posted on September 29, 2001 10:01:46 PM new
I too would like to use my auctions for making money to send back east...not that I can spare it because I am struggling like everyone else ~ but because I am so horrified by what they have experienced.
Does any eBay expert out there know if this would be allowed or will it get reported to the eBay police and thrown out. I have had a couple warnings from them already re keyword spamming and unaccepted links so I don't want to risk a suspension. Here is what I would like to write:
"I want to participate with Auctions for America ~ but I don't want to sign up with Billpoint. If you'd like to bid on this item and have the money go to the people back east, pay by PayPal and I will send you a copy of the amount being sent through their system. I am not able to do this on all my auctions, but am doing it on patriotic themed ones."
posted on September 29, 2001 10:30:19 PM new
I would lose the "Auctions for America" referance and say the bid price will be donated to the red cross (or whom ever you choose). I also refuse to use billpoint...
posted on September 29, 2001 11:27:18 PM new
Agreed, "Auctions For America" is a purely eBay creation, and they are quite clear sellers using it have to do it their way.
So just let people know you will be donating to the Red Cross, or the 2 or 3 funds that were set up in the aftermath of the disaster, I'm sure they will be very happy & supportive that you are doing this.
posted on September 30, 2001 12:02:07 AM new
Browsing eBay auctions earlier this evening, I ran across a couple of sellers who included a brief paragraph in their listings stating that a percentage (10 in one, 15 in another) of the closing bid would be forwarded to XXXXX Fund(s).
posted on September 30, 2001 02:02:05 AM new
Thanks to all for responding to my question ~ I will take your suggestions and tips and adjust the wording. Sure is great having a place to come to for instant answers on questions, support, ideas, etc.
Mallary
posted on September 30, 2001 05:43:12 AM new
I ran across an auction a couple of weeks ago, where the seller had a huge box in his auction referring to his participating in Auctions for America (but this was NOT an A4A auction), and that $30.00 would be donated.
The box said:
PLEASE JOIN US IN OUR EFFORTS:
We are "Auction For America" Participants. The purchase of this auction listing will result in a cash donation to the relief effort in the amount of:
$30
Please check out all of our auctions to see which ones donate 100% of proceeds (more added daily)
XXXXXXXXXXXXX GOAL IS $2,500
TOGETHER, WE CAN GET $100 MILLION IN 100 DAYS
I reported it, and they said that there was nothing wrong with the auction.
I was shocked.
Here is the mail I got:
Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to report item #XXXXXXXXXXXXXx.
I have reviewed the information that you have sent in regarding an item
that appeared to violating eBay policy. At this point I do not have
enough evidence to show that the member has violated any eBay rules.
We currently do not have a policy for this situation. Therefore, no
action will be taken at this time.
For more information on our listing guidelines, please visit our policy
page at the following URL:
posted on September 30, 2001 06:51:59 AM new
You just have to love netcops. Even when it is a good thing, somebody feels it is their (though unappointed) job to tell on somebody.
I hope there is a special place in the afterlife for tattle tails.
Edited because even scrabblegod can not type.
[ edited by scrabblegod on Sep 30, 2001 06:53 AM ]
posted on September 30, 2001 07:55:30 AM new
As of this morning, you can donate through Paypal and put a notice on your auction. I just got my notice from paypal. Was wondering exactly what who was paying to whom.
posted on September 30, 2001 08:32:39 AM new
Scrabble:
Yes, I DID report it, because there is NO guarantee that this person is even truly donating their proceeds.
They are riding on the coattails of A4A, and it is wrong. If they asked for a money order written in the name of the charity, it would be different.
I don't report ALL things, but yes, I do report. I also report adult auctions that should be in the adult only section, porn, and inappropriate items.
It is not my self appointed job to tattle on somebody, but I also don't think these scam artists, potential scam artists, and those selling porno where it doesn't belong, should be rewarded for it.
I would also "tattle" on someone who shoplifted in front of me, who burglarized my neighbors home, and who beat his wife. Damn right I would.
posted on September 30, 2001 08:48:54 AM new
How sad...to move through life always looking for and assuming that people are dishonest. You do know, of course, that your donations to most charity organizations are used to pay executive salaries and expenses.
posted on September 30, 2001 08:17:01 PM new
scrabblegod
Not true, in each case a rule or law is being broken. They do hold different penalties but are no different in any case.
Actually Drugs are legal in some Europe countries and right here in the US also so that would make me a busybody cause they are clearly not criminal? I am sure you could probably find some country where kiddy porn is legal also.
I myself have reported and successfully had auctions closed for using the AFA logo. It is a violation to use that logo if it is not a true AFA auction. Clearly a rules violation. Yep I was a busybody also.
Jim
p.s. I have been hearing a lot about monkey porn lately here, I will be going after that too.
posted on October 1, 2001 05:42:42 AM new
fountainhouse,
I don't go looking for the stuff, but if I look up something under "fine art" and see a porno video being sold (happened just last week), I am going to report it.
Trash like that does not belong anywhere BUT the adult section.
Likewise, if I am shopping for something, and see violations such as the A4A symbol being used, I report it. It is not fair for the other sellers who are REALLY donating their goods and shipping.
Only those who are guilty of breaking the rules get huffy at those who report it.
posted on October 1, 2001 10:33:30 AM new
I will be putting up one charity auction a week through ebay. I asked them first if it was okay and they suggested I use AFA but said they would not prohibit me from doing my own auction.(which I did)
On my item description I tell them to send me a check made out to the red cross or if they pay with paypal I will send them the print out when I transfer the funds to red cross.
I am paying shipping.
I fully expect people to complain about this but I don't want to sign up with bill point at this time and had no other way to do this.
posted on October 1, 2001 10:46:49 AM new
net narc, net narc, net narc, net narc, net narc, Say that 5 time really fast. Maybe net narc nancy needs new nickers now.
You know my opinion on this. If it is wrong report it.
I Like to look at the naked fictional women in the bulk silver portion of eBay.
posted on October 1, 2001 10:56:19 AM new
No wonder it takes ebay (or safeharbor) so long to respond to a fraud complaint. I wonder how many of these "rule breaking" emails they get a day?
posted on October 1, 2001 12:58:44 PM newI don't want school age kids getting on Ebay, and ending up looking at porn that is not in the proper category.
The very first thing in eBay's User Agreement is this:
Our services are available only to individuals who can form legally binding contracts under applicable law. Without limiting the foregoing, our services are not available to minors. If you do not qualify, please do not use our services.
I guess it's too much to ask that parents take responsibility for what their kids may or may not see on a site that is intended for use by adults.
posted on October 1, 2001 02:25:08 PM new
mrpotatoheadd
What you are clearly missing is that you must be over 18 to use their services.
ANYONE can browse the site. Anyone at all. It is not an over 18 site to LOOK at. Only to trade in. When you enter www.ebay.com, I don't see a box that says you must be over 18 to enter the site, do you?
And, if items are listed appropriately, Ebay is a pretty safe place to browse.
And, as a parent, I AM taking responsibility.......by reporting those auctions that don't belong ANd supervising my kids while on the 'net.
If I am browsing the Disney site with my kids, I don't expect to see porn.
And, if I am looking in the fine art category on Ebay, I don't expect to see it there, either.
posted on October 1, 2001 02:42:04 PM new
kidsfeet:
"As a parent" You should be sitting right there watching what your kids are doing while they are online and explaining right from wrong to them.
I would never allow my kid online without me there.
posted on October 1, 2001 02:58:03 PM new
Glasshappy:
I AM right there. And, I certainly explain right from wrong, and not ignoring those who break the rules. And, when I am there with them, I do not expect to see porn where it does not belong.
Nude paintings are one thing. I have no problem with those. But, CD's and videos selling "lesbians getting it on" and "college age girls on their knees" is NOT the kind of "art" that belongs anywhere on Ebay BUT in the adult section, where they can sell all of that "art" they please.
Besides, we are getting away from the point here. And, the point is, I will continue to report such infractions.
Mrpotatohead:
Nowhere on the site does it say you must be a registered user to browse it. You are not obligated by their user agreement unless you are registered. You do not have to register to browse it. It does not say you have to, and you are grasping at straws to say otherwise.
Additionally, from your quote directly "Our services are available......" You are not using Ebay's services when merely browsing the site.
[ edited by kidsfeet on Oct 1, 2001 03:01 PM ]
posted on October 1, 2001 03:15:52 PM new
When these "porn" auctions are reported to ebay what happens? How long does it take before any action is taken by ebay?...
posted on October 1, 2001 03:29:48 PM newYou are not using Ebay's services when merely browsing the site.
I guess it depends what the meaning of the word "use" is- to paraphrase a well-known quote by a former president.
Websites and the pages therein are designed with specific functions. Moving your mouse pointer over a particular group of words and clicking the button to enable the site to present you with additional content to view sounds a lot like using the site to me.
