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 grdnrq688
 
posted on September 25, 2001 03:06:08 PM
I just managed to get an American Flag centered over my pending auctions but I would like to put "God Bless America" under it in red. I got the wording centered but I can't seem to get it to change to red. I am new to using html so I guess that I just got something mixed up. Any help out there please. Thanx

 
 sandvet
 
posted on September 25, 2001 03:41:03 PM
<FONT COLOR=FF0000>God Bless America</FONT>

 
 sandvet
 
posted on September 25, 2001 03:42:27 PM
Oh, if you want it centered...


<CENTER><FONT COLOR=FF0000>God Bless America</FONT></CENTER>

 
 sadie999
 
posted on September 25, 2001 03:55:11 PM
Also, eBay is pretty forgiving html wise, so if you want to use colors for other things, instead of memorizing or looking up the codes (eg. FF0000), you can use the color on red, cyan, magenta, purple, and black - maybe others.

i.e., <FONT COLOR=red>
 
 arttsupplies
 
posted on September 25, 2001 04:03:15 PM
<p align="center">
<font color="#ff0000">God Bless America</font>
</p>

just to be an advocate for proper coding.

If you're gonna type it out anywayz.

edited it to put in the bright red instead of #cc0000 , a medium red...and get rid of an almost bad word.
[ edited by arttsupplies on Sep 25, 2001 04:31 PM ]
 
 sandvet
 
posted on September 25, 2001 04:17:07 PM
Well, technically Microsoft IE is what is forgiving.

FONT=RED will not be recognized by other browsers.

Some also do not recognize the <P> code either.

Opera, which is growing rapidly in popularity, for instance, would ignore both of these tags.

 
 grdnrq688
 
posted on September 25, 2001 04:50:12 PM
Thank you sandvet....your html worked like a charm. I know it's not much but I feel better putting something in with my listings that shows our pride and solidarity...Thanks again
Deb

 
 arttsupplies
 
posted on September 25, 2001 04:51:37 PM
double post
[ edited by arttsupplies on Sep 25, 2001 04:54 PM ]
 
 arttsupplies
 
posted on September 25, 2001 04:53:25 PM
FONT=RED will not be recognized by other browsers

I don't think anyone said that...I'm thinking they meant:

This

Some also do not recognize the <P> code either

I'm not sure what you meant by that but Opera 5.11 on windoze 98 displayed this perfectly:

<html>
<head>
<title>title</title>
</head>
<body>
<P align="center">
<FONT COLOR=RED>
This is some text
</FONT>
</P>
</body>
</html>

It's the paragraph tag for crissakes.

My post was to validate with html 4.0 transitional...

Now if you wanna talk xhtml 1.0 and css2 that's a different thingy

edited for screw up. and to debunk the COLOR=Red claim for Opera also...

[ edited by arttsupplies on Sep 25, 2001 05:14 PM ]
 
 sandvet
 
posted on September 25, 2001 05:56:18 PM
grdnrq688, you're certainly welcome!

arttsupplies, it says <font color=red>, to be exact, and it does work, but only in IE.

My operating system is Windows ME. I check my auctions in IE, Opera and Netscape. I noticed that the <P> tag was being ignored in Opera 5.12 and made a few HTML changes so they could be viewed correctly in Opera also. This is just my experience.

 
 pat1959
 
posted on September 25, 2001 06:25:27 PM
HI, grdnrq688...

I remeber, when I was new at this, how hard it was to find those HTML and Color Codes. Thanks to other generous AW folks, I have a few locations of those *strange* pieces of language. Here are a few you might find helpful...

COLOR CODES:
http://www.familypcfun.com/ColorHex.htm
http://www.familypcfun.com/ColorHex.htm
http://www.htmlcenter.com/tutorials/tutorials.cfm?id=89
file:///C|/My ZIP Files/makapage/picker/index.htm

HTML:
http://bignosebird.com/tags.shtml

WEB TUTORIALS:
http://www.htmlcenter.com/
http://bignosebird.com/

Hope these help some!

Pat...
 
 capotasto
 
posted on September 25, 2001 07:35:22 PM
"I noticed that the <P> tag was being ignored in Opera 5.12 ..."

What good is a browser that can't recognise a simple paragraph?



 
 grdnrq688
 
posted on September 25, 2001 09:04:44 PM
WOW...Thanks for the info on bignosebird....What a great informational site...Many thanks Pat1959
Deb

 
 pat1959
 
posted on September 25, 2001 10:11:19 PM
You are MOST welcome, grdnrq688!

I wouldn't have had these had other, on AW, shared so openly eith those f us who were seeking.

Pat...
 
 rosiebud
 
posted on September 26, 2001 06:04:47 AM
sandvet
arttsupplies, it says <font color=red>, to be exact, and it does work, but only in IE.

Exactly what versions of browsers are you using to verify this? < font color=red> has worked in Netscape since Netscape 2.x (I can't swear to Netscape 1.x because that was before I started caring what worked in what) AND I just verified that it works in Netscape 4.76.

As far as < p> I really am going to have to redownload Opera because I tested Opera out (after not bothering with it for the past 2 years) and it seemed to perform correctly with the < P> tags. Otherwise the pages I tested it on would have been nothing but a jumbled mess.

Anyhow, I would like to know exactly what browsers you're using and the versions, so that way I can check these things out for myself.



 
 ladyatana
 
posted on September 26, 2001 07:04:19 AM
here is a couple more really good links:

Color Codes and names:
http://schmidel.com/colors.cfm

Great WEb Tutorial site, covers everything
http://www.webmonkey.com

BTW - The name of the color does work in most all browsers. An important thing to do is to put the name in quotes.

Example:
<font face="Arial" color="darkred">God Bless America</font>


Toodles!

Lady Atana

{edited to fix mistyping}




[ edited by ladyatana on Sep 26, 2001 07:06 AM ]
 
 rosiebud
 
posted on September 26, 2001 07:14:52 AM
Ok, cause today's my day off, I decided to experiment with this.

The following is a screen shot (please click the link to see it ~ as I do not wish to slow the loading down of an AW page). The screen shot was taken using Opera 5.12. Anyone can verify the HTML on the page by going to the main page of my hobby site ( http://www.evisione.com ) This is the screen shot:

http://www.evisione.com/aw/operap.jpg

As for the < font color=red> debate, please go to: http://www.evisione.com/aw/test.html. You will be able to see that there are six lines of text there, and if you view source you will see that all of them are written in < font color=red>.

Below are the screen shots to verify that Opera, MSIE, and Netscape all read it that way.

Opera 5.12: http://www.evisione.com/aw/operared.jpg

Netscape 4.76: http://www.evisione.com/aw/netscapered.jpg

MSIE 5.0: http://www.evisione.com/aw/msiered.jpg

The name of the color does work in most all browsers. An important thing to do is to put the name in quotes.

That only applies to older browsers, mostly the 3.x versions and mostly towards using the Hexidecimal codes. It is a good idea, however, to keep your HTML clean and if you use " in one area, to continue doing so through out the pages. But be prepared, if you use it at one end of an URL or any attribute, you MUST use it at the other end as well. (That last rule applies to all browsers and all versions)

 
 ladyatana
 
posted on September 26, 2001 07:35:26 AM
Let me rephrase myself:

Putting quotes around attribute values is the proper format in HTML. Not necessarily "important"

Sorry about that.

HTML is a notoriously loose language. You can get away with much less than perfect syntax. However, in the future, proper syntax may become mandatory. For those of you who are interested, the best place to to keep track of changes in web programming is www.w3c.org

 
 arttsupplies
 
posted on September 26, 2001 09:09:42 AM
Didn't mean to start a purists vs the world argument but I'm into proper coding. If you code by hand it isn't any more hard than doing it the sloppy way.

I would advocate hand coding in a text editor for something as simple as an auction. If you are on a Macintosh BBEdit is about as close to nirvana as you can get. If you need a WYSIWYsortaG editor... I would say Dreamweaver form Macromedia for both platforms.

rosiebud
Thanks for your time consuming tests.

ladyatana
webmonkey.com yup!
and of course w3c.org as you have given

HTML is a notoriously loose language. You can get away with much less than perfect syntax. However, in the future, proper syntax may become mandatory. For those of you who are interested, the best place to to keep track of changes in web programming is www.w3c.org

html is pretty straight forward. The browser's way of interpreting what comes in is what is loose and gives people headaches.

Of course in the future xhtml (based on xml) is not forgiving at all and if implemented right will shake things up quite a bit.

All elements and attributes lowercase.
Close ALL tags except stuff like <br />...changing.
Quotes around ALL attributes.
blah,
etc.

sandvet
I didn't mean anything nasty, I'm just pretty much a purist and know a bit about html & xhtml. I've heard alot of people despise windoze ME... I only soil my hands on a windoze machine here at work. At home its Mac and Linux

I dumb down the auctions at work to html 4.0 transistional but at home it's all html 4.0.1 Strict and xhtml 1.0 transitional (I'm not THAT good with style sheets yet )

.com'ed an .org...
[ edited by arttsupplies on Sep 26, 2001 09:10 AM ]
 
 
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