posted on July 2, 2002 12:39:54 PM
Haven't been here for awhile! Was there an ending to the whole saga of the armoire that was shipped, then refused. Last I heard they were going to court. I think it was "Daleeric" that started the thread.
posted on July 2, 2002 06:36:09 PM
Yep, unfair justice due to a biased baliff and a old judge who had the "buyer is always right" attitude, and even ignored a major law, where once someone cashes a check that states all transaction is final once check is cashed (I see many people lose because they cash it) but the judge ignored that the crooked buyers cashed the check! I still feel they can file mistrial, but I think the seller decided to move on with their lives.
posted on July 3, 2002 08:11:29 AM
Small claims judges really amaze me. I was sued in small claims for a tv cabinet my husband was to modify for a customer. The customer left it in my shop for 10 years. We had attempted to get the customer to remove it several times and were met with replies of "I will get it when I feel like it". Finally, we gave up. When we thought we were moving out west, we had my inlaws take it with them on their move, as they had stored it for us because we were tired of moving it around and afraid of it getting damaged in the shop.
10 years later the owner finally contacts us and we tell him "yes, we still have it, but it is now 3000 miles away - if you want it, get a shipper to pick it up and deliver it to you". This guy became such a pain in the butt that we had to hire an attorney who stated that he "abandoned it and actually owed us for storing it".
Well, he sued us in small claims court. The judge ordered him to pay for shipping it back, but made us pay him the $150 deposit towards the work that he paid us 10 years before. No compensation for the time we stored it. To make matters worse, we had to go back to the Judge and get him to INSIST in a written order that this guy get the cabinet. 6 Months after the judgment, he STILL had not arranged to pick it up. Were we supposed to store it again for 10 more years? AMAZING!
You know, after 10 years, you would have thought the guy would have thanked us for not throwing it out. I never expected a lawsuit over something "he forgot about".
I feel terrible for the Armoire issue - this world is getting crazier all the time. However, what goes around comes around and I will bet this buyer will "get his".
posted on July 3, 2002 08:26:12 AM
I think the American justice system is seriously flawed. Not just OJ Simpson going free via a corrupt jury system but all the way down to the Judge Judy types that make an instant opinion/judgement when the parties walk through the courtroom doors.
One judge should never be allowed to judge any case, no matter how small. A minimum of three randomly selected judges should always be used. The added costs can be passed on with higher court fees.
posted on July 3, 2002 08:58:08 AM
I now understand why drycleaners put in their 'contracts' that they will sell anything left over 30 days.
As far as higher court fees. We are supposed to have a free justice system where anyone can receive an impartial trial, without regards ability to pay for it. Higher court fees would mean the poor to middle class would not be able to afford to seek justice. As it stands, if you are destitute, court fees will be waived, but the poor to middle class are often the people living paycheck to paycheck, without enough slack to afford the current fees. Higher court costs, sheesh! What Millions are you making on Ebay?
posted on July 3, 2002 09:23:58 AM
You'd rather have Judge Judy make the decision alone? Higher court fees could be replaced with higher amounts on fines. Running a red light could double, drunk driving could double, etc.
