junquemama
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posted on November 10, 2000 11:20:10 AM
All the jewelry catagorys have been jammed
up.You cant find anything.ebay may have cut their throats for the last time with the jewelry people.From what Ive seen,They cannot afford to stick around to argue with ebay to fix the problems that ebay has on their own
created.The sales were bad before,Now ebay
has screwed the people to the wall,The same
People who have put a lot of butter on ebays
bread.Jewelry is the biggest catagory and the most sales.There is no intelligence at ebay.
This pretty much says it all.I have also noticed yahoos jewelry auctions growing.Still
not the bidders,But at least at Yahoo they arent going to the poor farm trying to sell.
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reddeer
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posted on November 10, 2000 12:01:42 PM
Hello Junkmom, I just went here, and color me stupid, but what's the problem?
http://pages.ebay.com/catindex/jewelry.html
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junquemama
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posted on November 10, 2000 01:21:00 PM
Hi Reddear,ebay jammed up 90,000 auctions in one catagory.One of the jewelry pages show
Costume in three catagorys,The gold has been lumped with silver fine and a 3 day cruise.
Signed has been lumped with gold ,lots, and all 3 have new and old mixed together.Its a big mess.And now people are complaining they cant find anything and cant bid when they go in to bid.Some of the jewelry people are starting to complain in the dnf.Always a screwup with the big ideas.
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reddeer
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posted on November 10, 2000 02:04:34 PM
OK, I saw someone complaining on the DNF, I see what the prob is now. Typical eBay thinking ....... duh.
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junquemama
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posted on November 10, 2000 02:37:55 PM
Here is another jewelry link door.When you click on all jewelry catagorys You get the 404 not found error.Granted the catagorys have been moved around,You should be able to get where you want to look at any of the doors.Be sure and click on the one with
82,000 listings.Thats a real fun one.
http://jewelry.ebay.com/
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reddeer
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posted on November 10, 2000 02:49:35 PM
366 pages long! No wonder people are using the yellow highliner. Good God!
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reddogsma
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posted on November 11, 2000 04:00:37 AM
Hi All !
I am bumping this thread back to the top where it belongs. I wrote to Ebay with my suggestions (see below) before the changes were made, apparently all for naught. Since the change, I have written to [email protected] numerous times and all I get is a canned response to the effect that it may be a couple of weeks before they read the mail and then they may not respond. I proposed the following addition to the Jewelry category yesterday, take a look and tell me what you think. There are problems with all the categories but I am addressing only the category that is nearest and dearest to my heart....Artisan/Handcrafted Jewelry. I think that sellers who utilized the other jewelry categories are better able to convey their wishes to Ebay.
(NEW CATEGORY) HANDCRAFTED/ARTISAN
(Subcategories)
General* Beaded/Gemstone*
Native American*
Southwestern *
Ethnographic*
Victorian/Edwardian*
Gothic/Club Style *
Lampwork *
Wire/ Metalsmith*
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macandjan
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posted on November 11, 2000 04:35:17 AM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 03:16 PM ]
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cdnbooks
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posted on November 11, 2000 04:35:29 AM
Gee, could eBay be trying to sell the yellow highlighting that almost no one has wanted to use???????
Bill
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MissMadi
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posted on November 11, 2000 12:31:13 PM
Sorry to differ, but I like the new set-up. At least for the "fine jewelry".
The problem right now is that everything is in "general". Once sellers get things listed where they should be, it will be a big help to buyers.
I think the old way was a mess. You had to sort through a million listings to find what you were looking for.
Now if you want a bracelet, search bracelets. Earrings, search earrings. etc. Makes sense to me.
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barkrock
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posted on November 11, 2000 02:40:12 PM
I think the new categories make more sense; but the way items were shuffled from old categories to new ones is a complete screw up. I had to spend quite a lot of time today going in and reassigning new categories to my on-going auctions. It would have been a lot neater had eBay simply let both sets of categories run side-by-side for a week - allowing no postings to old categories, of course - and let things take a more natural course.
Is there *anyone* here who would like eBay to just shuffle your goods into a different category for you? I doubt it!
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labelleepoque1
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posted on November 11, 2000 09:57:46 PM
The main part of the jewelry problem for me is the elimination of "Artist Jewelry" categories. Jewelry artists that make handmade items should not have to be lumped into "Costume Jewelry" where most items were dumped. There is a specialized niche market for people that exclusively buy handmade jewelry and follow certain artists.
For jewelry artists trying to educate the buyer, this is a step backwards!
Otherwise, I don't mind the bracelet, necklace category thing.
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junquemama
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posted on November 12, 2000 12:27:20 PM
I have been watching the jewelry auction
numbers,From the link I posted up there.Steady falling off.Maybe those people are posting their auctions in automotive.
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reddogsma
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posted on November 13, 2000 11:10:35 AM
When will Ebay admit they made a mistake here ? I sent my customers a letter about this and so far all agree. We need an artist jewelry category !!!
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isworeiwouldneverdothis
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posted on November 13, 2000 11:22:51 AM
What labelleepoque1 said. Boy have they screwed me royally. And right in the middle of Crhistmas shopping season, too.
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soldbyj
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posted on November 13, 2000 06:51:39 PM
have I missed the "turquoise" category? Or have they eliminated it ????
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junquemama
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posted on November 13, 2000 07:12:35 PM
soldbyj,No such listing anymore.In fact you now have the fun of guessing where everything is at.Not only do you jewelry people have to worry about where to list your items,You have to worry if the buyers
Are going to get fed up trying to find you.
Or to even buy.There is also a big ego behind this,"It will work because I said so."
Let them eat cake.
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junquemama
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posted on November 13, 2000 07:20:35 PM
Also for those of you that are happy with the catagorys,Its a matter of time before
People will list an item no matter what the breakup of items.They will list a bull elephant in fine rings if it has the least of the listings.People want their items seen,
I dont blame them.
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starrr222
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posted on November 13, 2000 09:01:58 PM
Boy do I agree!! First I can't list most of my auctions as I keep getting errors for no catagory selected/ AW or eBay problem? I go back and retry and retry, no luck. As for the Artist Jewerly category being eliminated. Are they tying to kill us? I have steadily been educating my customers for years about handcrafted jewelry. I have a good following of customers on eBay that would buy on a regular basis/ I was sick to see 600+ pages of crap jewelry all lumped into costume. I do not make COSTUME jewelry, an I assume you all do not either! I don't want to sell my items next to knock of flea market stuff! Don't they realize handcrafted means alot of work and not alot of profit? I'd like to see those idiots wire work a 18" chain!! LOL We need to band together and take over a catagory if they won't give us one!!!! thanks for listening to my venting!!
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Borillar
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posted on November 13, 2000 11:50:55 PM
Yah, it would be nice if their categories would seperate the wheat from the chaff. We sell medium to medium-high grade jewelry and I'd rather not be placed in categories where bottom of the barrel junk is sold, nor do we wish to be placed into the gold/platinum/diamonds/precious stones categories either.
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Fearlessfosdick
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posted on November 14, 2000 02:11:06 AM
As long as sellers post their wares, Ebay will continue to do as they please. Sellers upload during high "issue" times, during times of turmoil such as the current hoopla over the jewelry categories. Sellers line up to hand their money over to Ebay and even reward Ebay by using Billpoint.
I don't blame Ebay. They are laughing all the way to several banks.
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argh
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posted on November 14, 2000 05:01:30 AM
I really dislike breaking jewelry up by item. I usually look for jewelry made by certain manufacturers or by material.
They dorked the "vintage" categories. They picked a few eras of jewelry (Art Deco, Victorian, etc.) and left out some major ones...so I guess they all just get glomped into the general vintage category, along with the stuff that is really repro. It'll be too big to browse, so the good stuff will get lost in there.
I'm bothered by this attitude I keep hearing about Costume jewelry. It's not all crap...as a jewelry artisan myself, I know how much COSTUME designs by Miriam Haskell, Florenza, Vendome, Hagler and others have influenced what I make. Yes, there's some awfully crappy costume jewelry....there must be some reasonable way to seperate the good stuff.
Ok, that said, I do agree that artist-made or handcrafted jewelry needs it's own categories. First eBay put in way too many categories, then they take away too many...ugh. The worst part is the timing...they should not be testing this out during the holidays. That was really a stupid move on their part and sellers will lose serious money because of it.
Argh
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