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 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 24, 2001 04:20:57 PM new
I received an email via eBay's mail system from another ebayer.

Here's what it said

To member: XXXXXXXX
From member: XXXXXXXX

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eBay auction XXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXXXX:

Please take a look at my auctions of Occupied Japan pottery. These two items are interesting and I am trying to help those that have an interest in these collectibles to find them on eBay. Thanks for looking. XXX


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This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system.
If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and
not through eBay.

eBay does not tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is
taking steps to protect members from this abuse. In addition, solicitations
to buy or sell items outside of eBay violate eBay rules and are not covered
by services that protect members such as feedback, insurance, escrow, and
dispute resolution. If this is an offer to buy/sell items outside of eBay,
please do not participate. Enter the following link into your browser to learn more. Link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/email_info.html

Ok it says the ebay doesn't tolerate spam, ok some would say this isn't spam, it also says that 'solicitations to buy or sell items outside ebay violates rules, blah blah

So, this one isn't to solicite OUTSIDE ebay, I am taking that it is to look and bid?
Is this 'legal' within ebay?

and to mention, on my auctions, I have my email clickable right in the ad, but this person chose? to use the ebay mail system.







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 dottie
 
posted on April 24, 2001 04:24:08 PM new
NearSea: I don't think eBay would be too thrilled about it... but not much they can do about it either.

If you are interested in the items... go view them and maybe bid. If you're not... just delete the eMail.

Simple.

- Dottie

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 24, 2001 04:31:59 PM new
Well its not that I am so much intertested in them, as I've sold same type thats what kinda made me wonder why this person sends the auction numbers to me? I am rarely a bidder, mostly seller. And it must be an awful lot of work to email people this way? oh well ..




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 abacaxi
 
posted on April 24, 2001 05:17:37 PM new
It's SPAM ... they looked up previous bidders on that item and sent them an ad for their auctions.

Forward to [email protected]

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 24, 2001 06:10:14 PM new
Well I did look, as my previous post indicates and they sure have bids....
and they are brand new too, of course, or...
could be someone that got suspended and is starting again? Only say that as they did a decent ad, and very decent pictures..

Do you think safeharbor will care, and I just wonder, and the only reason I posted this, is I wonder if other sellers are doing this, or is this a rarity?
I mean especially doing it thru ebays (no spam (ha!) system) email forwarding...

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 dudlee
 
posted on April 24, 2001 06:18:28 PM new
I am getting more of these since ebay's new "anti-spam" plan....I get more spam all the way around. i just delete it but it does amuse me that there is an increase.

 
 stamper3
 
posted on April 24, 2001 06:45:13 PM new
This is still Spam and Safeharbor WiLL do something about it.

 
 spyked
 
posted on April 24, 2001 07:05:29 PM new
I got one of those the other day and forwarded the whole message to safeharbor and
got some response asking to send them the message I had received with the "headers" and
everything else. When I had sent them the entire message I had received! I think it was just an excuse to get out of dealing with it, since I got that reply from them before.

Screw it, I just delete them from now on...
 
 ashlandtrader
 
posted on April 24, 2001 07:19:42 PM new
I got something similar and I forwarded it to safeharbor too. I too got the same response about headers. They don't care.

I just delete now too. It doesn't really matter.

 
 mikeselis
 
posted on April 24, 2001 07:27:04 PM new
Do you want headers? In Outlook Express, right click on the message and pick properties, the details, and highlight everything in the details area and copy (control-c) and then paste it (control-v) into the forwarded email.

Ebay will put a warning on their account and enough warnings equals NARU.



"We're flooding people with
information. We need to feed it
through a processor. A human must turn information into
intelligence or knowledge. We've tended
to forget that no computer will ever ask a new question." - Grace Hopper
 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on April 24, 2001 07:30:58 PM new
They don't care.

Probably not very much. Their new anti-spam email "system" is more about keeping buyers and sellers from making off-site deals than it is about keeping your mailbox free of spam.
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 24, 2001 08:01:13 PM new
ah ok that makes sense.. if an email thru their system comes to you asking to check out their auctions, its ok, BUT if an email comes to you (thru ebays system) asking to make an off ebay sale, then they (ebay) definitly would be interested...... its all about the money....




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 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on April 24, 2001 08:09:02 PM new
...if an email thru their system comes to you asking to check out their auctions, its ok,

Well, when you get right down to it, I don't think it is actually ok according to their rules, but I also don't think eBay is nearly as concerned about that scenario as they are where a deal is made of which they don't get a cut.
 
 Juggheadd
 
posted on April 24, 2001 08:44:15 PM new
I have received 3 of these from 3 different people in the last week, all offering me another source for items I am currently bidding on. I contact them and if they have a good deal, I will take them up on it. If I don't want to contact them, I simply delete the email. Not worth wasting my time whinging to the safeharbour idiots. They can't handle the real problems on ebay so why would anyone think they could handle this?

SPAM is coming at us from every direction. Ebay's new email system has not stopped it, but it has provided another piece of interference between a potential buyer (me) and a potential seller who either does not get my questions before closing or who is too ignorant to reply. Based on what others have been telling me, I figure the former is the culpert.

This must be a nightmare for many sellers.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 24, 2001 09:00:22 PM new
Juggheadd-I personally don't like this practice of sellers contacting bidders about what they have, I wouldn't do it myself.

Your comment about ebays email system and sellers not answering questions, is why I put in not 1 but 2 clickable links to my email, for any questions potential bidders would want to ask, and so far, I believe I always answer them pretty promptly. I put the links
to my email in (its also my ebay name) because when they introduced this new email feature, I just didn't trust it. eBay 'breaks down' a lot, so I figure, their email system is gonna punk out at some point.

not NearTheSea on ebay and email below is just for fun




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