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posted on March 1, 2001 03:12:27 PM new
I can't find this Pan American horn anywhere.It looks to be an old silver French horn but all of the extra gatgets have me in a quandry.I thought French horns had different keys. Any help with the identity of this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:26:56 PM new
Hmmm.. the body mostly resembles a french horn (one of the many instruments I play!) but it has trumpet-like valves. French Horn valves are flat and they push inward, not downward. I suppose it's possible it is an older french horn - but I've never seen one quite like that before. And I've never seen a french horn with that loop right past the mouthpiece. I say it is a very old-style french horn.
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loosecannon
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:30:13 PM new
What you have is called a Mellophone, and it's sometimes referred to as a Marching French Horn ( I don't know how correct that terminology is but it's definitely a Mellophone). It's a Marching Band instrument.
And you're correct. French horns have rotary valves, mellophones have piston valves, like a trumpet has.
Pan American is an old student line horn. It does look nice though. Probably from the 30's or 40's judging by the case.
Need a mouthpiece? I have a new-old stock mouthpiece for one.
You could get perhaps $200.00, maybe a little more if the valves are in good condition and it's relatively dent free, etc. Pan American is good, but not a top name.
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:35:43 PM new
I do not think it is a mellaphone. I played mellaphone in marching band in high school and it basically looks like a very large trumpet. Same style keys as this thing but a mellaphone is not all curly and round like this. It looks like a very large trumpet.
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loosecannon
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:40:35 PM new
If you play many instruments then you should know it's a mellophone.
Don't take my word for it though. I just sell instruments for a living. Look it up for yourself.
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joice
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:40:54 PM new
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:44:36 PM new
loosecannon: I was simply giving my opinion, there is no reason to get nasty with me. And yes, I DO play many instruments. And for your information, I was not around to play instruments in 1930 and I have never "studied" antique instruments. I only know of all the ones I have played.
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gc2
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posted on March 1, 2001 03:52:10 PM new
Just practicing my ubb (is that right?) before I go to conquer html and ftp.
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loosecannon
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posted on March 1, 2001 04:01:41 PM new
excecutivegirl
I owe you an apology which I hope you'll accept.
It is a mellophone. But, it appears that you were party correct. I have found out that mellophones do come in different shapes and some look like large trumpets. They all sound like a mellophone, just made in different shapes for different purposes. Most look just like this one.
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debbielennon
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posted on March 1, 2001 04:24:09 PM new
I've played both types of mellophones & they both suck--or should I say blow-----
Hey loosecannon, what should a decent used double French Horn go for? They always seem to be on the high side at eBay.
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loosecannon
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posted on March 1, 2001 04:28:31 PM new
Depends on the brand and condition. A pro line model would go quite high if in excellent or better.
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debbielennon
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posted on March 1, 2001 04:35:55 PM new
I'd love a Holton, but I'd settle for a Conn.
Whenever I browse, it seems like even the horns that look like they got run over by a truck end up higher than what I would pay.
(Note to self...look for used horns locally.)
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loosecannon
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posted on March 1, 2001 04:40:02 PM new
Well, yes. You're not going to get a Conn or Holton double for too cheap unless someone doesn't know what they have.
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debbielennon
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posted on March 1, 2001 05:07:22 PM new
Don't I know it!
Seriously, what is a good price range for a decent used Holton or Conn double?
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loosecannon
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posted on March 1, 2001 05:13:24 PM new
Maybe you could get lucky enough to find one for 6 to 8 hundred.
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