chepistar
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posted on March 21, 2001 10:51:35 AM
Okay, sellers, who out there cancels newbie bids?
Tell me what you think:
A few weeks ago, I decided to start a second ID. I had been listing about 50 auctions a week, about 10 in one particular category. Since my auctions are primarily two distinct categories with separate followings, I decided to create a second ID to separate the auctions (to make it so my repeat bidders would not have to sort through all of my listings).
Several of my auctions ended today on my "new" ID. While I was sending out my EOA's, I remembered that an auction I was watching was in its final hours. I placed a bid and finished what I was doing.
hmmm...when I went back to check the auction and raise my bid (if necessary) it wasn't in my "items I'm bidding on" section. The Seller cancelled my bid because she thought I was a newbie!!!
You see, I inadvertantly placed the bid under the wrong handle. So much for my 1200 transactions on eBay, I guess I wasn't good enough for a seller who has sold less in their entire eBay career than I sell in a month! their loss!
So, I'm curious, do you not accept bids from -0- fb bidders? Even if their ID no longer has shades? what is your logic behind this? "Welcome to the neighborhood ~ I'll say hi after my peers give their approval?
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sadie999
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posted on March 21, 2001 10:56:11 AM
Of course I accept zerofeedbackers as bidders. I don't see a whole bunch more probs with them than I do with any other bidders.
I don't, however bid on items being sold by zerofeedback sellers.
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MrJim
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posted on March 21, 2001 10:59:42 AM
I, for one, do not have time to devote to deciding who is good enough to bid on my auctions. For the record, out of about 100 deadbeats in the last year only one had zero feedback. The rest all had 20 to 600. So much for the newbie=deadbeat theory. I have placed the first positive feedback for over 100 newbies and find most very eager to pay.
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NearTheSea
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:06:11 AM
Never cancelled a bid on a new bidder. Most seem eager to win and pay. I HAVE cancelled on newbies with negatives....
[email protected]
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justbijou
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:21:32 AM
I won't cancel bids on a newbie with 0 Feedback. I have only had one sale go sour with a newbie and when I checked their bidding history afterwards I saw that they had just signed on that week and had already bid on 100s of items. I just waited the minimum of time before filing NPB since I never heard from them when the auction closed.
I just started using a second ID as a buyers ID and I am now up to 10. I haven't had anybody question my lower feedback in the 19 transactions I have won so far. Could it be because I started the ID months ago so the shades were gone when I actually started bidding on items?
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jrodgers
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:24:07 AM
Talk about the seller cancelling bids, see my thread on Yahoo "Bid cancelled by seller for no reason." I doubt she could have gotten away with this on eBay.
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=6&thread=18720
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mballai
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:27:07 AM
I can see if someone had a high ticket item that they might be hesitant to deal with a newbie; but other than that they are real dumb.
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Valleygirl
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:37:16 AM
Didn't we all have -0- after our names once?
Not my name on ebay.
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eventer
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:37:16 AM
mballai,
I would agree with you but I suspect if I took the time to go back over AW threads for the last 6 months, I'd find a whole slew of them in there saying,
"A newbie w/sunglasses just bid on my auction..should I cancel?"
And there are more than a few posters on this board who DO cancel newbie bids. Some because they have higher ticket items & others because they've had a high degree of deadbeats among newbies.
Personally I don't cancel them because they've been pretty good as a whole, but there are those who don't want them in their auctions.
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chepistar
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:44:09 AM
justbijou:
 My shades are gone ~ I just started listing under that ID ~ my first auctions closed less that a week ago.
"the bid" was around $11, the item closed under $30. Not a high ticket item ~ just a sweatshirt! Guess I didn't need another one living in Florida, anyway. Maybe someone up there is trying to get me to curb my shop-a-holic tendencies! 
[ edited by chepistar on Mar 21, 2001 11:51 AM ]
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nowwhat
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:45:51 AM
To date I have never cancelled anyone's bid. I definitely don't think that having 0 feedback is a reason to cancel. If everyone cancelled 0 feedback bids who would be left on eBay to buy. Just plain silly!
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:46:27 AM
I have had more trouble with "know-it-all" high feedback users who have so much experience that I should be grateful for their assistance in learning to do things the "proper" (read- their) way than I have ever had with brand new 0 feedback users.
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chepistar
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posted on March 21, 2001 11:56:02 AM
ummm...did I neglect to mention that I was a bit peeved about this? Well, I immediately sent the seller a not so nice e-mail to the tune of "guess my 700+ feedback rating isn't good enough". Okay ~ it was a knee jerk reaction ~ I'm curious to see if I get a response or explanation as to why she attempts to deter new eBayers from joining in on the fun. I started out as a buyer and I LOVE eBay!
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capriole
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posted on March 21, 2001 01:17:16 PM
*#$!@&
I hate that.
In my catagory if it weren't for the newbies it would be 3 pages of sales instead of 12 or so.
You don't need to explain a thing, IMHO.
Shouldn't have to flaunt your big feedback.
Unless her TOS said "I nuke zero feedback bidders" turn her/his sorry A$$ into safeharbor.
(okay Glenda, is there a rule somewhere about this?) 
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joanne
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posted on March 21, 2001 01:30:37 PM
I wouldn't cancel the bid from a 0 FB bidder unless the reason they're at 0 is that they have an equal number of pos/neg (eg 5 pos + 5 neg = 0). If a newbie wins a high dollar auction I just request that they send a money order, checks held until cleared.
Newbies are the best - they usually bid often and bid high (remember how you felt when you were a newbie?)
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chepistar
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posted on March 21, 2001 01:31:24 PM
>>>Unless her TOS said "I nuke zero feedback bidders" <<<
ummm....can I plead the "bidders don't read"?
from the auction:
THIS IS A PAY PAL OR BID PAY AUCTION ONLY. DO NOT BID IF YOU CANNOT PAY ELECTRONICALLY! >>insert item desc mumbo jumbo<< I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE AFTER ITEM HAS BEEN SHIPPED. (NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM BUT JUST IN CASE.) NO BIDDERS WITH "0" FEEDBACK, HIDDEN FEEDBACK, OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR NON PAYMENT, THESE WILL BE CANCELLED! ALL SALES FINAL, THANKS SO MUCH!
kind of an arrogant attitude, but it was a cute shirt! BTW, I was wrong about the final price ~ I would have bid up to $30, it actually closed at $23.
Using vranes, of the four negs she has left, two were for newbies and two were for established bidders. Not a well formulated plan, IMO.
I'm pretty sure I only "flaunted my big FB" to be immature and b*tchy.
*It can get ugly around here when someone tries to hold me back from shopping*
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ddeva
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posted on March 21, 2001 01:35:59 PM
My purchasing ID has very little feedback.
When it was at zero, I bid on dozens of auctions. I took 30 seconds to send sellers an e-mail saying, "Never fear, I am not a newbie . I am able to pay via xyx and have read and agree to your terms."
No canceled bids! Considering the sheer volume of bids I was making, I fully expected to make a few sellers nervous.
I don't personally cancel bids from zeroes. I don't even investigate them like I used. I get burned, I jump through the hoops just like everyone else .
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misscandle
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posted on March 21, 2001 01:56:15 PM
Chepistar wrote: "It can get ugly around here when someone tries to hold me back from shopping."
Chepi, may I call you SISTER? Finally, someone who understands my point of view!
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capriole
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posted on March 21, 2001 02:10:39 PM
Oh well.
Her loss.
She lost 7 bucks on the sale and probably gained three new grey hairs.
If she is fussing that badly, she probably did you a favor.
ps I prolly would have done the same, feedbackwise...hehehe.
ubb edit
[ edited by capriole on Mar 21, 2001 02:11 PM ]
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gk4495
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posted on March 21, 2001 02:13:40 PM
I never cancel a newbie bidder. Most of my payment problems have always come from the bidders with feedback in the 15 - 30 range. Besides, I get a kick out of being able to give them their first positive feedback. *That* is fun.
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chepistar
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posted on March 21, 2001 02:33:47 PM
missc:
>>Chepi, may I call you SISTER? <<
Call me anything you like, just don't call me 'til the mall is closed! 
cap:
>>I prolly would have done the same, feedbackwise<<
You?!?, act immaturely?!? okay, maybe to have a little fun, But b*tchy? You don't seem the type...
gk:
I get a *rush* leaving a first feedback, too! How silly are we!!! I just left two today!!!
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capriole
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posted on March 21, 2001 02:54:39 PM
GK
Me too, I love being the first feedback!
So far all have been positives!
Me B****y?
Never, no sir not me.
Uh unh.
Not in a million years.
Make that a billion.
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kittykittykitty
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posted on March 21, 2001 03:12:02 PM
hi chepi!
yes, i take newbie bidders. just had one that was the most fun i've had on ebay so far! can't wait to be the first to leave her glowing feedback.
as to your cancelling seller, as capriole said - her loss!
kitty
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NearTheSea
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posted on March 21, 2001 03:18:26 PM
With that kind of TOS, DEFINITLY show her your feedback...... like they ^ said, her loss.
[email protected]
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minx47
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posted on March 21, 2001 03:44:24 PM
I have had better luck with newbies than oldies...........They are certainly welcome at my auctions. Usually, they try harder as they are looking for that feedback and they are politer than us jaded oldies......I certainly would be angry that your seller had that attitude. I would be tempted to tell them that you have 1200 plus feedback , you were using a second ID and you sell more a month than their total feedback , let them eat crow.......maybe they will think twice next time they pre judge.......And speaking of newbie with zero feedback....Reminds me of the time a Japanese Exchange student in Nevada bought a 500 dollar item from me..he could barely speak English.....he sent me out a bank check, and we got thru the details together and that sweetie sent me a pic of him using his new camera to show me the good pictures he took....(his quote)...it was so touching....YUP, I think newbies are worth the try, we were all there once.....<g>
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akt
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posted on March 21, 2001 04:00:01 PM
newbies are fine, but I am with gk4495 I have more trouble with bidders in the (15-30 feedback range)
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twinsoft
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posted on March 21, 2001 04:19:38 PM
I shudder when I see a [email protected]. They give the other bidders "newbie-itis." I cancel their bids. Plus, the emails I get are a hoot!
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Glenda
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posted on March 21, 2001 07:26:18 PM
capriole,
(okay Glenda, is there a rule somewhere about this?)
From the Bid Cancellation page:
"Sellers may cancel the bid of any user with whom they would be uncomfortable completing a transaction. ..."
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