posted on May 15, 2001 10:54:20 AM new
Oh YES, you can count ME in!! I think we all need to pull together and help poor eBay since they obviously don't have any money to hire their own "link police" and we really don't have anything better to do with our time. Where do I sign up?
posted on May 15, 2001 11:07:02 AM new
Sounds like typical eGreed screwing sellers anyway possible, while doing nothing about the deadbeat/feedback problems. Everyday its becoming clearer and clearer they dont care about the small sellers. Lets see if they go after the big boys............or like another member posted everyone should change their user id to their web address.
posted on May 15, 2001 11:07:22 AM new
"EBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove said that enforcing the anti-hyperlink policy will "involve a large dependency on eBay users" since there is no technology that can scan the 5 million auctions taking place at any one time. "
I'm sorry, but "EBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove" is an idiot. You don't NEED any add-on technology to "scan the 5 million auctions", buddy...you simply make it impossible for people to ADD "href" statements or anything containing http:// into their auction descriptions...and then hey, guess what? No more links to other websites appear! You don't scan the database, you just have a rule put on the entry screens that validate whatever sellers enter (which I would assume, for the love of god, that they HAVE to have something doing that already...) that makes the inclusion of anything like that physically impossible. Sure, they can still put the text of "visit my site at www.whatever.com" ...but it won't be a hyperlink, and people would have to copy and paste into their browser window (or, heaven forbid, actually [gasp] TYPE it in themselves!) to go there.
I swear, I ask myself DAILY why people put in charge of technology aren't forced to actually be qualified to do so...
posted on May 15, 2001 11:22:59 AM new
EchoDave-
Won't that also keep people from using picture hosts other than eBay (possibly a future plan of theirs, but not a current one)? My pictures use an http: statement.
posted on May 15, 2001 11:26:04 AM new
Ok dave, humor me, I'm blonde and not too computer literate, but wouldn't forbidding anything containing http:// sorta make it hard to link to a pic?
edited to add: rca001, you're quicker than I am!
[ edited by BlondeSense on May 15, 2001 11:27 AM ]
[[Won't that also keep people from using picture hosts other than eBay (possibly a future plan of theirs, but not a current one)? My pictures use an http: statement.]]
Well, two things:
1) eBay starts making money charging people to host images and bans external hosting [shudder]
2) My initial suggestion was simply banning "href" statements, which would still allow "img src" statements within HTML. Therefore, you could do all of the image referencing you wanted to, but no linking. Just simply putting a filter in on the letters "href" being used together would clear up this problem, and leave image linking alone.
BlondeSense:
Same answer as above, I just wanted to comment that I laughed at your nick
posted on May 15, 2001 12:14:10 PM new
But Dave, that would also ban those "third party" links that eBay so generously is still allowing us to put in our listings. Now, what would we do if we couldn't have those Billpoint logos at the bottom of our auctions!
posted on May 15, 2001 12:25:13 PM new
petertdavis:
[[But Dave, that would also ban those "third party" links that eBay so generously is still allowing us to put in our listings. Now, what would we do if we couldn't have those Billpoint logos at the bottom of our auctions! ]]
While you can rest safely assured that I definitely catch your sarcasm , it would be safe to note that the inclusion of Billpoint logos would be a function of the HTML as generated by eBay rather than anything entered by the seller. I would assume that they (they being "eBay" in this case), because of their relationship with Billpoint would include a checkbox or something on the seller's side of the equation (having never sold anything on eBay, I have no clue what those pages look like, so I'm completely winging it here...) that would automatically include logos that you wanted.
In fact, I could ALSO see this being a potential revenue stream for eBay, as they would then have the opportunity to charge people like BidPay, PayPal, and the like whatever fees they wanted to in order to give them the "privilege" of letting sellers display logos and links to their site(s).
Of course, this would mean further bad news for sellers, as you can bet the farm that companies paying for such a "privilege" would also be passing those fees DIRECTLY onto seller's for using that "privilege" as well.
....hmmmmmmm. wait a minute. Do people actually FROM eBay read these boards? I might be giving them too many bad ideas...[chuckle]
posted on May 15, 2001 12:43:55 PM new
Isn't it ironic that eBay is depending upon the very same sellers who are being alienated with constant, stifling policy shifts to actually police & enforce these new rules?
What happens when sellers just get tired of doing eBay's work for them? Is there a breakdown in system?
posted on May 15, 2001 12:55:55 PM new
Banning href code would fung up a number of things, besides just removing the possibity of someone posting a link to their web site. That's why eBay won't be as stupid [I hope] as do to such a thing.
I say we [deputies] go after the VERO folks first.
posted on May 15, 2001 08:31:06 PM new
>>Do you realize just how many people out there ENJOY/GET OFF on eBay police work? It's a sport to many I'm sure.<<
I have to say Morgantown is correct. I have probably had about 30 or so (other peoples) auctions zapped by safeharbor for various violations in the last month alone.
The worst offender to me is keyword spammers. Some of the fools even put KEYWORD right in the description!
Second is the freebie offers. Anyone that puts "free with purchase"..........zap!
Then there is always someone who puts NO RESERVE in the subject line, yet there is a reserve in the listing.
I don't go looking for them, but if I do happen upon one I will not hesitate to let ebay know. As a buyer when these violations show up they affect me by either wasting my time or trying to bribe me with stuff.
One of the great things about ebay is that they are not affraid to remove a listing if you complain. (then they tell you exactly what they did about it!)
posted on May 16, 2001 05:33:05 AM new
>Not only do some enjoy it... they actually come out of the woodwork to brag about it!<
Ok Aslandtrader, part my fault for admitting that I do report people for obvious violations.
First, I do not 'enjoy' doing a search for "DINK" and getting back 31,457 "not a DINK, or DINK like" hits. Anyone that buys on ebay had had similar results, I'm sure.
Second, as an ebay seller I often look through other peoples auctions to see what the competition has to offer. (no point in trying to sell something if you cannot beat their price)
It's the ones that offer a "Buy it from me and get this for free" that I also respond to. Bidder enticement is not allowed in many states and is also a clear violation of the ebay TOS.
And for the No Reserve deal, well, just another of the things that bug me.
We all agreed to play by ebay rules, like them or not.
The rules are there for a reason, just like speed limits.
We all tend to drive a few miles over until we get caught, then it's always the cops fault for hiding in the bushes....or all of the other guys are driving that fast....(insert your excuse here)
Seems as if everyone complains about ebay in some form, yet all are still listing (or buying) stuff there. As for me, I see a few things that I don't like but all in all it's still the best place to market stuff. (best bang for the buck)
To each his own I guess. I'll keep listing away as long as possible, or until something better comes along. (I don't see that happening any time soon)
Also weird (from the looks of many comments here)is the fact that we have had no problems with PayPal! Last time I checked better than 6 out of 10 of our auctions were closed via PP payments. (120 in the last 60 days)I don't mind them getting a little taste of our profit since it speeds up payments, and PP sends out all of our invoices for us. (that and the ebay BIN option make our job pretty easy)
Sorry that my honesty about reporting a few ebay TOS violations upset a few of you. Perhaps if we had auctions ended for those violations I would be on the other side of the fence also.......
posted on May 16, 2001 08:45:50 AM new
SOLDat2,
Actually I agree with you. I just saw the obvious and felt like pointing it out. It is the devil's advocate in me. :0)
I like the idea of having to give your info when making a complaint. It won't stop legitimate complaints and it makes sense. Of course ebay will never do it. After all it makes sense. :0)
Ebay does have the most bang for the buck-- but it is fun to complain about them too. reduces stress too!
posted on May 16, 2001 11:27:00 AM new
Considering you are supposed to be a registered user to make a complaint... they already have your information.
So yep I would still turn in sellers.
Ain't Life Grand...
posted on May 16, 2001 12:49:43 PM new
>Actually I agree with you. I just saw the obvious and felt like pointing it out. It is the devil's advocate in me. :0)<
Whoops, my bad Ashlandtrader. I thought that it was a 'newbie' assault on me.
Please accept my apology. I was not bragging about the fact that I have (and will) turn a few people in to ebay, just being honest that I do.
And I agree that ebay should have all of your info if you do, mostly because they already do anyway.
Remember when anyone could leave feedback for you for no reason???
(that was scary)
posted on May 16, 2001 12:56:36 PM new
SOLDat2,
Apology accepted (but not necessary). Please accept mine as well. I did not intend to come across the way that it sounded at all and hope that you keep posting.
Take care!
[[First, I do not 'enjoy' doing a search for "DINK" and getting back 31,457 "not a DINK, or DINK like" hits. Anyone that buys on ebay had had similar results, I'm sure.]]
MAN, I hate this. Most of my "shopping" on eBay is for DVD's. I am *sooooo* sick and tired of getting roughly 50% or more of the search returns based one or more of the following:
- "not a DVD" on VHS sales
- VCD/DVD (no, it's a VCD, so don't put DVD at all)
- "we also sell DVD's!" I don't care what you "also" do.
