katelu
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posted on January 22, 2002 06:19:42 AM new
I have a person that is high bidder on several of my auctions. Another bidder forwarded the following email to me yesterday that she recieved from the high bidder.
Hi. I am XXXXX. I hate to say this but this is a desperate attempt to make a dream come true. When my great grandmother died my mother sold her entire estate (she was a very wealth women..my grandma) she had
more crest o gold pieces than you could ever imagine. At the time I didn't think
anything of it. But now the only things I have of hers are 2 saucers and 1 cup that are the exact same as this person is selling. I am asking you...PLEASE DO NOT BID SO I CAN HAVE THESE. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
AND SIMPATHY. XXXX
The other bidder did state that she sent his email to ebay. Any ideas as to what I can or should do about this??? Thanks!
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Suzyq
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posted on January 22, 2002 07:26:04 AM new
This is a different approach! You can cancel all of the bids that this person placed on your auctions and then block their user ID from bidding again on any of your auctions. Just go to the "buyer/seller management" site. I would also send this email to Ebays Safe Harbor. I hope this helps.
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sulyn1950
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posted on January 22, 2002 07:47:05 AM new
Wow! That's pretty gutsy!!! Not to mention dirty and underhanded......
Brings me to a question I have asked before, but nobody ever answered.
How do you get the emails of other bidders???
I thought eBay changed their system to prevent this sort of thing and that the only person who could get the email addys now were the sellers at the end of the auctions.
It's driving me crazy trying to figure it out, so pleaaaze someone have mercy on me and explain how you get the email address of other bidders.
Thanks!
Sulyn
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Suzyq
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posted on January 22, 2002 08:03:15 AM new
Sulyn --- This seller was sent that email from another bidder on her auction. You probably thought it would be a nice idea if the seller was aware of the email that this person was sending to other bidders. Like a "heads up" notice. -
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Suzyq
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posted on January 22, 2002 08:05:12 AM new
Correction to that last email ---- She (not you) the other bidder thought it would be nice to let the seller know what was being sent out to her bidders. Suzyq
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kahml
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posted on January 22, 2002 08:55:44 AM new
Actually, eBay makes it very easy...
The thing is, you don't get to see the e-mail id - but eBay will route the e-mail message.
1. Go to someone's auction - it doesn't need to be active.
2. Click on the bid history.
3. Click on an id.
eBay displays the "Contact an eBay Member form." The canned subject is: Question from eBay Member
They then state:
o xxyyzzz will receive an email from eBay with your email address displayed as the return address so that he/she can contact you.
o A note from eBay will be attached at the bottom of your email.
Any other infractions based on this e-mail is probably covered in the user agreement/ToS
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ASKDARUMA
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posted on January 22, 2002 09:08:05 AM new
ebay is a person to person auction site,a personal plea for personal reason is not a crime.this person could have a limited budget to bid on this item she really wants.
or may be she is a reseller trying to pay the lowest price possible.
in commercial auction,like land or arts,it is not unusal that bidders get together and bid low and then go somewhere else and bid among themselves again.
i would not go to extreme to block him/her or report to ebay,i would just email her and ask her this is not allowed on ebay,it is called interrupting interfering ebay activities and she could be suspended.
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tomyou
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posted on January 22, 2002 09:09:48 AM new
Best way to handle it is to cancel the bid and block this bidder. then forward the reason to safeharbor. Sned a short friendly note to the seller letting them know of the action you have taken due to auction interference. Odds are he will soon be naru'd. Remember to be professional in your e-mail and don't let your emotions into it.
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kiara
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posted on January 22, 2002 09:34:42 AM new
I have mixed feelings about this. Is the bidder a newbie? Maybe she hasn't figured out how to do a search yet and thinks these are the only items available to her? Maybe she will want them so much she will pay much more than anyone else and if you cancel her bid you will lose out.
On the other hand, maybe the people she contacted will feel sorry for her and not bid anymore which will keep the ending price lower.
Or maybe she does this all the time? How many feedback does she have? She should be informed about auction interference though and about how auctions really work.
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katelu
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posted on January 22, 2002 09:42:29 AM new
This bidder has only 6 feedback. All from selling NOT buying. This person has bids on over 600.00 worth of items right now,(not including my auctions) an about me page that states that he is an antique dealer. Somone else has outbid him on most of the auctions this morning.
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professorhiggins
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posted on January 22, 2002 10:04:22 AM new
Personally, I would cancel his bids and forward the e-mail to safe harbor. If it is his first offense, safe harbor may just warn him. In any case, it saves you the possibility of getting in a nasty e-mail fight with this guy. Let safe harbor handle it.
Are the items that he is selling similar to yours?
I might suspect that he is just a reseller trying to save a buck.
Bottom line, he should know better.
If it is something he wants that badly, he should be willing to bid legitimately and make
financial choices if need be.
If I want to go out for dinner and a movie and can only afford to do one.....I make a
choice.
I would like to buy my mother a sports car, but I can only afford to pay $7000.
Somehow I think that telling the car dealer a good sob story is not going to make him lower the price 30-40,000.
If you have more of this item, you could always offer to sell one to him at a fixed price. If you want to be nice, lower your profit margin, but DO NOT take a loss.
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kiara
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posted on January 22, 2002 10:07:34 AM new
I think this guy pretty well knows how an auction works and he already has some bid retractions.
No "simpathy" (sympathy) from me and I would most likely cancel his bid and report him to ebay.
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katelu
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posted on January 22, 2002 10:10:11 AM new
Thanks professorhiggins, He is not selling the same things that I am.
He has asked me several times via email to end these auctions so he can replace his grandmother's set. His offer was much less than I can take for this set. On top of that he wanted me to pay the shipping! I believe that he is wanting someting for nothing (or nearly nothing) and wants people to feel sorry for him in order get it.
I would think that this would be auction interference. Would it be???
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mrfoxy76
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posted on January 22, 2002 10:27:20 AM new
block the bidder and do not let them bid again
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Valleygirl
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posted on January 22, 2002 01:11:19 PM new
I once knew two people who were constantly bidding against each other for the same things. They introduced themselves and agreed to take turns bidding. Both completed their sets.
Not my name on ebay.
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rarriffle
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posted on January 22, 2002 01:45:50 PM new
If this person is an antique dealer, he has a buyer for this set and just wants to cut your throat to get it as cheaply as possible.
Block him as a bidder and alert ebay to what he is doing. I would not email him directly at all. This type of dealer is the worst possible type of pond scum.
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sulyn1950
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posted on January 22, 2002 04:52:00 PM new
Thank you kahml! I learn something new everyday on AW....
I think he's trying to work your bidders to get what he wants since he didn't get what he wanted from you. It takes a lot of nerve to ask someone to stop an auction, sell to them AND pay the shipping to boot. It would seem he has absolutely no scruples! I agree with those that say cancel his bid and block him and notify Safeharbor.
Not only is he interferring with your auctions, but he tried to get you to "break" eBay's TOS by selling off-line to him. That may get eBay's attention more than his contacting your other bidders. I don't think eBay likes anyone messing around with their potential FVFs! 
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