eastwest
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:20:15 PM
I have made a program that you can add to your auctions to prevent sniping, but yet alow customers to continue to bid manually up to the last minute....Do you think there would be a market for it
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kiawok
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:21:58 PM
Probably, there's usually at least one dunce in every crowd.
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eastwest
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:23:33 PM
I want feedback ...would OTHERs sellers . Use this or forget it???
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kiawok
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:25:02 PM
That was my feedback, only a DUNCE would use such a program.
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dman3
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:26:20 PM
There is a market for everything so I would say yes there are buyers who would use a program like this I have no doubt..
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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kiawok
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:29:18 PM
He's asking about SELLERS, buyers would have no choice.
BTW eastwest, you might want to take a closer look at this portion of the eBay User Agreement?
7.Access and Interference.
You agree that you will not use any device, software or routine to bypass our robot exclusion headers, or to interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the eBay site or any auction being conducted on our site.
It can be found here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-user.html
[ edited by kiawok on Sep 7, 2001 09:30 PM ]
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humber2
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:35:29 PM
It's called Close your Auction Early
I thought eBay banned guns and other things to prevent sellers shooting themselves in the foot............
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wbbell
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:36:54 PM
I'd guess that nearly every seller is very interested in having their auctions sniped.
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outoftheblue
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posted on September 7, 2001 09:38:58 PM
>>"I have made a program that you can add to your auctions to prevent sniping"<<
Why would you want to do that?
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RainyBear
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posted on September 7, 2001 10:05:22 PM
I always snipe manually. It's more sportsmanlike, and much more of a rush.
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uaru
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posted on September 7, 2001 10:05:55 PM
Why would a seller want to use something like that? Can you offer one reason?
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commentary
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posted on September 7, 2001 10:09:21 PM
How can your program decipher a robot snipe versus a last second bid?
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sparkz
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posted on September 7, 2001 10:09:24 PM
You'll never find a seller who would buy it. However, if you could rewrite it to ATTRACT snipers, you'll get rich!!!
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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yeager
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posted on September 7, 2001 11:51:42 PM
I agree with RainyBear,
The old fashioned method of sniping if fun and starts the heart pounding excitment. Its sort of like being at the horse races. It doesn't matter how it starts, or how it going in the middle of the race. The only thing that matters is what happens in the last few seconds.
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professorhiggins
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posted on September 8, 2001 02:32:07 AM
FYI, I'm also working on a program which will
seek out and destroy deadbeats. It's a little messy and shouldn't be used by the kiddies. Ebay may object of course because it would probably lower their base of registered users by about 25% Another problem is that its an automated system which means that once it is activated their is no turning back.
It's quite
possible that it would have trouble differentiating between a deadbeat and a
person who has a legitimate reason for not paying. But, as we all know, business is
business.
I am not alone. I have already spoken to
the Godfather who has allowed me to borrow
his weapons of mass destruction with which
to wage my Holy War. Does anyone see a
market for this program?
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newguy
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posted on September 8, 2001 06:04:31 AM
How about a TROLL detection program?
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camachinist
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posted on September 8, 2001 07:03:56 AM
newguy
I love snipers and sniping as long as no firearms are involved.
Pat
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eastwest
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posted on September 8, 2001 08:14:43 AM
I created the sniping program because over the last 2 years i have watched sales slide. not over all sales but bids slide. i use to see and get bids threw out the 10 days i listed ...Now it seems most are sniping at the last minute. This prevents the auction from hitting the high prices that once existed. In a snip there becomes a time when bids just do not get in. If you prevent the snip, over time people will start to maually bid. I have over 150 auction going , and this program is running, and has been running for 4 weeks . Guess what about 80% of my auction have bids and they still have days to go. Now i am back to the old days
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Meya
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posted on September 8, 2001 08:27:18 AM
I just don't understand...how can a program that blocks snipping at the last minute increase bids on running auctions? A true snip is when an auction HAS bids and someone bids at the last minute, snatching the item from the current high bidder.
A last minute single bid isn't the same thing.
What am I missing?
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eastwest
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posted on September 8, 2001 08:31:46 AM
Well that what i have been getting single bids at the last minute . With 30 secoonds left .90% of my auctions with no bids get bids. Now with the program they do not bid at the last second....threw a sniping program
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kiawok
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posted on September 8, 2001 08:32:21 AM
If you prevent the snip, over time people will start to maually bid.
muhahahahahaha
Just when I thought I'd heard it all ........
If you had an auction ending in the next few hours, I'd love to see how your program would stop my last second bid.
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eastwest
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posted on September 8, 2001 08:55:29 AM
I am still working out the bugs right now , i still am getting about 10% snipes coming in. I am still trying to fine as many of the snipe programs out there as possible before i roll it out. I will also be doing some beta tests with other ebays selles. I want ot be able to have precentages to back the program..
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kiara
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posted on September 8, 2001 09:04:53 AM
Eastwest
Do you mention in your auctions that you have this program? How do people know that they have to bid early?
You say that you are getting lots of early bids now. So how do people know about this?
What am I missing here?
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packer
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posted on September 8, 2001 09:14:55 AM
Here is my understanding of the program.
I see an auction I like and want to bid on, but its got 6 days to go. So I put a bid in using my snipe program to snipe in the last seconds, which allows me not to have to be there when it ends.
Eastwest programs rejects the bid.
So if buyer wants it he has to be there at the close and snipe it manually.
Is that correct eastwest?
packer
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dadofstickboy
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posted on September 8, 2001 09:53:23 AM
Just What We Need! A program to put an end to that last minute flurry of bid's!
EastWest: Why don't you use it, and let us know how it increased you sale's or bid's.
Keep in mind that WE as sellers are looking for more bid's not something that would prevent bid's, Last minute or any other kind!
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jrb3
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posted on September 8, 2001 10:06:57 AM
With fewer bids the last thing I would do is block people from bidding.
Am I missing something here?
Is this a matter of priciple?
Why prevent people from bidding. If you feel fewer people bid during the auction and prefer to snipe How will this change anything? Unless you note in your auction you block snipers.
If I read that I certainly wouldn't bid.
When I buy I always snipe with VRANE and I snipe to win
Joe B
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revvassago
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posted on September 8, 2001 10:23:33 AM
If I came upon any sort of auction that had that sort of program, not only would I not bid, but I would report every one of your auctions to eBay for interference with normal operations.
Sounds to me as if eastwest likes starting auctions at a certain price, but won't tolerate them ending at that starting price.
If that is the case, online auctions are the wrong place for you, my friend.
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kiara
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posted on September 8, 2001 10:25:49 AM
I snipe manually. If I did use a snipe program and I was informed that I would have to bid early I would just move on.
There is nothing that I want or need that bad. It would feel like being put on a "block bidder" list.
Sort of like opening your wallet and showing your money before being allowed to shop in a store?
[ edited by kiara on Sep 8, 2001 10:29 AM ]
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packer
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posted on September 8, 2001 10:29:17 AM
I also snipe manually, I've NEVER used a snipe program(I don't trust them).
But...I gotta tell ya, I've gone through some pretty hairy moments to get to my computer in time to do the sniping I want to do.
packer
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soldat2
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posted on September 8, 2001 10:56:35 AM
Once again, I fail to see the logic in pursueing any sort of actions that make it harder for a potential customer to bid.
I (guess) that by eliminating last second bids, you hope to increase the chances of a long, dragged out bidding war in the days before the end.
As a seller, I could care less about when the bids come in, just so they are in before the auction expires.
As a buyer, it takes very little for me to hit the back key. ANYTHING that makes it harder for me increases the chance that I will NOT participate in an auction.
Given ebays current status with infringing sellers, I would be rather scared of the....
"to interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the eBay site or any auction being conducted on our site"
...part.
You could be the next one on here complaining of being NARU'd.
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