lowprofile
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posted on August 20, 2001 10:04:16 PM
Well they are at it again.
USPS was caught selling fake oakleys 3 times and they were still allowed to sell...no suspension...I just nailed them again selling fake Gucci Sunglasses and yet agian they still are not suspended...Ebay;s double Standards suck!!!
Thank you for notifying us about these counterfeit Gucci products being
sold on e-Bay. Gucci does not authorize the sale of it's products or name
on the internet by unauthorized re-sellers. If you wish to be confident in
buying genuine Gucci products I recommend that you shop at either a Gucci
store, or a reputable luxury department store.
We are carefully monitoring any infringers. Any Internet related actions
taken without our authorization may result in legal action.
I am truly sorry that you were led to believe that these were genuine Gucci
products. If you see any other Gucci products being sold on e-Bay, please
take caution.
Once again, thank you for your concern.
Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX
Gucci Group e-Business Division
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loosecannon
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posted on August 20, 2001 10:20:05 PM
Maybe this is not the right way to look at it, but it still rubs me the wrong way that the USPS is selling lost goods on ebay.
The PO makes money on us eBay sellers being in business (I'm pretty sure I give the Post Office in my small town more business than anyone else here does), then they collect all of this stuff that they've already gotten paid to deliver (yes, I know that the packages lose the address or it otherwise can't be delivered) and then turn around and compete with me and you for sales.
They ought to hold public auctions on this stuff instead of selling it on ebay. We're paying tax dollars to the Gov't for Postal employees to be listing auctions? Come on.
[ edited by loosecannon on Aug 20, 2001 10:22 PM ]
[ edited by loosecannon on Aug 20, 2001 10:24 PM ]
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capriole
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posted on August 20, 2001 10:25:11 PM
I'm the public, I've bought stuff at their auctions.
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sparkz
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posted on August 20, 2001 10:56:34 PM
I'm the taxpayer and I'm pissed off.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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ubiedaman
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posted on August 20, 2001 11:31:39 PM
Not to take the "Bad Guys" side, but ois it possible that USPS has asked for rights to sell Oakley, Gucci, etal. from the owners of said rights?
Just a thought...
Keith
I assume full responsibility for my actions, except
the ones that are someone else's fault.
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skeetypete
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posted on August 21, 2001 05:35:18 AM
ubiedaman
they may very well be authorized to sell gucci, oakley etc, if they are real........but selling FAKES is a completely different thing. no one has permission to sell FAKES
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vogeldanl
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posted on August 21, 2001 05:52:58 AM
Does USPS use UPS to ship auction items?
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REAMOND
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posted on August 21, 2001 07:39:45 AM
Any small seller would have been permanently banned from eBay after being caught selling fakes 3 times.
Part of the reason big outfits escape liability is that they are BIG. They can blame "oversights" on this department or that, or on an employee. The mind set is 'why punish the whole organization for a mistake made by a part of it'. Of course, the other reason is that eBay will not forgo the revenue from suspending such a large customer.
What small sellers need to do is act like a large corporation. If eBay sends you a TOS warning, reply that you have forwarded the email to the department responsible for that function.
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doninpa
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posted on August 21, 2001 08:18:00 AM
I bought a lot of videos from them, and in the lot was a couple Hannibal videos, illegal of course since the video was not released when I got the lot.
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REAMOND
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posted on August 21, 2001 09:11:51 AM
Instead of notifying eBay, call the Postal Inspection Service. That would be really interesting since the USPS is shipping illegal goods through the US mails.
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loggia
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posted on August 21, 2001 09:23:51 AM
Great idea!
Lowprofile, did you write eBay and ask them to explain how USPS can continually violate the rules and not be suspended?
- Loggia
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lowprofile
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posted on August 21, 2001 09:47:56 AM
I did ...ebay did not answer me...funny thing is about 3 days after I emailed them. they cancelled a couple of my auctions due to a paypal logo been too big...they said if i did it again..I would risk been suspended.
Go Figure!
What community...
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loggia
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posted on August 21, 2001 02:19:50 PM
Someone who is brave enough should run duplicate auctions of the USPS violations, get suspended and then ask eBay to attempt to explain the contradiction.
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outoftheblue
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posted on August 21, 2001 03:04:32 PM
lowprofile
If it happens again contact the makers of the real item and let them handle it. That's what the VERO program is for.
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[email protected]/
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Crystalline_Sliver
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posted on August 21, 2001 03:18:13 PM
This kinda reminds me of a bumper sticker I once saw:
Don't Steal. The Goverment doesn't like competiton.
After all, the USPS is a Goverment Entity...much like Amtrak...
:\\\\\\\"Crystalline Sliver cannot be the target of spells or abilities.
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lowprofile
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posted on August 21, 2001 03:59:15 PM
outoftheblue -
I did contact the Vero's fopr Oakley and Gucci
Oakley ended the auctions and after the third time they emailed me and told be they were going to request Ebay mark the account for suspension...of course Ebay did not suspend them.
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loggia
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posted on August 21, 2001 10:22:27 PM
I guess I'd like to write eBay and ask them "what incentive does USPS have to not sell fakes, since they cannot be suspended for doing so?"
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