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 digitalmaster
 
posted on February 8, 2001 11:07:14 PM
I just want to see how many sellers out there had any problems with selling the PS2? I woke up at 7AM and stood out in front of my local Target for 2 and a half months trying to get my hands on a PS2 for myself. I got lucky one morning and bought 2 of them. I sold one on ebay in december and it sold for around $600. I only started it at a penny which was obviously reasonable. Anyway, the bidder never paid for it and I lost about $8 with all the listing fees.

Anyway, I sold it again and a bidder won the item for $375 and is now telling me "Its only worth $300 so that is all I will pay you. If you dont sell it to me for that, I will leave you negetive feedback." Of course I contacted eBay, but they are not willing to help, even though I have been a PowerSeller for almost a year now! I have emailed them again hoping they will at least block this guy from leaving me feedback but I don't know what they will actually do.

Anyway, have any of you had problems with bidders not paying for the PS2, or any big/high selling items? It's not even worth me selling it at this point. Even if I sell it I would have paid to sell it. $375 is a fair price if you ask me, especially since it wont be out for another month in the stores!

 
 taz8057
 
posted on February 8, 2001 11:15:34 PM
It seems as if everyone that bought a PS2 had intentions of selling it.

Like all things, when the demand slows down, so does the price. I see that they are starting to come to the price that my wallet can handle. I think I will wait until I can get one for $200.00. Will you sell me yours for $200.00.

I have seen so many bidders that bid on PS2 that have negative feedback. I wonder if they are kids just having fun! BTW, you also have to consider the age of the people wanting the PS2!

-Trey



 
 Luvsromance
 
posted on February 9, 2001 06:19:07 AM
You'll get no sympathy from me, you're why my kid didn't get one for Christmas. Those sellers who bought only for resale get what they deserve.

 
 LindaAW
 
posted on February 9, 2001 06:44:45 AM
Luvsromance,

The Community Guidelines require conduct to be guided at all times by basic etiquette. Please remember to address the the subject, not the individual.

Thank you for your cooperation,
Linda
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 RB
 
posted on February 9, 2001 06:48:48 AM
Could the number of deadbeats bidding on this item be related to the number of scam sellers who were listing and selling empty PS-2 boxes?

 
 smoothauction
 
posted on February 9, 2001 07:05:02 AM
digitalmaster:

It's probably too late now, but did you try selling the PS2 to the next lowest bidder at $600?
 
 Brooklynguy-07
 
posted on February 9, 2001 07:55:25 AM
Luvsromance - CORRECTION - YOU are the reason your kid didn't get a PS2 for Christmas!!

 
 heike55
 
posted on February 9, 2001 07:59:29 AM
Get a FVF refund and offer it to the next highest bidders. Go down the list until you find one that is willing to honor their bid.
I had the same thing happen to me with Titans/Cowboys football tickets. The high bidder backed out, (New) with the excuse "Sorry, my husband don't want to sit in this section!" The next 2 already had bids out on other tickets, but the #4 bidder got a real good deal. I of course, got a lot less than I was hoping for, but still a lot more than I payed for. We were both satisfied with the deal. (At least until the end of the game. The buyer was a Cowboys fan. GO TITANS!!! )

heikejohn everywhere else!
 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on February 9, 2001 08:07:21 AM
digitalmaster-

I bought one when they first came out in October. I listed it on eBay and had nothing but problems- my bidder list (based on their bidding pattern and feedback) looked like an "America's Most Wanted" show.

I finally had to end the auction, and I listed it with Amazon. Sold it right away, with no hassles whatsoever, for $100 more than they were typically going for on eBay at the time.

Those sellers who bought only for resale get what they deserve.

Thanks! I bought one for $300 and sold it for $700. Aside from the eBay hassle, not a bad return for a half hour wait in line. I'll do it again if I get a chance.
 
 RB
 
posted on February 9, 2001 08:18:00 AM
A whole bunch of eBayers did that with the infamous Apex "do everything" DVD player. Bought them a Circuit City for $100.00 then sold them on eBay for $500.00. That is, until the MPAA forced eBay to end these auctions (the first version of the player could defeat Macro and allow copies to be made to tape).

Interesting that eBay was prepared to do nothing about this, in spite of hundereds of complaints made to SafeHarbour, until the MPAA stepped in and read them the riot act. It must have hurt them to end all of the money-making-for-Meg auctions.

Also interesting to note that when eBay ended these auctions, the sellers went underground where their "market" was a little smarter. They couldn't give away this piece of junk!

If anyone is interested in selling me their PS-2 for $50.00, let me know ... that's what this thing will be worth in a few months when the next version hits the streets.

 
 Crystalline_Sliver
 
posted on February 9, 2001 08:39:41 AM
Actually, there a number of factors to the PS2 saga.

First off, the manufacturer couldn't get the needed supplies in time.

Also, the Japanese Goverment imposed bans on the PS2 to some unfriendly countries because several components "reportedly" could be used to make a Missle. (This was also backed-up by a US Customs Report that Saddam Hussein might've bought half of the PS2 supply during Christmas. Don't ask me how I know this or what the implications maybe.)

And, guess how much hype was made as PS2 went on sale in Japan two years back.

Oh yeah, what about several highly publiziced(sp?) scams with the PS2??

And, a lack of selection of games is hampering it abit also (but, you can still use your old PSX Games on it).

Just like a fad, it had to die sometime.

:\\\"Crystalline Sliver cannot be the target of spells or abilities.
 
 bkmunroe
 
posted on February 9, 2001 11:32:13 AM
Anyone who is looking to sell a PS2 for profit had better do it soon. Not only do you have to worry about Sony eventually getting quantities of the PS2 into retail stores, but you also have to worry about the X-box.

A lot of those people who had hoped to get a PS2 for Xmas, but couldn't, may just wait until the X-Box is released this fall.

 
 digitalmaster
 
posted on February 11, 2001 01:39:29 PM
A seller is not a bad person for trying to sell the PS2! There is nothing wrong with that! I had to sit out for 2 months to get one. I did not sell it for unreasonable prices. I don' determin what the average bid is. If you went to a store and they just so happened to have one and you knew they sold for $600 you would get one too!

I hate when people blame sellers for wanting to sell. I never ripped anyone or did anything wrong! All I did was put it online for sale. its not my fault if Sony had short stock in them. If your kid did not get one that is not my fault you did not sit in front of a line every day trying to get one! I bought one for me and I tried selling the other one. I did nothing wrong doing that! How can you blame a seller for trying to sell something!

This same thing happened with a rare CD I use to sell. I found out that this CD only printed in California (only 1000 were printed) and it sold for $100. I bought them at a local store when they were availible for $11.99 each. I posted them at 1 cent and got $100 everytime I sold it. Then, I had bidders emailing me all these rude comments and accusing me of "ripping everyone off selling CD's for $100 that only cost $11!" The problem is, I am not the one who put the demand there! I am not the one who bid $100 on a stupid CD! Its not my fault, I only sold it and to top it off, I only sold it for $0.01. Its not my fault if a bidder bid $100 on it!

 
 taz8057
 
posted on February 11, 2001 01:48:12 PM
digitalmaster,

wow, what cd was it that you were selling?

-Trey

 
 wbbell
 
posted on February 11, 2001 09:37:45 PM
I read an interesting article before Christmas which was talking about how the usual supply chain of toys was being disrupted by online auctions. That is, a store like Target would buy a quantity of something which would ordinarily be completely adequate -- except all these folks would immediately buy them all up to resell on auctions. The lack of these toys then creates a demand which ordinarily wouldn't have existed, causing stores to reorder more, and then auction resellers buy more, and on we go.

The end result, is NO ONE get a VW barbie at retail and EVERYONE must pay big $$$ to get it from online sellers, as that's the only place where it's available. ANd then after Christmas, the bottom falls out as sellers try to dump what they couldn't resell - or even worse, they just dump it back into the returns line at Target and break even.

I expect that next christmas we will see stores imposing limits on many (if not all) types of toys in an attempt to curb this phenomenon.

 
 digitalmaster
 
posted on February 11, 2001 11:04:12 PM
To answer one question, its a CD by Beck called "Golden Feelings" if you find a copy, sell it!

To address the other guy. The shortage of Playstation 2's was announced by Sony 2-3 months before there was a Shortage. It was due to a limited production. It has nothing to do with greedy sellers. Besides, I only bought it for myself. I said "Can I have 2" and they gave me to. So I sold one! That is not so bad to do!

 
 MichelleG
 
posted on February 12, 2001 12:52:11 AM
taz8057

I have deleted your post because by posting the exact auction title and description, you have provided enough information to identify the Seller. The CGs require certain steps be followed before any identifying information can be posted within the Message Center.

Complete details of those requirements can be found in the Community Guidelines.

Thanks for your cooperation.


MichelleG
Moderator

 
 MichelleG
 
posted on February 12, 2001 01:00:19 AM
Trey,

Even with the limited information you just posted, a quick search will still only bring up one Seller - it's a no win situation in this instance .

If you want to post the info, you have to go through the motions and invite the Seller, CC it to the Moderators, wait the 24hrs etc. If you want to do that, then perhaps I'd suggest starting a fresh thread, otherwise we're going to have to lock this one.

Michelle
 
 taz8057
 
posted on February 12, 2001 01:02:05 AM
Sorry Michelle



 
 wbbell
 
posted on February 12, 2001 04:56:48 AM
digitalmaster: re: playstation supply

Yes, I know the playstation was widely announced to be in short supply. I personally feel that anyone who wanted one of those could have gotten one at normal price if they had tried hard enough. It may have required waiting in line at walmart at 3am...

This article was talking more about "normal" toys which the public had seized upon for some reason, thus artifically making them "hot". The Leap Pad immediately comes to mind, the Diva Starz dolls, the VW Barbie, and a few others.

It's an interesting issue, especially now that I have young children who may want some of these things. Having been on both sides (a seller and a buyer of hot toys), I'm unsure where to land.

I had been wanting to get a Leap Pad for my 4yo for Christmas and happened upon a few at Target [at regular price of $32] about a week after Thanksgiving. I actually did consider buying a few more leap pads to resell but decided against it. When I got home there were over 100 listings on eBay ranging from $50-$100, and only a few had bids. I would never have paid that much for it, and apparently neither would anyone else.
[ edited by wbbell on Feb 12, 2001 05:14 AM ]
 
 
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