cmsspu
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posted on April 9, 2001 08:34:32 PM
I sell new collectible toys on ebay! I just check over 40 items and all but 3 are stamped made in China. Some of these items are from big name compaines. Will I be forced off of ebay! Will prices rise on these items due to low suppies. The way I see it China will not be releasing those men and woman sometime soon. This might just go about a year or two! Bush will then not accept any imports from China. Which I will stand by but those anybody know who else knows how to make Hotwheel cars!
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rustybore
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posted on April 9, 2001 08:40:22 PM
The replacment Disc Brake Rotors on my car are "Made in China"
Sheesh...
edited to fix really stoopid tyop...
[ edited by rustybore on Apr 9, 2001 08:45 PM ]
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chenillec
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posted on April 9, 2001 08:51:39 PM
Just about everything made in China. They are the second or third biggest importer to USA. I wouldn't let the poletic affect your business. I am sure import and expot will continue between USA the China with no problem.
Just my 2 cents as Chinese
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reston_ray
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posted on April 9, 2001 10:00:18 PM
I have no opinions on what others should do.
My reaction is not an intellectual position.
It is a response to my gut feelings.
I will not buy and I will not sell items made in China until our troops come home.
I hope the moderators don't close this thread as they did my thread stating this position posted several days ago.
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shop4shoes
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posted on April 10, 2001 02:43:38 AM
Out of the hundreds of styles of shoes I sell nearly every style is made in China. Same with most shoes being sold in the U.S.
I would be in big trouble if I stopped selling shoes made in China.
As for the "situation" with China. I look at it this way.
As of now I don't know which side is telling the truth.
I read newspapers from other countries and quite a few seem to think the US was flying in Chinese airspace without permission. If that is true the the US airmen did something illegal and if China wants to hold or arrest them they are well within their rights.
I don't hear anyone screaming about bring home the "hostages" from Japan. Quite a few military personal are in prison there for commiting crimes.
With that In mind I would not boycott products from anywhere because they held someone that was going to be charged with a crime.
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Microbes
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posted on April 10, 2001 04:20:03 AM
cmsspu:
>With that In mind I would not boycott products from anywhere because they held someone that was going to be charged with a crime
Civilized people either charge someone with a crime (they havn't done that yet), or they are free to come and go.
With that in mind, I will not buy anything "Made in China", and will certainly not ship to China.
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toollady
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posted on April 10, 2001 10:32:50 AM
Just because an item wasn't made in China, doesn't mean a component didn't come from China.
There are several raw materials that only China exports on a large scale to fill the U.S.'s demands. These materials are not readily available elsewhere in the quantity the U.S. needs, at any cost.
Somewhere along the line, China probably had their hand in a finished product that was "Made in the USA".
Sad to say, but very true.
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adone36
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posted on April 10, 2001 01:00:22 PM
"quite a few think we were in Chinese airspace"
Who? Cuba?
The EC3 was 67 miles from China. The world recognizes a 12 mile limit, the Chinese claim a 200 mile limit.
Fact: In instances where a fighter or smaller aircraft overtakes a larger one, it is up to the smaller craft to maintain safe distance. So even if the EC3 pilot "went insane" and hit the poor poor nutjob fighter jock, it makes no difference. AND given the Chinese pilot's record THAT seems highly unlikely.
Know what you are talking about before you make silly statements.
This is all about the strange Oriental custom of "saving face" where you have to admit guilt to stay buddies. Well these 80 yr old fools running that country better figure out that this is a new century. We may let them massacre their own people at will, but pay them to abuse us, I think not.
Bush should and I think will, allow Congress to start chipping away at the concessions we give these thugs until they cry uncle. They may make Hotwheels, but who are they going to sell them to, Chinese kids??? We have been pumping up the Chinese, waiting for those old fogeys to die, so as to foster a relationship with the up and commers. You don't want to teach these new guys thuggery, just the consequences of it.
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juggheadd
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posted on April 10, 2001 01:07:32 PM
adone36
Maybe you and Bush should round up all those Chinese-Americans living in your country and put them in a corral until this thing is settled.
They maybe you should give your head a shake 
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skyline8
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posted on April 10, 2001 01:21:27 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with adone36. I too will refrain from offereing for bid and buying anything made in China until this is resolved.
Not skyline8 on eBay.
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adone36
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posted on April 10, 2001 01:34:03 PM
"quite a few think we were in Chinese airspace"
Who? Cuba?
The EC3 was 67 miles from China. The world recognizes a 12 mile limit, the Chinese claim a 200 mile limit.
Fact: In instances where a fighter or smaller aircraft overtakes a larger one, it is up to the smaller craft to maintain safe distance. So even if the EC3 pilot "went insane" and hit the poor poor nutjob fighter jock, it makes no difference. AND given the Chinese pilot's record THAT seems highly unlikely.
Know what you are talking about before you make silly statements.
This is all about the strange Oriental custom of "saving face" where you have to admit guilt to stay buddies. Well these 80 yr old fools running that country better figure out that this is a new century. We may let them massacre their own people at will, but pay them to abuse us, I think not.
Bush should and I think will, allow Congress to start chipping away at the concessions we give these thugs until they cry uncle. They may make Hotwheels, but who are they going to sell them to, Chinese kids??? We have been pumping up the Chinese, waiting for those old fogeys to die, so as to foster a relationship with the up and commers. You don't want to teach these new guys thuggery, just the consequences of it.
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juggheadd
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posted on April 10, 2001 01:38:27 PM
oh oh --- we're already into reruns here 
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capotasto
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posted on April 10, 2001 02:41:11 PM
There is no such thing as a "new collectible toy"
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bunnicula
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posted on April 10, 2001 03:00:40 PM
Tell that to the beanie baby fans...
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insightwatcher
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posted on April 10, 2001 04:15:12 PM
What I think is funny, is I have 2 or 3 beautiful higher end items, "made in China" which have recently been bought by a lady in China and a man in Japan! You'd think they'd have access a bit closer to home!
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bunnicula
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posted on April 10, 2001 04:25:42 PM
I don't know about Japan, but the Chinese really don't have access to a lot of things that are available in their own country that are meant for foreigners. They even have two types of money--the kind *they* can use and scrip meant for foreigners to use in special shops (& which is illegal for ordinary Chinese to have).
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skip555
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posted on April 10, 2001 04:35:21 PM
if you think wall-mart,nike,ect,ect are going to let our appointed president stop trade with china think again.. to much money at stake..
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gs4
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posted on April 10, 2001 04:56:08 PM
SKIP555
How true. The consumer will not pay for goods made in north america if they can help it. Cheap cost is the byword.
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cavemanjohn
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posted on April 10, 2001 05:14:23 PM
Political Bushwa has nothing to do with the real economics. Made in China?? Read fractions of a frickin penny on the US dollar-that's what Chinese workers are paid.
Boo Hiss ---US Consumers are upset that China made items may not be worthy on eBay or commerce in general?
It's been a travesty from the get go.
China import is more valuable than has ever been realized. The Chinese worker is the one that takes the hit.
Forget Political stance---and think about human rights. There is a human being behind each McDonald Toy your little one loves to get. And that is just the tip of an iceburg of commerce.
The Chinese are valuable--they have a family--they are trying to do the best that they can do in a situation. Politics are just words--They want to have a better life.
Geesh--reading over these words---I am no wordsmith!! But this is my humble thoughts.
Cavemanjohn
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adone36
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posted on April 10, 2001 08:47:33 PM
The trade with China has given the Chinese the highest standard of living they have ever had. This in turn will cause the collapse of their system. Once the avg person realizes what could be, the harder it is for a government to keep the lid on those aspirations.
The current problem is an excuse Congress has been looking for. It has been the executive branch pushing the trade deals as a means of "appeasing" the Chinese government. Congress has been dragged kicking and screaming.
I'll bet this all causes less trade and more unrest in China.
Tony
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skip555
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posted on April 11, 2001 07:31:23 AM
Tony, I don't how yo can say that trade with china is giving them the highst standard of living. Most peaple there are working in close to slave condtions .17 per hour 12 14 hour days beaten if they make mistakes. To make the luxury items US companys are getting rich on ...No I would say it is Us who enjoying the high standard of living on the backs of the Chinese and other peaples. This adminisrtration is going to do what the corparations want and that is to continue the profits So don't worry folks chinese goods will still be available for our ebay sales and enjoyment .
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adone36
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posted on April 11, 2001 09:15:10 AM
I didn't say a high standard of living, I said the highest they've ever had. And you can't compare wages from country to country, it's meaningless. You should pray more foreign companies invest in China, those workers are probably at the top of the Chinese payscale.
The "corporations" have little to do with it. The last few administrations have cajoled Congress into all of the Chinese deals as a means of "influencing" China. Congress is not sympathetic. Something about killing people. And this administration is not going to go out of its' way to maintain these ties. I think soon those goods will be stamped "made in Malaysia" etc.
Tony
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brighid868
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posted on April 11, 2001 09:53:06 AM
"The highest standard of living they've ever had" means nothing either. They were at the bottom of the barrel, and now thanks to the US corporations they're half an inch above the bottom of the barrel.
If they're grateful for that, it says less about the 'benefits' of US employers than it does about the *direness* of their situation.
I make sure my nieces and nephews know that the Mickey Mouse toys they play with are made by children who can't afford to buy those toys. Funny how easy it is for *them* to see the injustice of that, when adults find all kinds of ways to justify such a situation.
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mrlatenite
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posted on April 11, 2001 11:39:08 AM
And this whole thread relates directly to buying and selling on eBay HOW??????????????
Mods--It's time to get more aggressive locking these threads that:
1) Do not relate to anything specific to eBay
2) Are political or anti-/pro- one country or another.
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skip555
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posted on April 11, 2001 11:49:26 AM
FIRST OFF THEY ARE ANNOUNCING THAT ARE PEAPLE WILL BE COMING HOME SOONN !!!!!GREAT!!!now
This thread does relate to ebay the first post was a questioning if a trade ban with china would effect ebay sales....It most certainly would but it will never happen. Lignten up if you don't care for read another thread !!
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