posted on September 3, 2000 01:54:24 PM
Hi - I picked up this platter at a yard sale and wonder if it's worth listing. It's in great shape - no chips, cracks, etc. - but the 'gold' around the edge is wearing off and it has 'age cracks' all over. Does anyone here know anything about it?
(By the way, it's not dirty - that 'discoloration' is part of the pattern.)
[ edited by barbarake on Sep 3, 2000 01:55 PM ]
posted on September 3, 2000 02:12:38 PM
Might as well list it. I found an antique Railroad china plate at a garage sale for 1.00, and it had chips and wear. Almost didn't buy it, even for 1.00. It brought 203.50.
posted on September 3, 2000 02:24:50 PM
My guess is that "discoloration" is not "part of the pattern," but staining as a result of the overall crazing you describe.
Go ahead and list it. Remember to use "shabby chic" in the description It'll probably do just fine.
posted on September 3, 2000 03:04:37 PM
It / Looks Like / an old Homer Laughlin set I saw at an auction in Dayton last year. But, I think they marked all of their pieces.
posted on September 3, 2000 03:21:02 PM
It is Homer Laughlin, but not worth anything. Lots of Homer Laughlin is unmarked. It is stained from the crazing, and impossible to remove without bleaching. Bleaching does not take away the actual age crazing either. Also, it looks as if most of the gold trim is gone. You might put it up and see if you get a bid on it, maybe someone is looking for this and do not care that it is so damaged? I will look for the shape and decal for you. Heather
Does the edge have a an upraised dot-dash-dot-dash? If so it is the Eggshell Georgian Shape. I looked though all the Georgian patterns, but do not see anything that resembles this, looks to be not a popular pattern at all. They began making the Georgian shape in 1937 if that helps any.
She is right, it could also be the Liberty shape, but very hard to tell with out more of a close-up of the edge.
[ edited by hcross on Sep 3, 2000 03:30 PM ]
posted on September 3, 2000 03:34:43 PM
Read the thread about broken treasures, then list it. I could certainly use the parts with the roses on it. And the white sections as filler pieces.
posted on September 3, 2000 03:39:42 PM
On second look, I have a partial set of china that is not HL. It's the Federal Pattern of Syracuse china. Looks similar to yours.
posted on September 3, 2000 03:44:40 PM
mtnmama: Def. not the Federal shape, the decal may be simliar though. I just love the Federal shape, does very well on ebay, and is so pretty. Heather
posted on September 3, 2000 03:57:06 PM
Oh my--it is crazed and discolored to hell and back--looks like the gold trim is worn. Am I missing something here? Retire it to those wonderful halls of "Chubby Shiek" and see how they bid
posted on September 3, 2000 05:26:37 PM
The discoloration is not part of the pattern. It appears to be water stains, caused by water being left in platter too long. This often happens to semi-paste porcelain, which is porous, as opposed to porcelain.
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posted on September 3, 2000 05:32:04 PM
Shoshana, It is pottery, that is why I get so many bargains on it. Also, if any of you have collections of dinnerware and there is any crazing on it, if it gets dusty and is not wiped clean every so often the dust will cause the crazing to discolor. Also, the people who ship an item wrapped in newspaper only are running the risk of ruining it. The newsprint also goes into the crazing causing it to turn a godawful black. Heather
posted on September 3, 2000 06:24:59 PM
I had almost a whole set of HL that had discolored and soaked it in clear 20 volume peroxide and then into a low oven so the gunk would rise to the top and could be wiped off. I had to do each dish 4 or 5 times but they restored beautifully.
Unlike bleach there are no salts to eat the glaze and it actually brightens the colors.
I had listed some of the Federal Syracuse some time ago and couldn't get one bid. Do you think I should try again? The china is very old, yellowed in fact.
posted on September 3, 2000 07:51:21 PM
mtnmama: It is a lot like Homer Laughlin, many decal patterns within the Federal Shape. Do you know your decal pattern name? I look at Syracuse quite a bit, and here is what I have noticed. (probably true in any category) It is normally a very popular shape and goes high, but sellers make the mistake of starting it high, then it sits with no bids. I was looking at Federal just a little while ago and there were some pieces listed with high starting bids, no bids, and pieces that were started low but were getting up there. I had a covered dish last week in Homer Laughlin, I knew it would do well, I started it out low, about half what I paid for it, and watched it go to more than double what I had paid. You want people to think they are getting a bargain. Let me know if I can help further. I do notice that Syaracuse, like most other pottery is pretty down right now. Heather
posted on September 3, 2000 08:06:18 PM
I once heard about putting something like this in a pan of water in the oven and baking it on high - was supposed to get all the gunk out. Anyone ever try it? I have never been brave enough to try -Rosalinda
posted on September 3, 2000 08:22:03 PM
Hmm--- all for putting this platter into a hot oven in water and seeing it burst into a gazzilion tiny fragments. Just on Rosalinda's recommendation --mind you Rosalinda--you are the pen ultimate in on line auctions advise----watch out for straying into my friggin catgegories My best to ya----and remember I still see you in my near sightedness as MRGROUP.
posted on September 3, 2000 09:04:52 PM
Never heard of the hot water and high heat method. The peroxide soaking low heat recipe is from a friend who does restoration at a museum here in DC. They have vats and all sorts of chemical safe guards. I forgot to add she advises to NOT to wash the piece first. I learned from experience that she was right. She claims that untouched pieces that haven't seen soap or water for years come out best with this method. Something about the hot water driving the gunk further into the piece.
This has worked for me for everything except ironstone and heavy well vitrified pieces.
It'll probably do just fine.