loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 10:54:35 AM
I bought a vintage guitar from a super nice elderly lady several weeks ago. It needed work and had changed parts (the tuners) but I paid her (reasonable) asking price. I planned to fix it up and ebay it of course. I gave her my phone number at the time of purchase.
The guitar was sold nearly a month ago and brought far less than I was hoping, due in part, to having changed tuners. A few days ago the lady called and said she had found the original tuners and wanted to send them. I got them today. How many times has someone told you "I'll let you know if I ever find the ______ that goes with that"? You just know they'll never find it or will forget all about it.
The guy that bought the guitar would surely want to have these originals, but I don't think I want to give them away (they are worth something). After all, he got the guitar pretty cheaply in my estimation, and knew that the tuners on the guitar were not original when he bought it.
Would you say "give him the parts you rotten capitalist"? Or, "lucky you, more money in your pocket"?
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sadie999
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posted on May 8, 2001 11:00:34 AM
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sulyn1950
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posted on May 8, 2001 11:07:06 AM
I see nothing wrong with emailing him you have the original tuners if he's intersted. Quote him a fair price (including the cost of shipping) for them, either he wants them or not. If he doesn't want them, I guess you could just put them up for auction and see if anyone else does????
If they have no value-then I probably would just give them to the guy who purchased the guitar they belong on. I would ask for shipping though!
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toke
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posted on May 8, 2001 11:08:40 AM
As long as YOU didn't make the "if I find them I'll send them" promise...sell them!
How about writing him and advising him you "were surprised to be fortunate enough to acquire......yadda, yadda"......and give him a price. If he doesn't buy them, list them.
I think, as the buyer, he should have first refusal. Since he didn't pay the price for the complete and original guitar, though, I don't think you have to give the parts away.
I assume the tuners have value sold by themselves?
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 11:11:01 AM
Oh, they have some value. I could see them bringing $35 pretty easily.
The bummer is, if I would have had them a month ago, I might have got another $100 or more out of the guitar, because the overall value would have been enhanced, of course.
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oxford
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posted on May 8, 2001 12:23:56 PM
DEFINATELY sell them - as you said, you probably lost $100 by not having them on in the first place. Offer them to him first, and remember he will profit from having them on the guitar if he should decide to sell it. If he is not interested - list them.
I vote for:
"lucky you, more money in your pocket"
Barb
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 03:40:06 PM
Well, get this.
I emailed him with the news (with an asking price of $50) and he wants me to give them to him. This is what I was worried about. Here's what he wrote:
"Hi Steve, For the money I paid you for the guitar, I think it would be nice if you gave them to me. They do belong with this guitar. Thanks alot"
I haven't sent him an email yet, but I have one typed up.
"XXXX, sorry you feel that way. I think the guitar went cheap for a XXXXXX. And, it went for that price it, in part, because it didn't have the original tuners."
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gs4
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posted on May 8, 2001 03:47:24 PM
Just list the item and see what you can get for it. I would not give it away. See what happens when you try to do a good deed.
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sulyn1950
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posted on May 8, 2001 03:51:26 PM
I probably wouldn't even reply to him. I would just list them. You are never going to convince him the guitar would have gone higher with the original tuners. He has left your FB already I hope?
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 03:57:06 PM
Yes, he already left me good feedback on the guitar. I could just imagine him being pi$$ed off enough to bid on the tuners, then give me a neg. LOL
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Twelvepole
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posted on May 8, 2001 03:58:12 PM
Lucky you they already left feedback.
Also it's against Ebay's rules now to offer offsite sales LOL So suppose he sends the email to Safeharbor?
Ain't Life Grand... 
[ edited by Twelvepole on May 8, 2001 04:00 PM ]
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:03:19 PM
Get a life Twelvepole.
He already bought the guitar as it was and was pleased enough to give a positive fb.
But Twelvepole never sees things from a seller's perspective. Soooo slanted. One side, or should I say--one dimensional.
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:06:17 PM
And it's not against the rules to offer a sale to someone you have done business with before.
Ebay doesn't own me or my merchandise. They own a small percentage of what I sell on their site. Get it straight, will you?
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:08:26 PM
Ivan the Terrible
Attilla the Hun
Twelvepole the Antagonizer
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Twelvepole
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:08:42 PM
Ooooh personal attacks.... how original.
I also now sell for your information... 
I personally would of offered the tuners for FREE to the high bidder.
But then I don't need to nickel and dime my buyers to make a living.
Ain't Life Grand...
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discoverybooks
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:09:02 PM
I'd block the guy from bidding on your auctions, and then list the tuners.
It sounds like you handled the situation well. Personally, if I'd bought the guitar in that condition and gotten a fair price, I'd have no problem with being offered the opportunity to buy the tuners at a later date.
If you don't mind my asking, what are they from? My dad restores old guitars, and he has a couple right now that are missing the original tuners. He might be interested in these.
Rima
http://discoverybooks.org
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Twelvepole
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:11:35 PM
Ivan the Terrible
Attilla the Hun
Twelvepole the Antagonizer
Such Esteemed company.... Why thank you
Ain't Life Grand...
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Twelvepole
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:20:15 PM
FYI
Fee avoidance - Circumventing eBay fees. Examples:
Using member contact information obtained from eBay or using any eBay feature to offer to sell any listed item outside of eBay
Hmmmmmm.....
Ain't Life Grand...
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:20:17 PM
It's a comparison that you've been aspiring to for such a long time.
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:22:53 PM
offer to sell any listed item outside of eBay
The parts aren't listed.
Get it?
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triplesnack
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:25:28 PM
Since loosecannon initiated this contact with the buyer, he at least owes him the courtesy of a reply. I would agree that arguing about what price the guitar might have brought with the tuners is a dead end and poor form. The sale of the guitar is a done deal. Would've been nice if you'd been able to sell the tuners with it, and maybe gotten a better price, but you didn't. Period. Nothing unethical about offering the buyer the tuners for $50 at this point, but a little tacky in my opinion -- in a way, trying to re-negotiate the price on something that's already a done deal. If I had bought the guitar and the seller doubled back and offered me its tuners for $15 more than what they would otherwise sell for, I might be inclined to respond the same way as this buyer did.
I would assume that if the buyer went ahead and bought the tuners for $50, we wouldn't be kicking any of that money back to the nice elderly lady who we initially got them from. 'Coz that's also a done deal.
At this point I would email the buyer and just say, "Sorry you're not interested, I wanted to give you first crack at them before I list them on eBay." It would also seem to be in somewhat poor form and "sour grapes" to block this buyer from bidding on them as discoverybooks has suggested -- and probably not good business sense either; as you've already expressed, this buyer would probably have the most interest in acquiring these particular tuners and would be your best bet for driving the price up, and getting top dollar for them.
And as a "rotten capitalist" that's what you want, isn't it?
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toke
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:27:17 PM
Arghhh. What a jerk.
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joice
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:28:40 PM
loosecannon,
Please remember that you have a handy dandy ignore button at your disposal. It might be appropriate for you to use it in this thread.
You are putting your posting privileges at risk by insulting another AW member.
Joice
[email protected]
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joice
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:30:45 PM
toke,
Calling another AW member a jerk will place your posting privileges in jeopardy. Please make use of your ignore button.
Joice
[email protected]
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mcjane
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:31:23 PM
He has a chance to complete his guitar and make it a lot more valuable & he's too greedy & stupid to see that.
The tuners do not belong with the guitar at this point. Give them to him, how did he come up with that one.
List them & don't let him bid. Hope you get more that 50.00
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toke
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:36:49 PM
joice...
I was referring to the buyer of the guitar. I posted advice earlier in this thread, that I'm now sorry loosecannon took.
BAD spelling
[ edited by toke on May 8, 2001 04:38 PM ]
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joice
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:38:20 PM
Oops!
toke please accept my apology! I hit the submit button and saw your post and reacted too quickly. 
Joice
[email protected]
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loosecannon
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:39:00 PM
Whew Toke! Thanks for making that clear who you were referring to. Had me worried.
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toke
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:40:00 PM
LOL! I've been known to do that myself...hard to believe, I know...
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toke
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posted on May 8, 2001 04:47:44 PM
loosecannon...
I admit...it was extremely easy to misconstrue. I may have been in the RT a little too much...
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