eSeller004
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posted on June 29, 2001 05:24:37 AM
Gegy is offering FREE listings for all auctions every single day of the year. If they advertise and bring in the buyers eBay's in for some serious deterioration in their listing #s. Consider how sellers really took to yesterdays free listing offer. 
FREE listings and a million $$$ advertising campaign could be a devastating combo! Yahoo had it 1/2 right up til this year.
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thepriest
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posted on June 29, 2001 05:54:25 AM
hi eseller - i've looked at gegy.
I hope - really hope - they can take off...
but, a big BUT - need alot of advertising to start weening buyers from ebay...
as an aside - i've had some nice successes with bargainandhaggle
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eSeller004
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posted on June 29, 2001 06:03:06 AM
Yeah, me too, but Yahoo or Amazon or ePier or Bidville could take off as well with a large million $$$ ad campaign. But either they don't have the resources (Bidville and ePier) or they don't have the vision to do it (Amazon and Yahoo).
Bargainandhaggle is a unique up and comer, but they just raised final value fees across the board which go into effect in July. Still no listing fees. Guess they had to do it in order to afford to pay expenses and advertise.
[ edited by eSeller004 on Jun 29, 2001 06:03 AM ]
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yumacoot
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posted on June 29, 2001 07:09:28 AM
I just signed up to beta test....they say that the majority of their budget is going to advertising.....magazines, newspapers, etc. We'll see. Looks like it could give Ebay a run for their money though!
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litlux
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posted on June 29, 2001 09:06:40 AM
Yeah, right.
Free ads on a site that is not even up and running and has no customers doesn't sound like a solution to me.
But I could be wrong.
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gs4
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posted on June 29, 2001 09:14:39 AM
Its hard to take this site with those god ugly green guys, they remind me of a road kill.
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reston_ray
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posted on June 29, 2001 09:21:18 AM
This is shameless promotion of an eBay alternative.
I love it.
After the FLD listings have run their course I hope people will consider doing a "cut and paste" of unsold items to one or more of the new or existing site.
It will take little extra work, it will help build the broader marketplace and it might even prove profitable.
"Help Make eBay #2" (by making US #1)
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CleverGirl
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posted on June 29, 2001 09:22:47 AM
[QUOTE]but, a big BUT - need alot of advertising to start weening buyers from ebay...
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Ahhh, but you see, they're more clever than that.  They've got some marketing strategies up their sleeves to attract buyers who have nothing to do with, maybe even never heard of, ebay.
I think the discussion on their marketing plan is in the transcript of the live chat held the other night. Go over to the Gegy forum -- there's a thread with a questin about the transcript and the link's in there.
CG
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thepriest
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posted on June 29, 2001 10:17:57 AM
i've begun to notice a small, yet consistent, migration of buyers to other sites...
they get their feet wet on eBay - maybe incur some frustrations and begin to try others...
has anyone else noticed the same?
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mballai
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posted on June 29, 2001 10:23:15 AM
I can't even get a pageview on Bidville much less a bid even though I've bought there.
I think you can get some biz anywhere, but the volume still is in favor of feeBay.
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katiyana
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posted on June 29, 2001 10:44:02 AM
gegy - so no listing fees, how about FVF fees? I'm very intested in checking this one out.
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furkidmom
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posted on June 29, 2001 11:32:58 AM
I was there and I love the format. I am very certainly going to be doing some listings there with some of my good stuff, because Ihave multiples of them. No more eggs all in one basket. I am getting tired of omelets!
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kittykittykitty
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posted on June 29, 2001 12:59:34 PM
cg,
you mean there are actual people who've never heard of ebay?
After the FLD listings have run their course I hope people will consider doing a "cut and paste" of unsold items to one or more of the new or existing site.
that's a good idea! i think i'll do it.
i hope gegy makes it, too. i think the name is a mistake, and didn't like the green guy any more than most of you. alternative sites can attract sellers okay but offering listings for less fees. that addresses one of our needs (an equally important one being buyers). but i really do wonder what needs of buyers a new site can offer. i liked ray's idea of a really good search engine for all the sites, because that does address the needs of buyers - finding more of what you do want (less of what you don't!) and for the price you want.
kittyx3
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revvassago
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posted on June 29, 2001 02:36:17 PM
Looks like it could give Ebay a run for their money though!
Yup, and Linux is keeping Bill Gates up at night with worry.
Nobody is going to kill the giant. Certainly not an ugly green guy.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on June 29, 2001 02:48:06 PM
Not that I believe gegy is going to be the one to take on eBay or anything, but I can't help but find it interesting that people believe that...
Nobody is going to kill the giant.
Why should eBay be immune to the fate of numerous other companies (particularly computer related and internet companies) which dominated their markets at one time, but were not able to hold on to their success?
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DrTrooth
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posted on June 29, 2001 03:21:31 PM
Hello
I usually ask this question each time that I see that the Moderators are too busy with their duties to read all the threads.
What does the flacking of this [and any other competitive sites] have to do with "The Ebay Outlook"?
Other than pumping the # of threads I cannot see that it does.
Dr. Trooth
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ashlandtrader
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posted on June 29, 2001 03:33:04 PM
Just have to say that I see this as having a lot to do with ebay. Nost of us ebay sellers are watching for other sites to sell on and we do appreciate the info.
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dman3
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posted on June 29, 2001 03:38:06 PM
It all has to do with Ebay and how its users are becomeing more and more tired of the rule changes and incressed costs flooded categories and lower sales.
it time for new blood in the online auction world Competition for ebay if for no other reason before it get the microsoft monoploy virus.
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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twinsoft
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posted on June 29, 2001 03:47:18 PM
What's up with that green guy, eh?
I think it's scaring my kids.
I don't trust any company that throws around lots of money. They're going to have to make up those advertising dollars, and I expect eventually their fees will be equivalent to eBay. Still, any competition can only improve the marketplace. Best of luck, but don't expect any different treatment at Gegy than at eBay.
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Internet Pioneers
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capotasto
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posted on June 29, 2001 06:09:50 PM
And what's up with that black cat, eh? It's scaring ME!
"Ahhh, but you see, they're more clever than that. They've got some marketing strategies up their sleeves to attract buyers who have nothing to do with, maybe even never heard of, ebay."
Up their sleeves? Gee, that's a good place for a marketing strategy.
And why don't they start advertising NOW?
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revvassago
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posted on June 29, 2001 07:07:26 PM
Why should eBay be immune to the fate of numerous other companies (particularly computer related and internet companies) which dominated their markets at one time, but were not able to hold on to their success?
ONE HUGE DIFFERENCE: eBay is showing a profit, where others just lost money.
You may not like it, but it's the truth. (I don't like it either)
nuff said.
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CleverGirl
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posted on June 29, 2001 07:21:32 PM
Best of luck, but don't expect any different treatment at Gegy than at eBay.
No? There's already a history of "different treatment" at Gegy. But don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. check out the discussions WITH Gegy representatives on the OAUA forums and Gegy forums.
[i]Up their sleeves? Gee, that's a good place for a marketing strategy.
And why don't they start advertising NOW?[/i]
What silly comments. I pointed you in the direction to "read all about it." If you choose not to, your snide remarks have little credibility. Taking a figurative saying as literal is pretty silly too.
Besides, how do you know they're not advertising now? You don't. Neither do I.
But I seriously doubt they are -- because they're not OPEN yet. Unless you want a teaser ad campaign (probably not the best use of ad dollars in this case), it would be foolish, not to mention wasteful, to advertise before anybody can even access the site!
Beta testing starts tomorrow for 2 weeks. Then, as I recall, there's a week scheduled for doing all the stuff beta testing reveals should be done, and then launch. I don't recall the projected launch date, but it's July.
CG
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on June 29, 2001 10:01:44 PM
ONE HUGE DIFFERENCE: eBay is showing a profit, where others just lost money.
No other comany has made money using the internet? Really?
The fact that they may be showing a profit today is no guarantee that they will be doing the same in 5 years (or next year, for that matter).
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thepriest
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posted on June 30, 2001 10:23:33 AM
interesting
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revvassago
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posted on June 30, 2001 10:47:09 AM
Name me one other internet-only company that has shown a profit - let alone as much of a profit as our good friend eBay.
Don't get me wrong. I would love to see a real eBay alternative, but I don't believe it will happen. The buyers don't see the fees we sellers pay, and therefore have no reason to want to leave.
It ain't the bidders crying for "an eBay alternative". It's the sellers! What is going to happen with Gegy is you are going to see some sellers list a few items that won't sell on eBay over there. If the bidders wouldn't buy them on eBay, why would the buy them on Gegy? Other than the fact that you don't have 5,000,000 plus auctions running, and can get your item seen better there.
eBay is a giant - they have become too big for their britches in many ways. However, I think they have a firm grasp on the online auction market, and will never be brought down. The only thing that will kill eBay is if the online auction market dries up completely.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on June 30, 2001 11:02:46 AM
I was not talking about "internet only companies"- I said "companies that used the internet". There is a difference.
You seem to be saying:
eBay is showing a profit.
so
Nobody is going to kill the giant.
I am saying that I believe, although the first comment may be true, it does not necessarily follow that the second is also true.
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thepriest
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posted on June 30, 2001 11:33:34 AM
reswaggo makes some good points...
but, just as us sellers become accustomed to eBay and we feel comfortable, WE begin to explore other avenues. Put our toes in.
Likewise, I've noticed buyers starting to also reach a confidence level and begin migrating to other places.
I think time will bring us another auction venue - perhaps not as big as eBay, but enough to keep some bread on the table for everyone....?????????
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