jrb3
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posted on May 20, 2001 06:13:21 PM
My jewelry items normally sell $5-$35 sometimes I luck out and get a big ticket item, as a fluke.
I recently sold a widget that closed at $305 the high bidder stated he didn't want to buy it because it wasn't what he thought. I sent an offer to the next 3 bidders. Then a funny thing happened the next 2 high bidders both replied to the offer with sorry I no longer want the item. But both replies came in same type exact same wording both with aol addresses so I investigated and both are on same aol account. One account had been open for 2 years with 0 feedback. Always bidding on others auction.
He then emails me 2 weeks later and offers $125 for the item.
I relisted in a btter category and it sits at $306 all week today I notice the bid was $509 so I look at the high bidder 0 feedback account opened today.
I canceled the bid and blocked the bidder. Something sneaky going on here. I think I'm even going to close it 5 minutes early to avoid a snipe by BRAND NEW bidder.
I think these 2 or 3 ID's or bidders raise the prices up then back out and offer a ton less.
Any suggestions?
Joe B
Before relisting I blocked the deadbeat and 2 questionable bidders.
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Microbes
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posted on May 20, 2001 06:56:40 PM
>I relisted in a btter category and it sits at $306 all week today I notice the bid was $509 so I look at the high bidder 0 feedback account opened today.
>I canceled the bid and blocked the bidder.
I wouldn't have canceled the bid just because it was a new user with 0 feedback. Some of these are big spenders. You might very well have just thrown $200 away.
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jrb3
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posted on May 20, 2001 07:09:47 PM
Yeah but he just signed up today, after the last item went so high (it came in a lot of jewelry from an auction) I had a dealer look at it and they said it was worth $250 to 300.
I also did a info request and this bidder was in same zip as other 2 questionable bidders.
JB
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dsgn
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posted on May 20, 2001 07:12:55 PM
I think it is strange also. I too have encountered a few things that were suspious such as in this instance. I too think that I would have let the bid go and offered it to the underbidder if it fell through. I have sold some high end items to brand new bidders, and have also had some bid, then disappear.
Good Luck
Bygrace
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Microbes
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posted on May 20, 2001 07:22:31 PM
>I also did a info request and this bidder was in same zip as other 2 questionable bidders.
THAT would make me wonder, but I probably wouldn't have pulled their info in the first place...
I do remember one Item I got deadbeated on 3 times in a row. I thought something strange was going on with it (like maybe someone wanted it, but keep getting bid up higher than they wanted, so they deadbeated, and bid with a different ID next time hoping it would go cheap.). I waited about 6 months and listed it again, and sold it.
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nofishing
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posted on May 20, 2001 08:23:36 PM
I hope you posted negative feedback.
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twinsoft
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posted on May 20, 2001 08:28:24 PM
Write everything down, including the bidder ids and your suspicion of shill bidding, and send it to safeharbor. It happened to me and safeharbor suspended the bozo.
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Empires
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posted on May 20, 2001 08:40:16 PM
Can you still do a request for information on the three bidders? See if they come back to the same user- now that would be spooky!
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jrb3
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posted on May 20, 2001 09:35:34 PM
The other odd thing was there maximum bid was outrageous.
The thing that ticked me off was the guy who was the high bidder who claimed the y bid by accident said oh that is much too high I thought it was something different, you will be lucky to get $125.
The n the second high 2nd (and 3rd) bidder emails me and asks if I'll sell for $125.
This is also a type of widget I'm not real familiar with.
After 4 years on Ebay sometimes you just get that gut feeling someones jerking your chain.
Joe B
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kidsfeet
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posted on May 21, 2001 05:25:16 AM
Twinsoft:
It is called bid shielding. Shilling is when the seller bids on his own auctions. Shielding is when a bidder (with two or more other ID's) bids an item outrageously high, then cancels the two high bids, leaving his lowball bid intact.
DEFINATELY report it will all information available.
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zeenza
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posted on May 21, 2001 07:10:01 AM
JRB. You are saying this was your auction right?
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roofguy
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posted on May 21, 2001 08:19:11 AM
Sounds like someone's yanking the chain.
Usually there's some reason.
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jrb3
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posted on May 21, 2001 08:56:37 AM
This guy is upset because last time he decided he didn't want the item and got PO'd when I filed NPB & FVF.
I blocked him from my auctions now I just need to get the other bidders info if they are the same guy I can get them NARU'D
Joe B
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twinsoft
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posted on May 21, 2001 10:09:47 AM
kidsfeet, in my case it was auction interference but you are right, this sounds like bid shielding.
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