fountainhouse
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:08:55 PM new
Okay, guys, help me out. Over the years here I've read some devilishly creative ways of getting even in cyberspace, but darned if I can remember them now that I need them!
I'm not out a lot of money (just $31), but the guy is so slick, that I know he's had to have done this before and I hate to let him off scot-free. He won an auction (for a ROSARY holder, of all things), and paid with check. I shipped immediately because I've never held shipments for checks to clear, and it wouldn't have helped anyway unless I had held it for a month.
The check bounced -- twice.
Feedback was exchanged long ago; I can't file for FVF (to at least give him a black mark) because it's well past the 45-day limit; and he refuses to respond to any of my emails.
Any evil suggestions?
Nancy
[email protected]
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Zazzie
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:12:02 PM new
Contact his local police station and tell them you want to lay charges against him for "Bad Check Passing"
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:12:52 PM new
Sign him up with PayPal? 
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mlriche
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:13:56 PM new
Here's a link for Tessa's help page. A lot of the stuff at the beginning isn't going to be any good for you - but get down to the middle of the page where she starts talking about NSF checks.
http://www.mindspring.com/~bookdealers/nopay.html
Good luck!!
mary
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misscandle
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:15:52 PM new
My evil side has considered mailing deadbeats a lava rock from the Big Island of Hawaii. Said to bring bad luck to the recipient from the Hawaiian volcano goddess Pele. Of course, my good side keeps spoiling all my fun and won't let me do it.
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TammiAndy
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:20:08 PM new
Please read the "Item sent-Customer cancels payment" I just posted. I wonder if we are talking about the same person....you can e-mail me at [email protected] if you would like... 
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mrspock
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:45:58 PM new
Not to burst ahy bubbles but it is probably a waste of time to call local police. where I live they give you a handout from the state attorneys office and there are seven things you must have on the check before they will do anything ...all of them require you to take the check in person ,,,,it probably varies by jurisdticion but unlesss he lives in a really small town the law will probably do nothing
what I would do is fill out every contest form I came accross with his name (tella market lists are made from these contest list)
Recently I read somewhere may have been on this board but make a small 1.00 contribution to tv evanglist...request info in his name from kkk american nazi party ect.
sign nim up on mailing list from a few sex sites.
Get creative lots you can do along these lines .
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bogalucy
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:56:28 PM new
Mail him an egg!
Just stick a nice wee eggie in a biiiiig envelope and drop it into the mail box.
heh heh heh
Just kidding, but probably the best you could do given the circumstances.
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debbielennon
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posted on June 8, 2001 02:57:14 PM new
File a claim through madagency.com--and be sure to ask for the value of the check and all penalties that you are allowed to assess under your particular state law. If he does not pay, it could end up on his credit report, plus he has to deal with the collections agency
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fountainhouse
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:06:53 PM new
zazzie, I think mspock is right about PDs not getting involved, especially since the amount here is insignificant.
BTW, I like your ideas, mspock, but the suggestion about the sex sites made me chuckle. It seems my guy has a penchant for buying X-rated videos -- he'd probably be grateful for the leads!
mrpotatohead - That's just too cruel!
mary - Thanks so much for that link. I'm going to bookmark it!
misscandle - I hear 'ya. Karma and all. Truth be told, when I calm down I probably won't end up doing anything ... but it's always good to have a list of options when you need them!
TammiAndy - The M.O. is different and mine's a guy. He's from St. Louis -- was yours?
Keep 'em coming, folks. Maybe I'll buy some of that chocolate cat doo-doo and send him another shipment for free...
Nancy
[email protected]
ubb
[ edited by fountainhouse on Jun 8, 2001 03:07 PM ]
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gravid
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:08:09 PM new
MADD collection agency will keep after him and put a mark on his credit record if you want to contact them online and send the
details of the transaction.
If you want to spend the money to have this person investigated privately it has been my experience on several occasions that
being a slime ball with you means he will be a slimeball in other areas of life.
Once you have the goods on him if he is a gambler or cheats on his wife - cheats on his taxes - drives drunk - buys drugs etc. It is
pretty easy to make his life very complicated without doing anything illegal.
We had a neighbor who had loud wild parties and his guests would block us in. They would be out yelling and throwing beer
bottles and urinating in public. One morning as they were breaking up I took my cell phone and followed them as they left and had
4 cars from this party pulled over and arrested for DUI. That was about half his guests in one day so the parties were throttled
way back when they compared notes and realized how many of them had gotten caught in one night.
Of course if you find his wife or kids are into something bad that hits his wallet and takes his time almost as much as if you find
him doing something.
There are also sneaky things you can do if you put your mind to it that are not outright illegal. Flowers arriving without any good
explanation and lovey little thank you cards
will create a lot of questions if the basis of mistrust is already there. If a person
works for a large company receiving letters with the return address of competitors is often noticed and worried about. Very
subtle but effective. Just receiving information packages from support groups and political organizations is often viewed with
unwarranted suspicion.
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fountainhouse
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:15:01 PM new
WONDERFUL ideas, gravid.
I like the way your mind works!
<evil grin>
Nancy
[email protected]
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kittykittykitty
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:23:03 PM new
nancy,
10 years ago i got REALLY PEEVED at someone. now i never did it, but what i *thought* of doing (thought often and gleefully) was to write to scientology as him, saying i was very very interested in joining, and giving his address.
somehow the organization had gotten ahold of my name and address, and i was receiving 5+ pieces of their promotional material. A WEEK! for THREE YEARS! despite writing on the material 'return to sender, please remove from lists.' despite 3 phone calls requesting the same. (what finally did get me off their lists was saving up a month's worth, putting it in a large envelope with no return address and no postage
no offense intended to anyone who belongs to it - just my experience.
kittyx3
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gravid
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:39:39 PM new
The keeping it legal part is what limits it.
Sending donations and seeking membership in his name could be regarded as identity theft.
If you are going over the line you better know how to have mail relayed from other states and keep all prints/saliva/hair/fibers and tracable printing off documents.
If you want to get real dirty you could have illegal items sent to him and alert the postal inspectors that he is trafficing in endangered or protected species or drugs for example.
Just possesing feathers from song birds that they have shed naturally is a serious offense as an example. Easy to aquire without exposing yourself to danger. However they are SO good there is the danger they will catch YOU. The postal inspectors make the FBI look like a bunch of cub scouts when it comes to investigation.
[ edited by gravid on Jun 8, 2001 03:40 PM ]
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morgantown
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:45:20 PM new
I am a satisfied madagency.com customer!
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Empires
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posted on June 8, 2001 03:59:16 PM new
Ask for the merchandise back. Tell him you'll need it to pray for him.  
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cassiescloset
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posted on June 8, 2001 04:04:36 PM new
This is something that happened just today.
A bidder doesn't like item and sends me a nasty email. I simply tell her I will send refund when I receive the item back. That should be good enough.
She continues to send me several more nasty emails calling me a liar, etc.
I search her ME page and discover a link to her husbands ME page. It seems that the husband sells on ebay and guess who has been shill bidding?
I sent info to safeharbor but I doubt anything will be done.
I'm happy that I caught that cheat. I think she wanted a refund plus keep the item.
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rancher24
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posted on June 8, 2001 04:07:05 PM new
Although there are some GREAT ideas here & just thinkin' about doin' any/all of them provides a great deal of satisfaction, I don't think you have to do anything...Anyone who bounces a check for a religious item, well, let's just say that he's messin' with the wrong Guy!
~ Rancher
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redskinfan
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posted on June 8, 2001 04:11:04 PM new
have all his mail forwarded to a stranger
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tomwiii
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posted on June 8, 2001 04:37:34 PM new
I usually opt for the tried and true...
"Fire-Ant & Shatner Treatment"
They always bark at the moon & promise to eat their lima beans & vote Democrat afterwards!
Guaranteed!
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yorequest
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posted on June 8, 2001 04:48:02 PM new
Get yourself a "pen"pal. There are convicts looking for love and diversions via the written word and probably more than one site on-line for obtaining the address of one. Use your foes information to correspond, of course, and give hints that he is not only wealthy, but bent - in a nice way. Make him interesting enough to want to visit, in other words. Then when the pal lets it be known that he's "going to be released next month", write him a nasty letter or three and drop him so hard he hits the ground like a safe.
A bit involved and definitely not for the squemish, but it allows you the opportunity to be the Karmic messenger for two jerks who really deserve each other. 
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traceyg
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posted on June 8, 2001 04:51:29 PM new
All this seems silly over 31.00 and yes I have had it happen to me more then once. What ever you decided to do be careful that it doesn't come back to hit you in your face. I watched a show on cyberstalking last night. One poor girl got killed. She was just looking for a 'friend". She was only 17. YOu may be opening a big can of worms more then you want to handle.
If the guy is "guy is so slick" and you needed to ask how to get back at this guy well then he may be able to out harrass you could get rather messy.
It pissed me off when it happened to me. I told the person what I thought. I dreamed of revenge for about 30 minutes and relized I was letting him my bidder waste more of my valuable time and then just decided it wasn't worth it. It wasn't fair but life general isn't!
Okay now everyone can groan that I am such a party spoiler. They are a lot of nuts on the internet I wouldn't entice one not worth what could happen. If you do anything do it legit like a collection agency.
two years ago we had near here a cyber stalked that was upset about something that went bad throught the internet caught up with the woman. He took her head no kidding he took her head. It was probably one of the most gruesome things I ever heard about. She left a husband behind.
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mrspock
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posted on June 8, 2001 05:01:56 PM new
bottom line probably just better to let it go. all this stuff is fun to fantasize about but anbody who rights a bad check for a rosary holder is probably a little off.
I have a guy that screwed me 4 years ago and I somtimes think about doing these kind of things but personally I wouldn't think it fun unless he knew it was from me and then i am open to payback
in my case the guy is a attorney and I already know he is far better at slime than I could ever hope to be.
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eleanordew
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posted on June 8, 2001 05:05:41 PM new
I am a supporter and happy customer of the M.A.D. Collection Agency:
http://www.madagency.com
El
"The customer may not always be right, but she is always the customer."
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yorequest
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posted on June 8, 2001 05:08:15 PM new
Tis true, let the anger go. It's like what that bearded guy on the mountaintop told me years ago: Allowing bitterness into your heart, is drinking poison and expecting your enemy to die. 
[ edited by yorequest on Jun 8, 2001 05:10 PM ]
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lotsafuzz
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posted on June 8, 2001 05:36:55 PM new
I agree that the police probably won't be of a whole lot of help.
HOWEVER, awhile back I got stuck with a bounced check. I reported it to the cops (in the bidders town). Turns out the gal had been dropping hot checks all across town and so MY check was like the 10th reported. They added my name to the file and they DID *arrest* (handcuffs and all!) the gal.
So, it may be worth the call to the cops. Who knows, you might be the 10th reporter as well!
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capotasto
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posted on June 8, 2001 07:58:00 PM new
$31.00 ?
I screw MYSELF out of more than that every month through my mistakes, stupidity, errors and ignorance!
But I'm learning...
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spudinky
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posted on June 8, 2001 09:34:20 PM new
Isn't there a website where you can have a third party send someone dog doo??
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Valleygirl
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posted on June 8, 2001 10:14:45 PM new
Remember all those postcards that fall out of magazines? Fill out a few with his name on them. If it is a guy, how about Playboy or Penthouse. I bet his wife would love that.
Not my name on ebay.
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Valleygirl
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posted on June 8, 2001 10:33:36 PM new
I have a book in front of me that I bought about 20 years ago, the title is "The Art of Getting Even". Here are a few suggestions:
Place an add in his local paper for a "whole house sale" at 6 a.m. Just knock.
Order pizza to be delivered to his address.
Call objectionable fundraisers and pledge money in his name.
Send a letter to a realtor in his town and say the house is for sale.
Most of the rest of them are either gross or require one to have close contact with the victim.
Not my name on ebay.
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