posted on September 8, 2000 04:51:02 AM
Anyone else notice a large number of eBay related SPAM messages lately in their mailbox? I got 3 different ones last night and 2 more this morning. Wonder how these SPAMMERS are getting our personal info???
posted on September 8, 2000 05:58:45 AM
Spammers join eBay just to suck the addresses of to spam.
I've had THREE from the same scum-sucking lying relay-abusing spammer in the past two days. He's spamming FROM UU.NET, relaying through open mail servers (russia and germany so far) and promoting various pages on his website hosted by VERIO.NET ([email protected])
I've reported him every time, but VERIO is a tad slow to kill the website ... possibly time to escalate to UU.NET and get his dialup whacked.
Make that FOUR ... another one just came in. He's now recycling every MMF and get-free-money scam on the net, just giving it an eBay twist.
posted on September 8, 2000 08:17:47 AM
I've gotten a lot of eBay-twisted spam in the last few months, though I haven't seen a sudden surge in the last few days or anything, possibly because I have not been a very active bidder since eBay got in bed with DoubleClick.
I haven't a clue how eBay could stop spammers from skimming addresses, though I would hope that if they find a spammer's eBay ID, that they sue the bloodsucker.
Of course, there aren't many laws on the books yet, and I know congresspeople have been swayed by the direct marketing lobbies.
Ironically, though, even the Direct Marketing Association (DMA), whose love of pushing junk at people who don't want it, and active hatred of opt-in has earned my intense dislike, apparently also thinks that spam is a major problem that is blocking the path of online advertisements to some greater level of "credibility."
I'd disagree with what would make online ad consistently credible, but find it ironic to be otherwise agreeing with the DMA on this one point.
"Just delete it" doesn't really work. If there weren't people fighting spammers tooth and nail, email boxes would seen be brimming with tens or even hundreds of junk emails a day, because unlike snail mail, it costs extremely little for the spammer to send the junk -- most of the cost is shifted to the recipient and recipient's ISP (like they were for junk faxes before laws were passed that cut almost all of this).
One thing eBay could do is limit the use of "bid history | with emails" (the latter portion) to only the auction's seller, because it is obviously easier to skim addresses from a few auctions with high bid counts than numerous auctions with low bid counts. Indeed, I wonder if the only person who should have access to any bidder addresses is the seller.
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What's being done in the name of direct marketing nowadays is crazy.
The above are all just my opinions, except where I cite facts as such.
Oh, I am not dc9a320 anywhere except AW. Any others are not me.
Is eBay is changing from a world bazaar into a bizarre world?
posted on September 8, 2000 08:54:33 AM
You can block spammers. If using Outlook just go to message, and click block and it will block any emails from those i/p's. You can also go into message and click 'create rule' anc put in any I/P addresses, key words that spammers use and it will block them from your email box. I use both of those and haven't had any spam in almost a year. Once in a while one will sneak in but I than use there keywords and add another rule and those are blocked. Also put ZONE ALARM on your computer (it's free unless you want to upgrade) and it will prevent anyone trying to get to your system when you get to the internet. I've notice prodigy is one that tries to get to my system if I view ebay sellers auctions using prodigy. It blocks it from accessing my system and harvesting any emails or info I may have here.
Another way to find out if you're being harvested is to go to START, click RUN, type in REEDIT than click enter. It will take you to your registry. Look in all that say software and look for a file that say AUERATE. If it's there it is harvesting what you are using on your computer as far as software, the demographics of where you visit on the internet, etc. I have other programs in place that I paid bucks for to keep these type fools out. It's none of their business what programs I buy and use or don't use.
You will have them on your system and not know it because alot of free type programs we use are using these services to harvast from our computers and we don't even know it and those that do know don't care because it is free, but essentially it isn't free because we are paying a price for our freedom, freedom to do what we want and have what we want on our computers.
The FBI now monitors places like AMAZON, BOOK WAREHOUSE, BOOKS A MILLION and other bookstore to see who is buying what and especially highly controversial books. Weather we like it or not we are being monitored but we can do something about it and protect our freedoms if we want to but we must be willing to pay to do so, just like we are paying to give out our information and most of us aren't aware of it.
posted on September 8, 2000 09:31:30 AM
I have ZoneAlarm, blocks on my e-mail and am going nuts with the time it takes to "block" all the new spam. You can't block them until you get them and every darn one of them seems to have a different e-mail address. Last night and this morning I'm getting the ebaY ones that want to sell me a book on how to earn $1000 a week selling on ebaY and other nonsense.
@vega.lia.univ-avignon.fr
This is the last part of the e-mail address wanting to sell me information on how to get a cash grant to sell on ebaY.
@ns.econ.novsu.ac.ru
Should these be turned into Spam.cop or ebaY or both. I get close to 100 e-mails a day and these are getting to be a real pain. Usually I just block and delete but things are getting out of hand. I know the argument comparing Spam to junk mail, but percentage wise the Spam is worse.
posted on September 8, 2000 03:36:16 PM
I thought it was just me! I just became a seller, as you all know, and the number of spam e-mails I've received since signing up with Auction Manager Pro is incredible! What's up with that??? When I was a buyer I got NO spam e-mails, and now that's all I get!
posted on September 8, 2000 03:38:05 PM
I thought it was just me! I just became a seller, as you all know, and the number of spam e-mails I've received since signing up with Auction Manager Pro is incredible! What's up with that??? When I was a buyer I got NO spam e-mails, and now that's all I get!
posted on September 8, 2000 03:40:57 PM
I've been getting quite a bit of spam lately related to online selling, etc. I'm pretty sure it's a result of email harvesting on eBay. I turn 'em in using the spamcop site.
It takes a bit more time than just deleting the email but I once actually got a response from an ISP in Europe saying that particular account was closed as a result of my report and others. Sure the spammer just gets another account there or elsewhere but what the hey.
posted on September 8, 2000 04:45:32 PM
I thought it was just me! I just became a seller, as you all know, and the number of spam e-mails I've received since signing up with Auction Manager Pro is incredible! What's up with that??? When I was a buyer I got NO spam e-mails, and now that's all I get!
posted on September 8, 2000 05:46:16 PM
I have recently been receiving online auction related spam and I NEVER received it before. Also, I haven't sold or purchased anything since early July. I believe this may be a direct result of the tracking bugs on AW and eBay or someone may be selling our information. In my case, I think it's the latter since I have been blocking the web bugs from their first arrival but it's still possible that I didn't block them in time.
I mentioned in an earlier thread that AW's homepage is bugged and I did a search for WHOIS on this web bug's URL, http://tracking.ym0.net, and discovered the Domain to be Yesmail.com owned by Superhighway Consulting. I am now wondering if the increased spam is related to Avenuea.
Of course eBay has these tracking devices as well and it really seems too much of a coincidence that the level of spam has increased after these bugs were instituted. After all, that's their entire purpose.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:31:48 PM
I have been getting more Spam too. I only received one or two all summer, possibly when I went into EBay or Auctionwatch. I haven't sold anything, but just bid on an item for the first time since May. Junk emails started immediately. But, I do believe it started when I was surfing the categories.
I didn't receive any Spam for the first two years I owned my computer. I signed up to buy on Bay and received one about making money on the internet. EBay sent a letter stating it was probably from another site, not theirs. It was downhill from there. When I starting listing it doubled.
I get a large amount of normal emails, and I do not want any kind of Spam. I really don't think posters should belittle others [in other threads] who do not want their unsolicited junk–-or others junk. And I wish they would keep in mind that EBay users are at computers used for other occupations, environmental causes, school emails, etc. We shouldn't have to click & delete anything
we didn't ask to have sent!
I am venting because I am getting what looks like foreign spam now too. Night before last I went into the German & English EBay sites to look around, hadn't been there before. Yesterday morning I received Spam from Berlin and one last night from France. Are these what others are
getting? One was already listed here:
@vega.lia.univ-avignon.fr
So maybe it wasn't from tracking at the foreign sites?
I am still trying to get the headers to send to Spamcop. Any one know how I can find the headings on my setup? I use Eudora and IE or Netscape. Thanks!
I think our congresspersons should get a few hundred printouts of these emails in their postboxes each week. Maybe they would do something about it.
Not computer-oriented....LabRat.
[Scum-suckers––I like it!]
[ edited by labrat4gmos on Sep 8, 2000 06:35 PM ]
posted on September 8, 2000 10:27:06 PM
I have honestly not seen any spam from eBay, but if they ARE spamming, that would explain why my EOA's for Sunday just arrive in my mail box TODAY (Friday)!!!! I know it was a Holiday weekend, but guess what...I was at work on Monday, and also handled my auctions on Monday.......gimme a break!
Keith
I assume full responsibility for my actions, except
the ones that are someone else's fault.
posted on September 8, 2000 10:46:49 PM
Hello labrat4gmos. You can get the headers in IE by right clicking on the unopened email and choose PROPERTIES, then click on DETAILS and MESSAGE SOURCE. Copy the entire contents of the MESSAGE SOURCE and paste it in the appropriate box on the spamcop site. I just sent in two last night.
posted on September 9, 2000 12:07:57 AM
I received a payment from a bidder today and part of his letter stated, "Do not send spam to me as a result of this transaction. If you do I will report you to ebay."
I have never sent spam to my past bidders. At first I was offended by this, but then I just realized that this poor bidder must be getting tons of spam and is sick of it.
I shipped this bidders item out today and when I send them the email telling them that the item is on its way I will let the bidder know that I never send spam.
posted on September 9, 2000 12:53:30 AMkellyb1: That is one (of many) measures of how sick and tired people are of spam. It is beyond a nuisance, to instead being a total plague.
Anywhere you sign up with your email is a risk (how much depends on their privacy policy, how well they follow it, and how their site is set up) of getting sold out or skimmed by spammers, thus getting even more mail.
Now I can't say for sure, since my main address is used in a small handful of places (eBay, AW, on a mailing list that just moved to eGroups), but ever since eBay climbed in bed with DoubleClick and started covering all their users in cookies and bugs, my spam rate has increased by 130-fold, from 6 spams in all of 19 months to 6 spams every four days, even though I've been taking active measures to try and block the cookies/bugs and so on.
Spam is a major component of the reasons I won't do any other ecommerce outside of eBay.
Well, that's just how I feel, anyway.
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What's being done in the name of direct marketing nowadays is crazy.
The above are all just my opinions, except where I cite facts as such.
Oh, I am not dc9a320 anywhere except AW. Any others are not me.
Is eBay is changing from a world bazaar into a bizarre world?
[ Edited to add parenthetical to second paragraph. ]
[ edited by dc9a320 on Sep 9, 2000 12:55 AM ]
posted on September 9, 2000 05:19:40 AM
I received messages from ebay that they got the guy in Shreveport/Texas who was SPAM bombing. I blocked him after the 5th or 6th message.
Well this guy doesn't give up!! New mail, same message, same person, same IP, same convoluted route by different forged headers. This one is a real beauty reads from eBay Member Support. Tenacity, you have to love it.
posted on September 9, 2000 06:51:56 AM
Thanks bhearsch!
Thanks to all of you who provided Spamcop and spam blocking site information over the past few months.
I emailed Yahoo once, stating that I didn't want their customer's spam and sent a copy of their no-spam statement. They wrote back and said while they would need headings, they recognized the email and the ISP was already dealing with the guy. Good.
posted on September 9, 2000 07:09:41 AM
Since yesterday, I have received seven pieces of e-mail, all SPAM and all with subjects like: Dear eBay Member.
Today takes the cake. I got an e-mail that was "from" ebay Member Services and the subject was Important Note for eBay users. I actually thought this one was from eBay until the preview pane showed it was a Qualify for Grants! message.
posted on September 9, 2000 10:04:06 AM
Spam is annoying enough, but I got an email this morning from [email protected]. Of course, this person is not affiliated with ebay, or ebay member services. An email like that is as infuriating as direct mailings disquised to look like official government letters. I usually just delete spam, but this time forwarded it to safeharbor -- as though it will do any good.
posted on September 9, 2000 10:22:53 AM
The spam, that is ebay related, has gotten much worse in the last month. There's software being sold on ebay by a few sellers that allows someone to send 10,000 spams at a time, and also not be detected by their ISP. The bids on those items are pretty good. So I'm sure that is the reason for the influx of spam.
I use two spam blockers and it doesn't block new addresses, which I'm sure they change on a weekly basis. "Accept Credit Cards" is the most common one I receive. Then the "This CD is banned on ebay," I get often. Deleting and being done with it is fine, but it's like using a spray on an engine leak- it's only good for a few days. It is truly annoying and a waste of my time. What I have started to do is foward all spam to my Congressman. So when I get a lot of spam, my Congressman gets it too. Everyone shoud do the same.
"If you lend someone $20, and never see that person again, it was probably worth it."
posted on September 9, 2000 11:22:33 AM
guyuelles: "The FBI now monitors places like AMAZON, BOOK WAREHOUSE, BOOKS A MILLION and other bookstore to see who is buying what and especially highly controversial books".
posted on September 10, 2000 07:15:19 AM
Just got SPAM from new SPAMMER harvesting email addys from eBay. Someone complaining they got tossed off of eBay for selling one of those useless informational CD's.
This SPAMMER is a real gem. The disclaimer in this SPAM is a load of crap used by
SPAMMERS to try to intimidate people.
This is House bill nothing more. You need a corresponding Senate bill to be
passed and it has to be signed into law by the President to be a law and
mean anything.
We immediately honor all requests to be removed from this=20
list. This message is being sent to you in compliance with
the Federal legislation for commercial e-mail (H.R.4176 -=20
Section 101, Paragraph (e)(1)(a)) and Bill s.1618 Title III=20
passed by the 105th US Congress. Code 001
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posted on September 10, 2000 07:20:27 AM
I got ALL that you all talked about and they have been coming in droves. I had VERY heavy ebay activity in the last 30 days. Coincidence?????? I doubt it since you have all had the same problem. I hate it as bad a junk mail......only I can throw that in the trash.spam just takes a moment longer to delete
posted on September 10, 2000 07:28:06 AM
In an earlier thread someone suggested that the politicians will not stop spam because they want to be able to send us political material. I had complained about a big mail from the Republican National Committee.Turns out it was sent through some opt-in group but I sure don't know what I agreed to that was even remotly connected. If all the leadership of both parties was writhing on the floor in flames I wouldn't unzip and donate my "water" to them.
When I see these spams saying "Make $1,000 dollars a week selling on eBay." I think "That's all they promise? No real money? Who can live on $1,000 a week in a nice neighborhood with 2 cars? Do they ever go on vacation or buy gifts? Talk about faint praise.
Junk mail is just free packing after shredding.
[ edited by macandjan on Sep 10, 2000 07:29 AM ]
