPB excuse - no, it isn't mine. Thank goodness. My favorite NPB was a few years ago from a fellow who said he was at his father's computer answering emails, told me his dad was the bidder and could not pay for the item because he has been in the hospital for the past month dying, and he is now dead. I replied, if he was in the hospital dying how was he able to bid and win my auction 15 days ago.
copy and paste+++++++++++++++++copy and paste
I regrettingly inform you that Mr. XXXXX was killed in a car wreck Christmas
Day by a drunk driver that ran a stopllight. As usual, the drunk driver was
not hurt. This was his six accident on four years adn the first fatal one.
We have found his password and are emailing all his friends and
acquanitances.... as wwell as responding to other emails.
There was a problem with his mastercard that they had mistakenly frozen his
car and we have since got it straightened out. If there is something that he
tried to purchase.. please let us know and we will send you a cashier's
check for the amount..... We apologize for any inconvenience that this has
caused you......
We will be monitoring his emails for the next month as we are not sure of all
his friends or acquantices. I can assure you he was an upstding individual,
an airline pilot who worked in the slums of Memphis on his days off helping
less fortuante people get their education and helped over 160 gang members
get their GEDs in one year.. and he was white and wealthy and didnt need to
do that in his days off.
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shop4shoes
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posted on January 3, 2003 12:08:09 AM new
my point is -if the seller needs to block more than 1000 bidders,the seller should be banned from selling on ebay.
Why?
There is a seller with over 200,000 positives, that on average has 1000 auctions running per day. I am willing to bet they have more than 1000 deadbeats.
I have one deadbeat that has 30-35 different ids. If every deadbeat did that, I would only be able to block around 27 users. She is an extreme case though and I remove her ids as ebay suspends them. If you sell a lot, 1000 may not be enough and it has nothing to do with how or what you are selling.
Apparel does seem to bring out the beasts though.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 06:46:06 AM new
my point is -if the seller needs to block more than 1000 bidders,the seller should be banned from selling on ebay.
As usual, oh big mouth with multiple personalities, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Could someone post again the list of stopwhining's alternate personas? I'm putting this creature on Ignore and want to make sure I get all of them.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 06:48:00 AM new
hotcupoftea: Obviously that deadbeat never heard the advice "keep your lies simple".
It's true. The more detail you add, the less believable you become.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 06:53:38 AM new
Unfortunately for those of us who are intent on becoming hugely successful selling on eBay, the auction discussion boards are crammed full of people who don't sell very much.
Thus, they cannot imagine anything outside their own narrow world view.
Yes, the 1000 name limitation is too low. I block everyone who stiffs us on our main seller id, plus everyone who stiffs us on any of our secondary seller ids. Then I keep the list consistent across seller ids. It's all worth it when I get a "You've got me blocked from your auction but I've never bought anything from you. Help!" email. Bwah hah hah. Be careful who you stiff, morons.
Most likely many of the blocked names have been NARU'd and could be safely removed from the list, but there is no automated method for checking that. The bidder block feature needs a LOT of work. I hope eBay is planning on refining it.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 06:55:35 AM new
Apparel does seem to bring out the beasts though.
Try jewelry, if you want to deal with the emotionally-damaged detritus of the earth. Apparel might start to look good. 
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stopwhining
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posted on January 3, 2003 07:12:17 AM new
Unfortunately for those of us who are intent on becoming hugely successful selling on eBay, the auction discussion boards are crammed full of people who don't sell very much.
Thus, they cannot imagine anything outside their own narrow world view.
Yes, the 1000 name limitation is too low. I block everyone who stiffs us on our main seller \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
LIKE I SAID ,SELLER SHOULD FIND A DIFFERENT LINE OF WORK.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 08:05:53 AM new
Hey, look! That Ignore feature works! Keen.
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stopwhining
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posted on January 3, 2003 08:08:49 AM new
good to know it works!!
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 08:25:20 AM new
At a minimum listing fee of 30 cents per auction, a bidder block list consisting of 1000 names represents information that cost $300 to obtain.
Actual cost is higher, unfortunately, since a few deadbeats get bid-happy before they go south. The human pond scum who stiffed me for 65 auctions comes to mind.
I'm getting the impression, though, that some of you may not know how large your bidder universe is. (Bidder universe being the total number of people who bid on your type of items, though not necessarily YOUR items.)
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stopwhining
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posted on January 3, 2003 09:08:55 AM new
does a leopard change its spots?
i see you are blocking on aw board,where else would you go next??
i have been on ebay for 7 years,i remember when the total listings 20,000 and we all said wow,could it get bigger??
when it got to 1 million,we just said it cant go any higher than this?
and each year it keeps going up and up.
my family practice MD posted a list of past patients restrained to come near the clinic,i wonder why??
say if i have a restaurant and i posted a list of 1000 past customers/deadbeats/troublemakers not allowed to eat in my restaurant,is that a plus for my business??
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shop4shoes
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posted on January 3, 2003 10:59:00 AM new
my family practice MD posted a list of past patients restrained to come near the clinic,i wonder why??
Chances are the dumba**es could not be served the restraining order, so the MD posted the list to make sure everything was legal like, when they are arrested for coming too close.
if i have a restaurant and i posted a list of 1000 past customers/ deadbeats/ troublemakers allowed to eat in my restaurant,is that a plus for my business
YEP! If I saw even one person on the list that I hated, my meal would go down just that much smoother knowing they would not be eating there.
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jensmome
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posted on January 3, 2003 11:16:59 AM new
Whoa! This is really going downhill fast!
I would love to be able to tap into a list of deadbeats and spree bidders. Sprees are a much worse risk for me in the categorie I sell in because by the time I figure it out I'm stiffed. I just can't see a way to do it without leaving someone open to a charge of slander. Not that I think deadbeats would be looking to see if they are listed.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 03:21:54 PM new
jensmome: Would you be willing to leave negative feedback for each id you contributed?
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hotcupoftea
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posted on January 3, 2003 05:27:16 PM new
Most likely many of the blocked names have been NARU'd and could be safely removed from the list, but there is no automated method for checking that.
Fluffy, eBay reinstates NARUed ids all the time, even years after the suspension. Don't remove ids from your BBL unless you have seen the original death certificate for the person registered to that id, and that might not even be safe. Best to never delete an id from the BBL.
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dacreson
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posted on January 3, 2003 05:33:36 PM new
......required to have left neg. feedback.
I agree this thread is headed the wrong way but did note several comments like the above. Usally giving a Negative to a buyer will get you nothing but one back and the buyer is still thier to worry you or another seller. File for those fees back, all the way. Usally three of THOSE and they are gone looking for another ID.
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jensmome
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posted on January 3, 2003 05:37:22 PM new
Yes. My problem is I'd like to do the neg at or around 60 days (Chicken, I know) but I keep forgetting. This year I have a calendar and I'm marking it for everything!
I sort of understand the need for a neg but some stupid deadbeats would argue that not all negs are deserved. Just saying...
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 3, 2003 11:08:35 PM new
dacreson: I think you missed the point.
The idea was to have a deadbeat list, which presumably all sellers could contribute to. This is separate and distinct from any remedies available through eBay, such as filing for final value fees.
Don't get the two confused.
I said that if I were administering such a list, I would require a negative feedback for each deadbeat from each complaining seller. It's the only way I can think of to guarantee that buyer and seller even had a transaction. Sellers should be negging their deadbeats, anyway, though I know there are lots of you who don't.
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stopwhining
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posted on January 4, 2003 06:43:32 AM new
this thread is going down the toilet!
most ebay sellers do not have to block 1000 bidders and dont need a list of deadbeats.
i have been selling on ebay for 7 years and i dont see a need to do so.
most ebay sellers dont need that either.
the excuse that the more you sell,the more you need a list is hogwash,does mcdonald needs a list of customers not allowed in the store??
in the brick and mortar world,there will always be customers who whine and nickpick,return items,not pick up items etc.
bookstores will tell you how many customers do not bother to pick up the backordered books.
with billpoint and paypal,ebay bidders are paying promptly and helping us to improve our cashflow position,would someone like to talk about how good that is??
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mcjane
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posted on January 4, 2003 12:41:07 PM new
I filed an alert against a NPB & received an email from her with a list of reasons why she forgot to pay.
She ended her email saying:
"If you don't believe any of these excuses let me know, I can make up some more. "
She is my favorite NPB & she did pay.
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shop4shoes
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posted on January 4, 2003 12:50:54 PM new
the excuse that the more you sell,the more you need a list is hogwash,does mcdonald needs a list of customers not allowed in the store??
In my state McDonalds franchises DO have a list of people that are not allowed on their premises. In many instances they get a "tresspass warrant".
Sears, JCPenny's, TJMaxx, Ross, Lane Bryant, Discount Auto Parts, All of the local malls and shopping strips, ( I could name many more) have the names and in many cases photos of people who are not allowed on their property. It is not uncommon for retailers to have such a list. The list for my local Sears is huge.
I am sure it is the same all over the United States.
A customer is someone that purchases something. Just coming into a store does not make you a customer.
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