macandjan
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posted on September 2, 2000 06:10:32 PM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 09:51 PM ]
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abacaxi
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posted on September 2, 2000 06:59:22 PM
I've heard it mentioned. Now we know why they were so reluctant to support anti-spam bills ... they plan on spamvertising for votes.
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amalgamated2000
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posted on September 2, 2000 07:39:34 PM
Any idea how they got your address?
I do web site work for political candidates, and I can't imagine any serious candidate (or thier campaign staff at least) being stupid enough to send spam. Much less the RNC itself. But apparently they are...
By the way, for all of you Doubleclick "fans" out there, I understand that some campaigns are using Doubleclick to target their ads...
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EyeOfNute
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posted on September 2, 2000 07:47:58 PM
amalgamated2000
How about all the other stupid stuff?
So why not spamavote?
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abacaxi
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posted on September 2, 2000 07:58:31 PM
And we can call it ........
SPAMPAINING
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macandjan
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:02:54 PM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 09:52 PM ]
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amalgamated2000
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:08:23 PM
EyeOfNewt (Gingrich??),
All I know is that whoever is responsible for this needs to hire a good web consultant to repair the damage that they've done. And I just might know someone who is available.
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amalgamated2000
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:11:12 PM
Online voting is already a reality. I believe Arizona and Alaska (could be wrong on the specifics) have alread allowed online voting in primary elections.
I think it's a bad idea. But now that digital signatures are legal, I assure you online voting will become very widespread.
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macandjan
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:12:01 PM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 09:52 PM ]
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Frogleg
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:14:01 PM
amalgamated2000
A Spamrich and a coke. Want fries with that?
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macandjan
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:19:38 PM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 09:53 PM ]
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amalgamated2000
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:28:18 PM
Macandjan,
I'm familiar with Yesmail.com. They claim to be an "opt-in" system, meaning that, at some point, you gave someone permission to email you. I would guess that it's probably related to your Juno account.
But this is a prime example of the hazards of using opt-in email marketing -- if the customer doesn't remember giving you permission, they still consider it spam. (And probably rightly so.)
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macandjan
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:33:35 PM
Silly me - If I gave them permission some time in the past I did not think it was to drop any unrelated thing in the world that hit their fancy into my mailbox. I will be dropping that address soon and my new addresses for the DSL I will give nobody permission to mail me.
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EyeOfNute
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:39:09 PM
amalgamated2000
GREAT SCOTT....I've been insulted...A duel is in order here......**slap**
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amalgamated2000
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posted on September 2, 2000 08:41:29 PM
Macandjan,
As I said, I think you are probably right in considering this spam. BUT, I often see sellers here complaining that buyers do not read their "Terms of Sale." This is the same kind of deal. If you agree to something, it's your responsibility to know what you are agreeing to.
Just as there is no such thing as a free lunch, their is no such thing as free internet service. There's always a cost. Unfortunately, it appears that that for some services, one of the costs is agreeing to recieve spam whenever they decide to send it to you.
I just wonder exactly what Yesmail told the RNC when they agreed to this deal.
[ edited by amalgamated2000 on Sep 2, 2000 08:43 PM ]
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macandjan
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posted on September 3, 2000 04:17:10 AM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 09:53 PM ]
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abacaxi
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posted on September 3, 2000 04:40:56 AM
Macanjan -
Please post the FULL headers! And you might want to visit news.admin.net-abuse.email and chat in the obvious threads, like "REPUBLICAN NC SPAM via YESMAIL ... Sighted! "
Yesmail is a supposed "opt-in" group, but they will take ANY list you give them if you claim it's opt-in ... and we know how politicians are.
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macandjan
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posted on September 3, 2000 07:10:24 AM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 09:54 PM ]
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abacaxi
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posted on September 3, 2000 07:36:33 AM
macanjan -
Thanks. That leads RIGHT to yesmail. If you were to automatically dump everything from yesmail into the trash you wouldn't miss anything.
They are getting real close to being in the RBL and there's not much they can do about it when people decide to refuse their attempts at mailing.
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uaru
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posted on September 3, 2000 08:16:00 AM
I remember a story about a political campaign where the candidate had a truck with a loud speaker go through neighborhoods early one Sunday morning broadcasting the campaign slogans for candidate "X". The truck was hired by candidate "A". 
If I was going to use spam email for an election cause I'd use a similar approach.
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hpetereit
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posted on September 3, 2000 12:21:14 PM
Hi Everyone - I don't know if I'm whistling in the right cubicle or not -BUT- I was getting buried with SPAM more and more frequently until my son; the computer guru in our family, sicked me onto www.brightmail.com and, by George, they really put the "kabosh" to much of my SPAM...really!! Check 'em out - it's free!
Cheers! Herb
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bhearsch
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posted on September 3, 2000 01:28:29 PM
I have an interesting observation about yesmail. Some time ago I decided to do a search on WHOIS for the tracking bug that is located on AW's home page:
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<td width="244" valign="top"><!--- Affiliate Avenue A ----->
<img height=1 width=1 src="http://switch.avenuea.com/action/auctionwatch_homepage"><IMG SRC='http://tracking.ym0.net/im2.asp?LID=10998-6457' width=0 height=0><a href="/buyer.html"><img src="/img/homepage/buyer_services.gif" width="210" height="37" border="0"></a></td>
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I discovered the domain for http://tracking.ym0.net to be yesmail.com owned by Superhighway Consulting. I have been blocking this bug since it was first introduced here and I'm not receiving any spam. Food for thought!!
Blanche
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abacaxi
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posted on September 3, 2000 05:17:18 PM
The person who appears to be in charge of this spam-fest is:
Peter Sekulow
[email protected]
Director, Interactive Services
(202) 863-8525
Or you could complani to:
[email protected]
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