posted on July 17, 2001 10:32:44 PM
As a seller can you please tell me how many Negs do
you need to see on a bidder before you cancel their bid...?
And on the other side of the coin...
As a buyer how many Negs do you need before
you pass on a sellers auction....?
Game Rules:
1)Disregard all comments ,responds and follow ups
2) Need to have auction item is not a matter of life or death
3)Have had transaction with buyer or seller in the passed ..not an issue
posted on July 17, 2001 10:46:10 PM
I would never cancel a bidders bid. I might pray that someone out bids the bidder. I sometimes look at the feedback - more or less a nosey type thing, you know see what and who they have purchased from.
When I have a bidder with a minus feedback that is when I hope someone out bids them or hope that I get paid.
I have a whole lot of new bidders bid on my stuff. They are usually great pay higher prices. At the same time some never answer and never pay. I really pray when I search to see they have bid on 100's of items and owe more money then I make in a month.
posted on July 18, 2001 04:53:19 AM
As a seller, I do NOT cancel bidders bids because of feedback. If they are registered, they can bid on my auctions.
As a buyer, I look at "recent" feedback of the seller. Mostly loking for a "pattern" of problems. Anyone can have a bad transaction now and than.
posted on July 18, 2001 05:43:57 AM
I have cancelled one for a -1 rating.
(one negative and nothing else)
I emailed the bidder first and explained that I was just checking to make sure that the bid was honest and there was no response.
On AOL you can check to see if and when your email was read, if the other person is also on AOL.
(the item was in my worst catagory for non-payers anyway)
As a buyer, I look to see what the sellers negs are for. It's a judgement call.
Since there is nothing that I really NEED to buy, if there is any doubt I don't bid.
(most of the time I'm just trying to spend PP bucks on needless stuff anyway......)
posted on July 18, 2001 05:52:18 AM
I have never cancled a bidders bid and quite honestly I dont check their feedback I would probably cancel a bidder in the overall neg
colum
I do check sellers feedback If there is a neg I am more concerned with their response then the neg themselves I recently won a auction from a seller who had 10 negs they were all for slow shipment I got a great deal and sure enogh It took 4 weeks and three emails from me for him to ship
spock here......
posted on July 18, 2001 06:07:26 AM
I have a -1 winner now. I must admit that I was less than thrilled when this bidder showed up, but I let it ride, and kept myself from contacting them about their intention to pay. I'm hoping that whatever caused them to default on the first auction has been solved.
I'm just going to keep thinking happy thoughts.
And if they default, they'll be -2.
posted on July 18, 2001 06:21:40 AM
As a seller, I won't cancel a bid unless I have emailed the bidder and either not received a response or received an unsatisfactory response. I will send an email if there is overall negative feedback, or a bunch of recent negative feedback.
As a buyer, I never pay attention to the seller's feedback which is probably stupid of me. But I have purchased nearly 900 items and never had a real problem. The categories I frequent are pretty tame as far as NPBs and smarmy sellers.
Gerald
"Oh but it's so hard to live by the rules/I never could and still never do."
posted on July 18, 2001 06:56:13 AM
I haven't cancelled a bid yet. First, I don't generally look at feedback, and I've been lucky enough that (knock on wood) none of my bidders have had a negative number. Second, once your item has a bid, if anyone cancels it, eBay's wonderful "system" deals with the auction as if it's been bid on for revision purposes and for "free relist if sold the second time" option. So why bother? Items with bids attract other bidders.
If I'm having a slow day, or something has gone higher than I expected very early in an auction, I might check feedback. I'd say the only reason I might cancel a bid would be if a bidder's last three feedbacks were negs for non-payment. This would mean that either they were going to be naru'd soon anyway, or that some nice seller gave them too much time to get their fvf's back.
As a buyer, I just can't follow rule 1 of the game. For example, booksellers sometimes get negs because of slow shipping. Duh. Bookrate takes awhile. So if a newbie leaves a neg for that and the seller responds, why wouldn't I buy? A seller that ships priority with a lot of "slow ship" negs, I might be wary of.
Another thing I look at is patterns. Some negs when they first started selling, but none recently. I'll bid. No negs in the beginning, but a bunch in the last six months. I'll pass. "Said item was mint. Cracked and chipped." - Would have to be resolved before I'd bid on that person's pottery. A lot of negs for the same reason - where there's smoke there's fire.
How a seller responds is also an indicator. I once saw a seller respond to a neg with something like, "Absolutely correct! I blew it. My apologies." It was something like shipping the wrong item, and not a pattern with her. I thought that was great. "Problem corrected - we try to please!" as response to 25 negs (just an example) would make me move on.
Sorry to break the rules, jacko, but I don't do it just by numbers.
posted on July 18, 2001 12:37:09 PM
I've only cancelled a couple bids. . .
One was when I saw there was a rash of negatives on a bidder, I checked what she was bidding on, and she was bidding on over 50 (and winning all of them) of Christmas tree wheel lights. I first e-mailed her before cancelling the bid and she said what she did with them was her damn business and I had no reason to e-mail her asking. (I sent something like "I notice you are bidding on auction xxxxxxxx and have won several of these. Do you collect them or have a museum. I'm just curious.) She was naru soon afterwards, but sent me a couple vulgar e-mails after she was naru.
Usually I let someone with bad feedback ride. This is my theory, I can watch and see if they don't get outbid near the end of the auciton, and if they don't, then I can cancel the bid then. Usually they get outbid, and I make more money than if they don't.
posted on July 18, 2001 12:48:31 PM
I have never cancelled a bid - I let them ride, no matter what their feedback looks like. Then again, many of my deadbeat bidders had immaculate feedback by the end of my auction, but shortly afterwards their feedback breaks out in red like a bad case of chicken pox!
As for negs in a seller's feedback - I can't give you a number, but maybe a percentage. Based on raw numbers, I'd probably be hesitant to bid if they have a 5% neg rate. By 10%, I definitely wouldn't bother. That is, of course, taking your conditions into consideration of not actually reading the negs and the responses to them.
posted on July 18, 2001 01:19:06 PM
Haven't cancelled any bids, yet, including a -2 who ended up paying faster than some in the hundreds. Last time I looked, they were in the positive & heading for their first 100.
As a buyer, I look for the quality of the negs versus the actual quantity..unless the quantity is HUGE or a large number coming recent.
I look at both the negs left for the seller AND what they gave the buyer. If I see a lot of retaliation out of a seller because a buyer complains, then I pass. Sometimes negs are deserved & those who refuse to recognize that aren't someone I want to be in a business arrangement with.
posted on July 18, 2001 01:21:13 PM
I never check a buyers feedback. Did have a -1 buyer bid on an auction, can't help knowing that when it's looking you right in the face every time you check the auction. Checked the feedback, which read like the seller was a little flakey, so I let it go. Kept hoping they would get out bid. Ended up high bidder at $11.00 for a magazine, but they paid right away with PayPal. I was happy to give them the feedback to put them at zero again. You just cannot tell who the deadbeats are going to be. I have never had a deadbeat with under 10 feedback. Never had a deadbeat on an AOL or Hotmail address. Mine all seem to be in the 20 - 50 feedback range on extremely obscure ISP's that I never heard of.
posted on July 18, 2001 01:23:13 PM
I've never cancelled a bidder, and i really wouldn't know if they had 1 neg or 50 unless their overall # beside their id was a neg. number and i noticed when the auction closed. I simply never look. From reading this board over the last year or more, it appears that lots of people look at every bid on every auction they run... where does everyone find the time? Most of the time I never look at mine til the auction closes, except for the info on my My eBay page, which is what comes up when i log onto the net.
posted on July 18, 2001 09:33:27 PM
I've cancelled bids for people whose overall
feedback rating is negative, and the negs are for non-payment. Pretty easy to read the pattern there...
