posted on December 6, 2000 09:01:57 AM new
Everybody - send me your bank account info, your paypal ID and password, your credit card info. Why not? It's FREE! Has everybody gone crazy? With all the horror stories about Internet fraud, why do so many people jump on the bandwagon of every site that has the word FREE on it? Did you forget Paymentalt, a FREE payment service that signed up about 14,000 folks who are now finding fraudulent charges on their credit cards?
Paypal has already hurt hundreds if not thousands of folks, whether directly by freezing accounts or indirectly by allowing hundreds of accounts to be opened with stolen credit cards. Exchangepath looks to be even worse. Now along called auxpal, asking for your PP ID and password and folks are doing it. Get ready for a bunch of sad posts about hacked PP accounts.
posted on December 6, 2000 10:03:49 AM new
I have to agree with you on this completely. If they weren't asking for your PayPal password it wouldn't be quite as suspicious..
> PayPal has access to your bank account through verification
> auxpal want access to your PayPal account giving them access to your bank account and credit card.
posted on December 6, 2000 10:08:39 AM new
Excellent post yisgood. If I were in charge of the AW Forums, I would post a large notice right now that states: "Whinging About PayPal and/or It's Partners Shall Not Be Permitted On This Site".
Otherwise, in a week or two when people come to their senses, we're going to get innundated with these
posted on December 6, 2000 10:18:44 AM new
In the case of the AuXpal site, I don't think people are interested so much because it's "free," but because it's an attractive alternative to eBay.
posted on December 6, 2000 10:46:35 AM new
why would it be an attractive alternative to ebay?
It's free...great for sellers.
But unless they get some bidders in, it's as much a dry wasteland as the others out there.
I never heard of it outside of these boards...I'm pretty dinky as a seller, maybe I didn't make the spam mailing list. As a bidder, I like the folks I've met at Ebay.
Looking at auxpal.com I saw a lot of the stuff I don't buy. And funny, the emails all were AOL, hotmail and medi-file...and a bigfoot.com one. And the bid prices were all the same numbers, lots of round numbers.
Ebay may be down, but it's the ONLY place I can find quite a few goodies that I buy on a regular basis. And some sellers would see me at the wailing wall if they pull up stakes!
Cost o' doin' business.
I know ebay is a monolith. I just saw another shill auction...id registered the same day as the auction started...and got the vague answer from Safeharbor.
But, when I find the "right" people, I am so the repeat customer, that my feedback stalls out!
Forgive the ramble.
Free is never free.
posted on December 6, 2000 10:52:29 AM new
Hi Capriole,
What I meant by "an attractive alternative" was mainly the instant pay feature. Bidders don't have to wait around for the end of auction notices from sellers, sellers don't have to wait for payment and wonder whether someone will be a deadbeat or not, it's taken care of and the only waiting is for the shipment of the package. It just seems more efficient, and that's what makes it stand out in my mind against all the other eBay-wannabe sites.
Maybe you saw my listing there... I have an AOL email address and I listed the item with a round figure!
[ edited by RainyBear on Dec 6, 2000 10:53 AM ]
posted on December 6, 2000 11:05:59 AM newWhat I meant by "an attractive alternative" was mainly the instant pay feature.
Think about it for a second. This would be attractive to sellers but what about the buyers? You don't initiate the transaction, AuXpal does. What if for some reason you don't have enough money in your PayPal account? Will they charge your credit card or make an un-authorized debit of your bank account? You, as a buyer are giving total control to AuXPal..
Why would NoBidding start something like this without authorization from PayPal?
posted on December 6, 2000 11:08:26 AM newoutoftheblue - you're right, I'm thinking more from the seller's perspective. I had signed up thinking it was affiliated with PayPal (I'm guilty of not reading the fine print, I know), but I changed my PayPal password and deleted my account information as soon as I figured out it wasn't part of PayPal. I'd still be happy to sell there but would never buy.
posted on December 6, 2000 11:19:02 AM newI'd still be happy to sell there but would never buy.
No offense, but why do you think anyone else would buy there either if you yourself would not?
posted on December 6, 2000 11:24:54 AM new
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the site will be successful or that people will buy there, but you never know. I'm certainly not planning to go hog wild listing there.
