jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 08:27:01 PM
I posted this rant on my me page last month around tax time..
within a day....eBay deleted it....They did let me rebuild it after their
warning..check it out and tell me if i was wrong or are we living
in an eBay dictatorship....
HELLO TO ALL EBAY BUYERS AND SELLERS...I JUST GOT TO TELL YA ..I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING RIPPED OFF BY MY SILENT BUSINESS PARTNER EBAY.COM....DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR FIRST CELL PHONE ? I DO ...MINE WAS OVER $1,000 DOLLARS ..HOW ABOUT THE COST OF A NEW VCR...I PAID $1,200. TODAY YOU CAN BUY ONE 10 TIMES NICER FOR AROUND $79.00. I JUST DID MY YEAR END BOOKS AND I PAID EBAY AN UNBELIEVABLE SOME OF $20,000. DOLLARS LAST YEAR IN LISTING FEES..(THAT'S RIGHT 20 THOUSAND).....I ALMOST FELL OVER WITH A HEART ATTACK WHEN MY ACCOUNTANT GAVE ME THE NEWS.I WILL SOON BE SHIFTING SOME OF MY AUCTIONS TO MY NEW AUCTION HOUSE
XXXXX.COM
FOR A FLAT 20 BUCKS A MONTH YOU CAN LIST 2500 AUCTIONS..IF MORE EBAY SELLERS START LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS MAYBE EBAY WILL TAKE NOTICE AND THEIR FEES WILL RETURN TO TODAYS MARKET SHARE..
[ edited by jumpinjacko on May 8, 2001 10:14 PM ]
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twinsoft
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posted on May 8, 2001 08:33:33 PM
What, specifically, was the nature of the warning? I know eBay doesn't allow links to other auction sites.
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 08:47:59 PM
I didn’t save the email...but it referred to the promoting
of an other auction site....
I might add.. I also posted it to a few running auction at that time..I think that is how I was nabbed...someone told me they run their competitors
name through their search engines...looking for things like that..
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amy
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:05:12 PM
tell me if i was wrong
Yup..you were wrong...and incredibly tacky too!
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:24:26 PM
To Amy
Most ebay bidders ......have not a clue what ebay
charges......This doesn’t fry your 888s that there are other
auction houses that can do the same job for pennies...?
Sure they don’t have the punch that the “ALL MIGHTY ONE” has...
and as far as tacky..well.. fly paper is tacky......yet the fly doesn’t know it..
[ edited by jumpinjacko on May 8, 2001 09:25 PM ]
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twelvepole
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:34:28 PM
Why would a bidder care what EBay charges? They have the items MOST bidders want.
Ain't Life Grand... 
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PAINSS
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:36:50 PM
Wow 20 thousand dollars in listing fees.Then it should be safe to say you made at least $40, or $50,000. Why are you complaining.You have to spend money to make money.
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amy
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:37:17 PM
Hi Jumpinjacko...
To stand in another's place of business and shout to all the customers how they can get the merchandise cheaper somewhere else IS tacky in my opinion.
And that is what you did by using the me page to try and persuade ebay's customers to go someplace else...tacky, tacky, tacky!!
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:44:21 PM
Good point 12p...
If they knew.....maybe some of them would pay for the auctions they
have won........I have a 12% no show on pay day...
Yet ebay make easy for a deadbeat buyer to open a new account...
This is so ebay can make more money....We sellers have to relist again
and again...and deadbeats keep bidding and bidding...
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:46:34 PM
To pain
Thats not the point...
Bill Gates still eats a burger king....
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:49:18 PM
To amy...
How many seller are promoting their website from
their ebay auctions..
is that right?
[ edited by jumpinjacko on May 8, 2001 09:53 PM ]
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sasoony
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posted on May 8, 2001 09:54:49 PM
jumpinjack; When you say "market share", if you are talking about the traffic and sales eBay generates in comparison to their fees, I believe eBay is one of the few realistic options for most online sellers.
If you discover another site that generates enough sales to justify their fees please let us know. I would prefer listing on another site other than eBay.
I was considering listing items on my website and paying to be listed on the pay-per-click sites, so I was wondering if anyone has had any success with any of the pay-per-click search engines.
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 10:06:09 PM
The reason ebay charges the fees that they do...is because
“THEY CAN” they have no competition (to speak of). And we all pay fees
and ask for more,more more.
because we are all making the MONEY...
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Capriole
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posted on May 8, 2001 10:21:04 PM
...Actually Bill has a taste for Dicks Drive In...a Seattle greasy spoon if there ever was one!
BTW Your ebay page is brought to you courtesy of Ebay! Ta DA!!!
It's a corporate space!!! Voila!!!!
This does not mean that you can use it as a Free Speach Stomping Ground! Or advertise another auction house.
Corporate speech!
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jumpinjacko
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posted on May 8, 2001 10:44:51 PM
My dearest cap...
I couldn’t agree with you more...that’s why I didn’t push the issue.....
I still think competition is good...
Thank god for BURGER KING...WENDY’S and JACK IN THE BOX..
other wise you would be paying around 10 bucks for a BIG MAC..
EBAY NAME
JUMPIN*JACK
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Capriole
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posted on May 8, 2001 11:12:45 PM
I think another thread discussed a seller's concept of hanging his deadbeats out to dry a la ebay about me page.
It too was yanked and he wasn't happy.
I suppose you could try a geocities page or host something on your own isp.
I never know how many folks are reading my about me page. I should add a counter...hmmm...
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jrb3
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posted on May 9, 2001 02:03:42 AM
I can't stand sellers who B&Moan about Ebay but stay on making money hand over fist. If you don't like it LEAVE. I mean how tacky can you be stating how much money you paid Ebay last year? Why don't you just post your W-2 Form on your page while you're at it. JUST LEAVE & LET US MAKE THE MONEY
JB
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skip555
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posted on May 9, 2001 05:21:10 AM
You paid 20,000 for listing fees becouse you chose to list. You can easily change just stop listing.
No one is forcing you to do biz on ebay..but as you say the other venues dont bring the results ebay does.
I to find your rants on ebay and pay-pal tacky to say the least and I suspect your me page costs you bids.
It's a big world , find places and things that please you !!!
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zoomin
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posted on May 9, 2001 06:11:18 AM
Sorry, JACKO, a rant anti-eBay using eBay as the host is a boo-boo. I have seen many of them, though (I think I'm one of the token few reading those pages!)
CAP:
My counter has over 1000 hits ~ I put it on less than a year ago. It's just hard to know how many of those hits were me
IMO, eBay takes a fair fee for the business they enable me to do. Actually, the only *real* issues I have regarding fees is with respect to DB's. If eBay is making it so simple for deadbeat's to continue transacting/establish new ID's, why only give me back the FVF when I have spent so much time attempting contact, requesting payment, filing NPB, waiting to file FVF, negging, and re-listing? If eBay would clean up the deadbeat pool, I would have a lot more time to make $$!! But as long as this "venue" makes cash on the losers, I fear that a change is nowhere in sight. eBay would be foolish to give up that kind of cash flow when seller's willingly pay it.
VERY disrespectful to the seller's. Not nice.
*sigh*
Still the biggest bang for the buck, though.
JMHO.
(edit: excuse the typo's before the caffeine kicks in, please!)
[ edited by zoomin on May 9, 2001 06:14 AM ]
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llama_lady
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posted on May 9, 2001 06:51:18 AM
Umm, I do believe this falls under biting the hand that feeds you.
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on May 9, 2001 07:34:45 AM
You have to look at the big picture here. Sure you could list items cheaper at the other auction site. That would save you money. BUT how many people are actually bidding on items on that site? Can you justify the difference in the amount you carry in your pocket at the end of the week with the cheaper listing fees?
You can buy a Hyundai alot cheaper than a Toyota. BUT you get what you pay for. The same applies here.
You are paying for the bidders eBay draws. They may not be the only game in town, and at times I'm sure they upset us all but they do have the bidders. Your profit comes from those same bidders.
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computerboy
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posted on May 9, 2001 07:48:04 AM
eBay has been the closest thing to free money that I've ever seen and I've been in business for myself a long time...
Throw a few listings up, wait until the money comes and ship.
Folks, it don't get any easier than this...
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roofguy
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posted on May 9, 2001 08:04:02 AM
Jumpinjacko, do you imagine that anyone actually READS a full page of unformatted uppercase text?
Nobody does, except eBay, and maybe auctiowatch readers looking to see what the fuss was about. Classic lose lose.
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wallypog
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posted on May 9, 2001 12:30:26 PM
Okay--here's an interesting thought. Now I do have a less than interesting ME page at eBay. After going through major hoops to get the darned thing edited a while back (I had to download Netscape because it wouldn't work with IE5!) I put in a link for folks to visit my website along with a warning about what happens if you make a ME page and want to edit/delete it (yes, eBay knows about the content, too, LOL).
Anyway, I'm not sure just how many page views my ME page gets because I didn't add a counter and haven't been truly active on eBay for some time. However, I do know from my site statistics that ME pages and links in your auctions do bring visitors to your site.
eBay has a two-click rule and it's super easy to abide by that rule. I have one link to my main site, and another to a page that lists the various auction sites my other listings are on. With only a half-dozen auctions running on eBay the page views for the auctions page jumped tremendously during a 7-day run of those auctions. My website also picked up a bunch of traffic from eBay.
I always figure, too, that 'bashing' isn't going to do much good. Occasionally I get on a verbal bashing roll here at home but try to keep it here--and it doesn't last very long. I've bashed a little publically and it doesn't do any good at all, LOL. It's a lot easier to just say, 'okay, in the overall scope of things just how important is this? And if it's really important, then try doing something constructive about it.' This doesn't always work, but it did bring about the development of my website and newsletter. AND thanks to all of the just absolute ding-aling decisions (IMHO of course) eBay has made recently I'm discovering a vast world outside of eBay and have met just tons and tons of super auction people I otherwise would have never known!
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http://www.wallypogsbog.bizland.com
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gravid
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posted on May 9, 2001 02:26:11 PM
Yup you can save big bucks by going to a different auction.
You can also save big bucks by taking your business out of an expensive mall in a nice neighborhood and renting a basement flat in a crappy run down neighborhood.
Now you tell me why you would not do that....
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