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posted on September 29, 2000 03:58:59 PM new
Anyone know why a window pops up asking if I want to use it after clicking on catagory? Since I do not need to to get to the listings, I havent. Am sort of paranoid at this point about being tracked for more scam mail etc.
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abacaxi
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posted on September 30, 2000 04:22:32 AM new
Turn javascript OFF and you will not see any of those pesky things.
Or get any of the freeware POPUP KILLERS!
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dc9a320
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posted on September 30, 2000 10:58:41 AM new
In general (not just eBay), Javascript is rarely used in a meaningful, useful way. It can give certain things a "neat" or "cool" feel (such as recoloring graphics when you move your cursor over them), and once and a great while does something useful that couldn't be done otherwise. However, it is far more frequently used for annoying pop-up ads, making ads follow you around the screen as you scroll, altering your cursor, tracking purposes (including JS cookie handling), other gimmicky stuff, and also "hacker" exploits.
I usually keep it (and other active content such as Java and especially ActiveX) turned off. I scarcely miss JS, feeling compelled to turn it on only once and awhile (less often for Java, and never for AX).
Fortunately, I haven't seen the message you are reporting, but seriously, I'd recommend you turn off JS. It simply isn't needed on eBay, even if eBay is sticking in some ad tracking and maybe other JS junk.
I'm not sure I understand the "use it" part. Use what? Are you browsing, or trying to sell something? What is the exact message?
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What's being done in the name of direct marketing nowadays is crazy.
The above are all just my opinions, except where I cite facts as such.
Oh, I am not dc9a320 anywhere except AW. Any others are not me.
Is eBay is changing from a world bazaar into a bizarre world?
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Borillar
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posted on September 30, 2000 11:13:06 AM new
There is no place in an online auction for JavaScript In My Opinion.
JS makes those shopping carts work when you go to certain web sites to buy things. INstead of cookies being sent onto your pc, it keeps a tally for you.
JS also makes some very nice special effects that can make your visit to a web site much more fun. By changing your cursor into something interesting or nifty buttons and such, a visitor's experience can be heightened.
JS can be used for a lot of nasty things as well. It can pop up messages that can trick unwary persons into unknowlingly accept harmful code onto their pc; it can try to prevent you from leaving a web site by automatically reloading the page when you try to leave; and quite simply, it is much more bulky and takes longer for everyone to download that web page.
JS was supposed to be the "Next Generation" of code to replace HTML. But until changes are made and laws are strictly enforced, your best bet is to keep your JavaScript turned off in my opinion.
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quazz
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posted on September 30, 2000 02:44:18 PM new
I use java scripting on my auctions to activate 5 menu buttons that popup detailed company, item, shipping, feedback and warrentee infomation that would otherwise clutter up a very clean looking page.
No complaints from users yet, and the scripting works well with IE, Netscape and on AOL
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posted on September 30, 2000 03:30:38 PM new
to dc9a320 - I believe the window popped up after I clicked on a category in several instances and the question was asked about using Java Script. I was just browsing. I clicked on the "no" and went from there. I just wondered why e-Bay was using it. I have on a few instances clicked on a listing for an auction and come up with the same thing.
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smw
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posted on September 30, 2000 04:45:27 PM new
quazz: Maybe you haven't had any compliants but when I go to an auction and get a Java warning I back out at the speed of light.
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blueyes29
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posted on September 30, 2000 08:09:35 PM new
How does one go about turning this "off"...that and the "X" thing too. Hope it's easy...thanks 
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smw
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posted on September 30, 2000 08:21:36 PM new
I don't know how to turn it off in Netscape but for Internet Explorer:
Tools>Internet Options>Security>Custom>
Disable all the Active X, Java, Scripting, and Userdata Persistence.
Tools>Internet Options>Advanced>
Microsoft VM (Virtual Machine) uncheck all of the boxes.
If you think you may want to use any of this stuff you may want to check off prompt.
Click OK to back out, not the X or the changes won't be saved.
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Glenda
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posted on September 30, 2000 08:33:44 PM new
In Netscape:
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | uncheck Javascript
Note that the default Sell Your Item page on eBay requires that javascript be on (you can select the old form).
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rnrgroup
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posted on September 30, 2000 08:36:49 PM new
ebaY's pic hosting service requires you to download an ActiveX file in order for you to use their service - in my mind an EXCELLENT reason NOT to use it! -Rosalinda
TAGnotes - daily email synopsis about the Online Auction Industry
http://www.topica.com/lists/tagnotes
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reddeer
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posted on September 30, 2000 08:38:21 PM new
Hmmmmm. Last time I checked I thought using Javascript in auctions on eBay was against the rules? I'm certain a rep I know told me that last year?
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Glenda
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posted on October 1, 2000 12:36:01 AM new
Reddeer: The official rules say you can't use javascript on the boards or in feedback. There's nothing that I can find that prohibits it in an auction - though I think there should be.
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Borillar
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posted on October 1, 2000 01:38:15 AM new
Glenda: What about the Unofficial Rules?
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reddeer
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posted on October 1, 2000 02:01:43 AM new
Glenda ..... Ya, I can't find anything either, yet I'm certain at one time there was such a rule? Hmmmmmmm.
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Glenda
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posted on October 1, 2000 02:09:17 AM new
Reddeer: I honestly don't remember there ever being a rule about javascript in auctions - I went to look to see if it had changed.
Borillar: There is that, yeah.
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reddeer
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posted on October 1, 2000 09:24:04 AM new
Glenda ..... Maybe it was all a bad dream? BUT, I do know that just a short while back Katy had told me via email that JS was not allowed. Maybe I'll go pick her brain & see what she says?
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Glenda
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posted on October 1, 2000 09:53:08 AM new
Do that, Reddeer - and encourage her to pass along that it should be disallowed. Or maybe not specifically "javascript," but pop-up windows ....
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reddeer
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posted on October 11, 2000 06:21:12 AM new
Ok, it took awhile, but just as I thought, Javascript is not allowed on eBay auctions.
This just in from Katy. [finally]
the java-script prohibition is interpreted to fall within the exclusions in the User Agreement under 6.1 (g)
"...Your Information (or any items listed therein): (g) shall not contain
any ..."other computer programming routines that are intended to damage,
detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any
system, data or personal information;.."
I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that at one time the wording included "java-script" but it has, perhaps, been made more general to include some of the new technologies coming down the pike?
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reddeer
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posted on October 11, 2000 07:05:02 AM new
Now that the PayPal threads are being shut down, thought I'd push this one back to the top.
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smw
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posted on October 11, 2000 07:27:13 AM new
I am glad that eBay doesn't allow Java to be used on auctions. It is bad enough that eBay itself uses Java itself to load ads and tracking gifs and uses Java to try to disable an ad blocking progam I have.
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reddeer
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posted on October 11, 2000 07:38:39 AM new
G'day SMW, ya know I was wondering if that was the reason they suddenly dropped the word "javascript" from their no-no list? I know damn well it used to be there at one time.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
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smw
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posted on October 11, 2000 08:03:57 AM new
Good morning to you too Reddeer,
Indeed it was on the list. There was a time when there was no Java used by eBay or allowed. Now using Java, (including scripts)seems to be a right eBay reserves for itself. You can't use smart search without Java enabled and scripting enabled.
The Java issue is a metaphor for the evolution of eBay. The only thing we can rely on with eBay is that there will be more of the same.
We just returned from our semi annual trip with no phones, computers, answering machines, cell phones, etc., and I must say am beginning to think that we should buy a plot of land, do some subsistance farming, home school the kids and give up the rat race. (Although I do have fixed views about indoor plumbing). After an hour or so online it doesn't seem like such a crazy notion.
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buyhigh
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posted on October 11, 2000 08:14:37 AM new
I have come across a number of auctions where a winddow popped up asking if I wished to continue using Java Script. Have not diabled mine yet because I have one "program" where it is needed but clicked on a category this Am and when I typed in a smart search title and than go, the request for continuing java script came up. In this particular area, no such occurance yesterday so I suspect e-Bay is broadening the use.
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