cape123
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posted on January 16, 2001 11:56:13 AM
I have a current auction that has an unusually high bid. I have sold three identical items in past week that sold for $150 less than what this guy bid. This bidder has 0 feedback and shades. There is also 5 days left in the auction
So my question is, should I ride it out and see if the bidder pays ( because I KNOW noone will outbid) or just cancel his bid on base of suspicion.
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Zilvy
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posted on January 16, 2001 01:43:18 PM
looks like you have a lot of fairly new buyers bidding, the high bidder has only bid $5.00 more than the next high bidder. I don't see that you have a problem or a real reason to take any action.
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bkmunroe
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:04:44 PM
Cancel the 2 highest bids. It looks like a classic case of bid shielding.
Your 2 high bidders joined yesterday, they both bid high just a few seconds apart, and the email addresses are both from cjb.net.
You can always request their info. I bet they're both the same or, obviously, phony.
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cape123
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:16:52 PM
yes, but what should I put as reason for cancellation. "Unusually high bid price?  "
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:20:03 PM
Suspiscious bidding activity.
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Julesy
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:22:56 PM
Make sure you email them (and CC Safeharbor) and request that they not bid on your auctions again.
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cape123
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:32:46 PM
Uh...
The weirdest thing just happened. I only cancelled the top bidder and then the price dropped $300.00. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT??!!
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Julesy
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:38:45 PM
Your high bidder...the one that is there now, has a *ridiculously* high proxy bid...that is why it dropped so far.
Do you understand how you were/are being bid shielded?
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:39:05 PM
B bids $53, bid is at $53
M bids $389, bid is at $54
H bids $390, bid is at $390
Remove bidder H, bid reverts to $54
I think.
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kerryann
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:46:40 PM
You should also cancel the bid of the other person at cjb.net. Send e-mail to both users and cc it to safeharbor telling them not to bid on your auctions again.
Not Kerryann on eBay
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cape123
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posted on January 16, 2001 02:59:45 PM
OK,
did it. cancelled the two highest bidders. Thanks for the explanation potato.
Can someone please explain to me why someone would do this??
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cix
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posted on January 16, 2001 03:35:41 PM
ALL WRONG !!!!!!!
You should have ended the auction while it had the ridiculous high bid and you could have nailed them then.
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Julesy
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posted on January 16, 2001 03:38:49 PM
LOL! Like they would pay or own up to what they did.
And in the meantime, the seller is stuck with a steep FVF and/or annoyed with the trouble of getting it refunded.
Brilliant.
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bkmunroe
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posted on January 16, 2001 06:42:13 PM
Can someone please explain to me why someone would do this??
Your second-place bidder was the mastermind behind the bidshielding. Although, I hesitate to call him a 'mastermind'. About the only way that he could have made it more obvious would have been to name his fake accounts fakebidder1 and fakebidder2. Placing his bid and 2 phony bids all within less than 1 minute was stupid.
The mastermind bid $53, fakebidder1 bid $390 and fakebidder2 bid $330. Fakebidder1 becomes the high bidder at $335, 1 increment over fakebidder2. Anyone looking for a CDRW will pass on yours because the high bid is too high.
Just before your auction ends, the mastermind retracts both fake bids making him the high bidder 1 increment over the person behind him. So, he ends up winning your CDRW for about $50.
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cape123
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posted on January 16, 2001 09:38:10 PM
I'll be da@*ed.
Thats pretty smart. I guess I'll have to keep my eye out for things like that in the future. Thanks for the explanation.
I just wanted to thank everyone at this forum. I have learned so much and really appreciate everyones help.
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