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 krs
 
posted on October 17, 2000 12:13:22 PM
If the final sale price is:
$25.00 or less
Your Final Value Fee equals:
5.0% of final sale price

$25.01 to $1,000.00
$1.25 plus 2.5% of final sale price over $25.00

$1,000.01 or more
$26.25 plus 1.25% of final sale price over $1,000.00
 
 loosecannon
 
posted on October 17, 2000 12:23:00 PM
So where did the extra .25% come from? Well I oughta...

I'll show them! I won't sell anything for over 1000.00 again!

But seriously, did they announce this? Or sneak it in...

 
 loosecannon
 
posted on October 17, 2000 12:26:51 PM
Wait a minute, now I'm not sure. What has changed?

 
 krs
 
posted on October 17, 2000 12:50:14 PM
Used to be that as value went up, their percentage went down, and the was no $26. + 1.25%. It was straight percentages all across the scale.

 
 coyote0
 
posted on October 17, 2000 12:53:18 PM
It hasn't changed...just reworded. 5% of $25 is $1.25.
 
 captainkirk
 
posted on October 17, 2000 01:04:00 PM
You mean it used to be like this?:

$.01 - $25 = 5% FVF
$25.01 - $1000 = 2.5% FVF
(or whatever the levels and percents were?)

If that was their fee structure at some point, then a $25 item paid a $1.25 FVF, and a $25.01 item only paid a $.63 FVF! In this kind of fee structure, every item sold in the range of $25-$50 would actually pay less than a $25 item would.

I'd be surprised if they actually calculated the fee like you are saying (if I'm reading your post correctly), since they would be foolish to charge less total FVF as per the above example.

However, perhaps they worded their fee schedule in a confusing manner when it was first published?

Anyone have some old records of FVFs to confirm or deny how the actual FVFs were calculated?

 
 Joanne
 
posted on October 17, 2000 01:20:15 PM
I've been on eBay for 3 1/2 years and they've NEVER changed the formulas for final value fees. It's always been the same.

krs - it's never been a flat 2.5% for over 25.01. If you sold an item for $35 you'd pay an FVF of $1.50:

5% of $25 = 1.25 PLUS
2.5% of $10 = .25



 
 krs
 
posted on October 17, 2000 01:52:48 PM
No, it used to read (nevermind the actual numbers) 0-25. a percentage;
25-100 that percentage up to 25 Plus a smaller percentage to sale price.
And again above 1000.

In each case you paid the percentage for the first amount plus a lower percentage for amounts above that. Switch to 1000. you paid all fees up to 1000 Plus a new lower percentage for amounts over 1000.

Whoever said they reworded it is right, and they did so in their favor.

They juggled the books.

They squeezed the lemon.

 
 captainkirk
 
posted on October 17, 2000 01:59:53 PM
Could you kindly give us an example of how they used to compute the fee on a $25.01 item and how they do it now?

The question is..did they change the actual calculation, or just how they described it? If all they did was change "5%" to "$1.25" for the second tier, say, then we really don't care, since both are the same value.

You haven't clearly described, in a "before and after" format, how they have changed something "in their favor".



 
 eventer
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:11:55 PM
Perhaps the wording has changed but the overall concept & amounts are the same. Here's the wording I saved from 1/22/99:

Final Value Fees are calculated as follows:

* 5% of the amount of the high bid (at the auction close) up to $25

* 2.5% of that part of the high bid from $25.01 up to $1,000

* 1.25% of the balance of current high bid greater than $1000.01

In my book, if an item sells for $1500, the fee would be:

$1.25 for the amount up to $25.00
24.38 for the amount from $25.01 to $1,000
$6.25 for the amount over $1,000

The only difference I see now is that ebay has rounded the $24.38 to $24.40 which is bringing in an extra $.02 for them as compared to the actual calculation.



 
 bhearsch
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:55:05 PM
eventer, I copied the wording for the FVF structure in Nov 1998 and it's the same as yours. I'm just wondering where eBay came up with the $26.25 fee in the $1000.01 category. My math says it should be $25.62 + 1.25% of final sale price over $1000. (5% of $25=$1.25 + 2.5% of $975=$24.375

Blanche

edited for bad math
[ edited by bhearsch on Oct 17, 2000 03:03 PM ]
 
 bhearsch
 
posted on October 17, 2000 03:15:52 PM
BTW, eBay did calculate my FVF's in the same way I did in my last post until July, 2000. I can't say if anything has changed since that date because I haven't listed any auctions recently. In the past eBay rounded off the cents to the lower number if it ended in an even 5 ($24.375 would be $24.37) but I noticed that my last sale in July was rounded off to the next higher number ($24.38)

It looks like they're really counting those pennies.

Blanche
 
 smw
 
posted on October 17, 2000 03:18:16 PM
Hi Blanche,

It looks like a typo to me. The numbers look to be transposed. The right numbers are there but in the wrong order. Susan

26.25
25.62
[ edited by smw on Oct 17, 2000 03:20 PM ]
 
 krs
 
posted on October 17, 2000 05:24:46 PM
10,000,0000 pennies is how much?

Squeezed the lemon, or the sucker.

 
 captainkirk
 
posted on October 17, 2000 07:02:09 PM
Ho Hum. Another non-event.

If rounding up instead of down is the best we can do for an example of shocking ebay behavior, best to start turning over other stones.

 
 bhearsch
 
posted on October 17, 2000 07:18:00 PM
smw, I think you're right.

Blanche
 
 
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