posted on November 29, 2000 09:05:53 AM new
Does Ebay care if I contact non winning bidders to try to sell them duplicate items of the one listed? They must know this will happen if they give out bidders email addresses.
posted on November 29, 2000 10:14:19 AM new
Why do the non-winning bidders have to have been on my auctions? Why not just on similar merchandise? (mind you, I've never taken this approach, but I have had sellers contact me in this manner.)
posted on November 29, 2000 10:17:16 AM new
Because then, it would be SPAM, and sellers can be reported to Ebay fo spamming you....
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posted on November 29, 2000 01:07:35 PM new
I have personally got two people NARU'd from Ebay for spamming me because I bid on someones auctions. If I wanted what you have, I would bid on it.
posted on November 29, 2000 05:41:09 PM new
Besides being spam, this would also be considered fee avoidance. All in all, if you decide to carry on with this idea, you'd best hope that no one turns you in to Safe Harbor, as you'll probably be suspended.
always pickersangel everywhere
posted on November 29, 2000 05:44:56 PM new
thanks for the information. I hadn't even thought of contacting bidders on other people's auctions. I wouldn't do that.
It does seem that E-bay would be irked to provide leads for sales without receiving fees or commisions if I make additional sales of an item without relisting.
posted on November 29, 2000 05:59:18 PM new
contect them but don't mention the word Egay, or anything related to them, so it would a pure spam If they were bidding in your auctions it means they are interested so they would not consider your letter as spam. Also send it from another email address not register with Egay.
posted on November 29, 2000 06:08:41 PM new
hey don't ask me. I just got booted (with no notice, no warning!) from bidbay just because I asked a question about this link.
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Securities/actions/bidbay.html
I guess they don't want their blessed members to know they were issued a C & D Order and therefore their stock can never go public. I have the thread, I got it before they zapped it. Email me at [email protected] if you want it. I was told to "let it go!". Sounds like a cover up.
What a joke that site is. I will take ebay ANYDAY!!!!!!
posted on November 29, 2000 06:22:24 PM new
If you happen to email a particularly zealous ant-spammer, it's quite like that your ISP will suspend your account.
posted on November 30, 2000 05:10:07 AM new
I think Ebay no longer permits anyone other than the seller to view the email addresses of bidders whilst the auction is still running. Not sure what happens after the auction ends though. Contacting the bidders on someone else's auction IS Spam, not doubt about it.
However, I have contacted losing bidders on my OWN auctions before to let them know that I have listed another similar item to the one they bid on in case they are interested. There is no way this could be construed as fee avoidance because I am not endeavouring to offer the item privately.
I always state in the email that it is a one time email and that they have no obligation to look at the auction if they are no longer interested and I hope that they find the item they are looking for. I also state that I will never again email them for any reason unless they do decide to bid on the auction.
This is not something I do regularly but I have never had any complaints. Ebay would probably take a dim view of the whole situation but I try to put myself in the buyers position and imagine how I would feel if I was desperately looking for a widget and kept getting outbid.
posted on November 30, 2000 10:07:39 AM new
NO ISP will suspend you for it! The only reason why ISP suspends their members is, if you use their mail servers to send more than 10k emails, they will realize that you are in the bulk email business so you are a treat for systems, otherwise if you send 10 emails and 9 people complaint, your ISP will contact you letting you know to please not to send emails if it's not requested, but that remotely will happen, I would say 1 in 1thousan. Only AOL is the one who really keeps a record of spamers, and they also allow you to spam 3 times (They send you 3 warnings before they suspend you) A month ago I opened an extra account with AOL just to send a couple hundred of emails (also related to egay), which I did, and never got any complaint, after I sent that couple hundred, I closed that account 25 days later without any incident or warning, people no more conplaint to the ISPs. The only ones who can act so quick against you is egay, for this reason when you contact your bidder try no to mention the word egay, but say: I saw you were bidding, bidder, auction, etc. But believe me your ISP will never suspend you unless you send thousands of emails at once. They will suspend you because you are treating their system, NOT because people complaint, they really don't care much about complaints, they will not loose $20 dollars a month because of the complainer, $20 bucks here, $20 bucks there, forget it, they spend thousands of dollars in advertising, they will think twice before they send you a warning letter, there's too much competition for them, too many free Internet companies The Spam era is gone, the spamer finally got a real job, and people and ISP's are no more sensitive about spam or complaint related to spam.
