skeetypete
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posted on July 11, 2001 01:38:04 PM
OHHH man am i ever po'd..........i had an item listed for 7 days , reserve of $225, buy it now for $245.......1 day left and i was near the reserve, i know i would havbe reached because this item has been selling for $240 to $260 consistently for the past 30 days.......well i just got a notice of a buy it now....great i thought..well 3 minutes later an email from the bidder/loser.......he claims his grandson made the bid and he was sorry......well that sounds like crap because why would you give the little **** his password........he hasn't won an auction since march 99..........whay a jerk..........ok thanks, i got it out but i definetly don't feel better...............................................ebay needs to address this type thing, i now have to relist, etc. how or what they should do i do not know...........MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
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gs4
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posted on July 11, 2001 01:48:53 PM
Relist, neg them , move on. File for your fees.
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skeetypete
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posted on July 11, 2001 01:54:46 PM
of course i will,i have already left the neg because i just check the jerks history and 8 minutes after he did a buy it now on me he did a buy it now for the same item with a price 20 bucks less.his response to one of my emails was "if your finances are that bad and you need the money now i feel sorry for you"..........ohhh man!!!!!!!!!
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peiklk
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posted on July 11, 2001 01:56:09 PM
Sounds like a SafeHarbor filing to me.
Get the guy good!!!
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quickdraw29
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posted on July 11, 2001 01:57:13 PM
The problem will continue because ebay profits by keeping the listing fee and reserve fee even in cases such as this.
As for the loser buyer, just accept that it can work in your favor sometimes too. Take an impulse buyer who bids too high and pays, makes up for ther impulse buyers who don't pay.
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gs4
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posted on July 11, 2001 01:58:25 PM
The world is full of" winners", lets hope they do this to a couple of more sellers, then they will be gone.
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skeetypete
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posted on July 11, 2001 02:03:37 PM
quickdraw29
there is no such thing as a bidder who bids too high. it's an auction and the bidder puts the value on the item and his final bid is that value to him. so there is no way to make up the money except relisitng.....NOTHING MAKES UP FOR A DEADBEAT.....(capitalized for emphasis not for yelling)
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ashlandtrader
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posted on July 11, 2001 02:15:29 PM
How frustrating! You can also block him and you can send him a note CC safeharbor letting them know not to bid on any of your other auctions. Doesn't make up for it though and I am sorry someone did that to you.
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sweetboo
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posted on July 11, 2001 02:29:10 PM
What a terrible title for this thread. Ebay is FULL of GREAT PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY...yes you get some idiots but to say it is full is a bit extreme. I have 1.4% deadbeats and that is it. Move on...
 Humor isn't just a joke now and then...it is a basic survival tool 
There's no danger of developing eyestrain from looking at the bright side of things!
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ahc3
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posted on July 11, 2001 02:32:42 PM
That's right! I've probably had something like 2000 transactions on Ebay. As a buyer, I had 1 really bad one (although after a lot of threats, I've gotten back 80% of my money, very, very long story, and am on the way to 100%)
As a seller, I've had a few problems, nothing major, a couple of dis-satisfied people (I took the items back) and a couple of misdirects
Overall, while there are a few annoying people, it is not ebay specific, they are everywhere. Most everyone I have dealt with are great!
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quickdraw29
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posted on July 11, 2001 02:54:34 PM
"There is no such thing as a bidder who bids too high."
Oh really, try telling that to someone who buys a stock at $100 then watches it as it drops down below its book value at $12.
What you meant to say is that value means different things to different people at different times. A person paying $20 for an apple during an apple shortage is paying a fair value at that time, but admit that paying $20 for an apple is still high even if you are starving!
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skeetypete
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posted on July 11, 2001 03:14:16 PM
quickdraw99
no i meant to say just what i said........i think a stock comparrison is like comparing apples and watermelons and doesn't make much sense in this case
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quickdraw29
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posted on July 11, 2001 03:36:02 PM
Well then you make absolutely no sense. In my early ebay days I did pay too much on a few items, and although my illusions may have made me feel like I was not bidding too much, it was too high, and on two occasions I knew right after I won but I paid anyway.
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Capriole
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posted on July 11, 2001 03:50:11 PM
skeetypete I feel your pain. Nothing is worse than a moron who decides to "price compare" by bidding.
File your fees and report his sorry A$$ to safeharbor.
And as a bidder I hate these b@$!@*&$ too, because they drive up prices and then flake.
GRRRR.
I am not so sure about negging though...my turnover is so low a neg would sit there for weeks.
I know I know!!!
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breinhold
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posted on July 11, 2001 06:12:07 PM
dont pull the trigger on the neg yet. get your fees back. you have plenty of time to neg. if you have low turn over you will be shooting yourself in the foot.
neg him later when its more healthy for you.
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on July 11, 2001 07:18:24 PM
This is definately one for Safeharbor. Relist and email the former bidders that it is on once again. Maybe they will be happy to have a chance to bid again!
If you use the Relist This Item feature the old auction will have a notation at the top that says that the item is relisted and it will take you right to it. Hopefully the auction wasn't set to end yet. Maybe you can still catch your snipers.
BECKY
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gravid
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posted on July 11, 2001 07:52:24 PM
This makes me aware of the lack of an effective wrap for so many items.
I am going to experimint with spraying a hard resin shell on the outside of a foam box that could be used as a mailer with low weight and ability to support a huge crush weight.
They will have self adhesive closure to discourage re-use.
If I can make them strong and cheap the market is huge.
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skeetypete
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posted on July 11, 2001 07:55:38 PM
breinhold......maybe i am in a fog but please explain how i can hurt myself and why i should file for fvf first???? i will not be protected from a retalitory neg by waiting....help me see what you mean
[ edited by skeetypete on Jul 11, 2001 08:44 PM ]
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skeetypete
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posted on July 12, 2001 05:36:17 AM
bumping and waiting for an answer to question posed directly above
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JMHO2
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posted on July 12, 2001 06:23:43 AM
Maybe I'm dense or didn't read the complaint correctly. Please note the poster originally said:
[quote]i had an item listed for 7 days , reserve of $225, buy it now for $245.......1 day left and i was near the reserve, i know i would havbe reached because this item has been selling for $240 to $260 consistently for the past 30 days.......well i just got a notice of a buy it now..[/quote]
This can't be true, as a matter of fact, it's impossible. When someone bids (which obviously is what happened to be near the reserve with one day left), the buy it now price goes away. How could anyone use that feature if he had bids that almost met the reserve?
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mar30
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posted on July 12, 2001 06:28:13 AM
I think they changed the BIN thing a little while back. Unless I'm mistaken, I think now the BIN price stays visible until the reserve is met.
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kiawok
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posted on July 12, 2001 06:31:28 AM
If the first buyer bids on your
item the Buy It Now price
disappears and the item will
sell through the normal auction
process. A "Buy It Now no
longer available" message will
appear at the end of your
listings page.If the auction has a
reserve, the BIN icon and
message will not disappear until
after "reserve" has been met.
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skeetypete
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posted on July 12, 2001 06:33:09 AM
mar30...
you are correct, the reserve of 225 was not met as the current bid was 202 or so, but under the reserve sooooo the buy it now stays until that 225 reserve is met.........
jmho2..so thats how it works and i am correct in my statement as the originator of this thread
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JMHO2
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posted on July 12, 2001 06:39:38 AM
Mar30,
Thank you. I hadn't known because I never use reserves.
For the guy to say his grandson bid, I would suggest to him that he change his password immediately so it doesn't happen again.
I don't think safeharbor would do anything about him. Just file for final value fees.
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JMHO2
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posted on July 12, 2001 06:41:48 AM
Skeetypete,
I made an honest mistake as a poster of this thread. I am so sorry. I hope you're not thinking of me as a liar and loser now.
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skeetypete
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posted on July 12, 2001 11:05:04 AM
jmho2
of coure not, i do not think you are a liar or a loser, but i do think maybe reading the posts a bit more thoroughly might help, no offense intended. it seems you also did not get the fact that there is no grandson involved, it was a bs reason. if you look att he other posts i made ou would see that i stated the jerk bought another one via buy it now 8 minutes after mine, saving himself a whoping 20 bucks.....again no offense intended
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BREINHOLD
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posted on July 13, 2001 11:16:35 AM
I answered your question on other link .
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JMHO2
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posted on July 13, 2001 11:43:47 AM
I read your entire post thoroughly and didn't misunderstand at all. I do read before I comment because to do otherwise makes no sense. However, there are always 3 sides to every story, both sides and the truth. No offense to you of course.
I didn't know that ebay had that rule for reserve auctions, because I don't do reserve auctions. To me they're a waste of money (it's only a dollar). Now that I know, it's even more of an incentive for me never to use reserves.
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skeetypete
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posted on July 13, 2001 01:27:55 PM
well damn that brings up a whole new thread, the pros and cons of reserve auctions........i personally like them for several reasons 1. you get the big ol buck back it the reserve is met 2.it allows you to start the bids at a low price $9.99 and under, thus attracting more potential and actual bidders, and protecting you investment. 2a. i think a high opening bid turns people away while a lower one attracts them and possibly get a bidding frenzy thing it a bidder got in low and convinced himself he had to have it. 3. the reserve keeps the buy it now option open longer because it stays ubntil reserve is meet rather than disappear after the first bid........some fairly good reasons in my eyes.......hmmm i think i will start that thread
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computerboy
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posted on July 13, 2001 01:36:52 PM
Ebay is full of liars and losers
So is Las Vegas..., but it's still a great place to visit..
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