yeahwell
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posted on February 5, 2002 03:37:24 PM
I am an EBAY powerseller, although I've never quite understood the advantages to this. However, last week, I got an email from SAFEHARBOR at ebay stating ", that the manner in which the PowerSeller logo is being displayed in your auctions, is inconsistent with the PowerSeller Terms and Conditions.
In accordance to Section 3.3 of the eBay PowerSeller agreement, we require that you actively link the PowerSeller Logo to the PowerSellers Program Information page on eBay. Therefore, we are sending this friendly notice to request that you properly display the PowerSeller Logo in your future listings. "
My PowerSeller logo was never linked to anything... I usually had it on display so buyers can see I was part of the program. Never got any real advantages from it. Well, now I feel I don't even need to show buyers I'm part of the program... EBAY wants me to LINK the LOGO to themselves!
I say, "@#%@%#^" to them!
anyone have thoughts?
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drbrownauctions
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posted on February 5, 2002 03:42:12 PM
how do you become a powerseller? I'm sure it involves fees...
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BananaSpider
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posted on February 5, 2002 04:43:01 PM
There are no fees but no real benefits either.
Here is some more info on the PowerSeller program.
http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/powersellers.html
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sun818
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posted on February 5, 2002 04:58:54 PM
There is enough clutter with rogue images (i.e. eBay Payments) making it into our auctions. PowerSeller Logo has no perceived advantage in my opinion.
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revvassago
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posted on February 5, 2002 05:25:01 PM
The powerseller logo MUST be linked to the powerseller page on eBay. If the logo is not linked, then you are not complying.
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LaneFamily
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posted on February 6, 2002 07:34:14 AM
yeahwell,
This has been talked about several times on the PowerSeller message boards at eBay. If you need any help the HTML code is posted there.
I know many of you disagree but being a powerseller in my opinion has helped me out. I get quick replies from eBay and Billpoint on issues. I can call them anytime and get a quick response.
Jim
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kyms
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posted on February 6, 2002 08:21:45 AM
What Ebay Powerseller Message Board? I'm a PS and I never heard about a message board...anyone have a link?
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LaneFamily
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:17:46 AM
http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/powersellers.html
Once you log in you will se the Power Seller message Board as the second item.
Jim
[ edited by LaneFamily on Feb 6, 2002 10:20 AM ]
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mballai
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posted on February 6, 2002 10:50:11 AM
I actually see PowerSeller logos as a distinct disadvantage for a bidder.
A. I could care less how much you sell. It's how you care about what you sell that counts to me.
B. If all I am is a notch in your sales belt, why would I want to do business with you?
C. Positive feedback over time means much more than any logo.
D. If it's a small transaction, I'm barely a blip in your database. You probably could care less. Maybe a smaller seller would.
As a seller, if I have to do a certain volume for eBay to care about me, they need a real clue phone: it's the small sellers that make eBay what it is, not the few volume guys. Catering to the big guys means you have already forgotten that they were once small potatoes too.
So why the program at all? A very large lack of perspective it seems to me. Not the large bucks.
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bettylou
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posted on February 7, 2002 07:54:35 PM
Wow, I must have missed this change in the PowerSeller program when it happened.
I'm not waiting for the PS Police Force to put me up against the wall for noncompliance; I'm taking the PowerSeller logo out of my auctions starting now.
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bettylou
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posted on February 7, 2002 09:23:18 PM
I went over to the PS Board using the link Jim posted, but couldn't find the thread about having an actively-linked PS logo.
I did see an awful lot of people who were angrily expressing dissatisfaction with rate hikes, SafeHarbor inaction, etc. It got me to thinking.
During the course of the "Bidder passed 2 bad checks..." thread I came to correspond with many AW members and felt that they were people I would feel safe trading with, if they were selling something I was in the market to buy. I'm sure there are many many more who didn't write to me that would fall into that same category.
At its very heart eBay is just a meeting place, "only a venue".
What if a Web ring were set up, consisting of the home pages of such people? We could shop among ourselves and cut out the middleman entirely. As the ring grew, we could sprout sub-rings for jewelry, clothing, collectibles, books, etc. Ring members could offer discounts to other ring members, if they wished, and that would act as an incentive to more potential members to sign up.
We could spend our money growing our businesses instead of growing eBay.
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callcorp
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posted on February 8, 2002 05:39:15 PM
This is not a change. This has always been a requirement of using the Power Seller Logo. It has been part of the terms of use from Day One. I guess you guys just don't read the things you agree to.
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bettylou
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posted on February 8, 2002 05:45:54 PM
Nope, not true.
I've been a PowerSeller practically since the program began and I can tell you it was NOT a requirement because in the beginning there was no PowerSeller Program Information page. That didn't appear until quite a few months after the PS program started.
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springmoon
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posted on February 8, 2002 07:07:06 PM
bettylou, your suggestion sound like Amway.
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twinsoft
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posted on February 8, 2002 08:33:56 PM
The PowerSeller logo tells bidders:
1) You are a high-volume seller
2) You have a high ratio of positive feedbacks
3) You have been selling on eBay for a good while
That is enough to assure most bidders they are not dealing with a fraud. Of course it is no guarantee, but as I bidder I would worry less about sending money to a PS than to a low/no-feedback seller.
The link back to the PS home page has been a requirement for years. I also got a note like the above, and removed the logo from my listings. No effect on sales. A seller with feedback in the four figures doesn't need a cute icon.
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bettylou
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posted on February 8, 2002 08:58:11 PM
springmoon: Amway? Well, that's certainly a, um, different perspective.
I sell fine jewelry (among other things). Jewelry sellers don't really compete because we rarely have identical items. Say I join up with 19 other eBay jewelry sellers and we start our own Dissatisfied With eBay web ring.
A buyer cycles around the ring and sees 20 different pages of jewelry.
How is that like Amway?
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revvassago
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posted on February 9, 2002 05:36:05 PM
http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/powersellers-tnc.html
3.3 3 When you display the Button pursuant to this Agreement it must be an active link to the eBay PowerSellers page at http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/powersellers.html. The Button may not link to any other page. You may not frame our site, cause the link to create a new browser window (unless such window occupies 100% of the user's screen and appears above all other browser windows), or otherwise cause users to display our site in a distorted fashion.
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bettylou
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posted on February 9, 2002 06:03:30 PM
Right, but I still contend that when I first started using the PS logo the only restriction was (aside from the seller being "qualified" to use it) that you didn't change the size of the logo in any way.
I don't doubt that there are chapter and verse regulations on PowerSellers now.
As was once said about Microsoft, eBay's operating platform is 2,000 lawyers.
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revvassago
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posted on February 9, 2002 07:17:25 PM
This has been in the Terms for at least a year now...
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