maymaylau
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posted on July 3, 2002 10:58:36 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2118262865
Looks like someone went to the eBay Live convention, got PayPal Damon to autograph a mousepad, and listed it. Funny.
[ edited by maymaylau on Jul 3, 2002 10:59 AM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on July 3, 2002 11:07:49 AM
On the OTWA eBay message boards all of the women posters where asking if Damon was a "hottie" during the Anaheim event. Several answered back that he certainly was. Is a 'PayPal Damon' calendar in the works?
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clarksville
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posted on July 3, 2002 11:09:51 AM
Thank maymaylau for sharing it! It will be interesting to see how high the bid goes!
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Dejapooh
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posted on July 3, 2002 12:14:42 PM
Damon? I would like to see your comments about this... Perhaps a picture too to see if you are a hottie or not (for the benefit of the women online).
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alwaysbroke
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posted on July 3, 2002 01:30:25 PM
Wow. "Paypal - New World Currency"
I never thought of Paypal (or any e-payments) as the New World Currency.
http://www.sparedollar.com/sdGallery/usergallery.asp?uID=2261
http://www.sparedollar.com?ref=2261
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ihula
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posted on July 3, 2002 01:46:27 PM
Hey "Paypal Damon", I too would like to see your comments about this. My husband is a musician and he occasionally sees his CD on ebay. At first he said it made him feel "cheap" and "unwanted" (it didn't sell for much - about $5.00). I'd be curious to see how you feel about this. At least it wasn't picked up at the local Goodwill (my husbands biggest fear about his CD)
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paypaldamon
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posted on July 3, 2002 02:07:42 PM
Hi,
I am actually surprised that anyone would pay anything for me
There was a picture up around here. I don't know what happened to it...I could point you to a link, but I can't post it here (other forums).
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dadofstickboy
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posted on July 3, 2002 02:13:03 PM
Now that you know someone is willing to pay, there will be no more free signature's! RIGHT!
Micheal Jorden: Move over here I come!
[ edited by dadofstickboy on Jul 3, 2002 02:14 PM ]
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kkaaz
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posted on July 3, 2002 03:49:11 PM
From the auction:
Winning Bidder pays $4.00 for shipping to anywhere in the U.S. I only ship in the U.S. I only accept PayPal payments
I bet that is not with online tracking so the buyer can reverse payment after they get the mouse pad and then Damon and Paypal will honor the fraudulent act.
And it does not say must ship to confirmed address so if someone pays with Paypal and asks you to ship the item to their work address, they can keep the pad after they get it and Damon and Paypal will ok the reversal after they get the pad even though it's wrong.
Too bad. I can not buy that because thanks to Damon, Paypal and the fraudulent buyer who got a reversal against me after they got the item, my Paypal account is negative over $350 .
Not so great when it happens to your own items right damon....
It's ok to let buyers pay for item with Paypal funds and then reverse payment after they get the item mailed to them even though that is called mail fraud?
What team are you folks playing for over there at Paypal? Charge me a service fee to let someone fraud me? Owning that mouse pad would be like keeping a piece of paper after getting a paper cut.
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alwaysbroke
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posted on July 3, 2002 03:54:51 PM
damon,
You are a good sport for responding.

http://www.sparedollar.com/sdGallery/usergallery.asp?uID=2261
http://www.sparedollar.com?ref=2261
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paypaldamon
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posted on July 3, 2002 03:55:33 PM
Hi kevkaaz,
Shipping to a confirmed address is a requirement of protection from reversals under our User Agreement (under 'Risk of Reversals', which has been explained more than once.
Why? Because it reduces the probability that you are dealing with someone attemtping to do credit card fraud, bank fraud,buyer fraud, etc.
While I am sorry that you had an issue with the transaction, the issue was entirely caused by an individual you were dealing with. PayPal can't control the behavior of individuals. That is where your discretion comes into play. Checking if the address you are shipping to is confirmed can be done directly on the PayPal web site (by reviewing the transaction details).
Bottom-line: the transaction you had was reversed because you did not comply with Seller Protection. Based on your other posts, it has also become apparent that you received the money back by filing a fraud claim against the party with the USPS.
The issue you dealt with was caused by the buyer.
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kkaaz
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posted on July 3, 2002 04:14:35 PM
Damon
Why do you post such untrue statements?
[Bottom-line: the transaction you had was reversed because you did not comply with Seller Protection. ]
Wrong. The transaction was reversed because the buyer wanted to fraud me using the US mail service and PAYPAL. USPS helped me. Paypal did not. Paypal was rude and unprofessional. They also hung up the phone every single time I asked to speak to a supervisor. Great service...
Paypal processed a fraudulent claim even though it was been proven to be a fraudulent claim with help from USPS.
[Checking if the address you are shipping to is confirmed can be done directly on the Paypal web site (by reviewing the transaction details).]
Another untrue statement. Come on Damon you know what's going on. A buyer can remove their confirmed address off of a payment and it will not show any "confirmed" address.
And your company said I must get a court order before you would tell me the confirmed address. You said if I could not "prove" the address the buyer gave me and the address that is "hidden" on the account, they buyer has a right to the funds back.
I have a signed tracking statement from the buyer that says they got the item at the address requested by them.
That is mail fraud Damon.
Remember what Paypal told me "you are at buyers mercy"
Those are Paypal own words.
The buyer asked for the item to be shipped to where it was and they got the item. Then Paypal gave them their funds back?
That is mail fraud Damon and you know it.
And yes. After I hunted them down, they confessed to the action by sending less then half the amount owed in a money order. You and Paypal have been offer solid proof of fraud and you stand behind them. They confessed to frauding me and Paypal would not do anything about it.
Come on Damon. Paypal is not playing for the right team.
But I would bid on you pad with my Paypal account had you done something to help me or penalize the fraudulent party.
But now I will never ever use your worthless service again.
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rarriffle
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posted on July 4, 2002 04:53:00 AM
kkaaz, I am sorry to butt in here but I am a little confused.
If Paypal initially paid you the money and then reversed it putting you in the red, and you then collected from the buyer with a money order, don't you owe that money back to Paypal? It seems to me you got paid twice?
Is that right or have I missed something?
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kkaaz
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posted on July 4, 2002 10:49:01 AM
rarriffle
I have not been paid twice.
I received one money order for $150 and a outdated / unpaid IOU after I filed a mail fraud complaint for over $350 aginst the Paypal user which is less then half what they owe Paypal. (From a person Paypal claims does not exist)
The fraudulent buyer owes Paypal over $350.
So that money order is to go to Paypal if the person sending me money and the fraudulent user are the same. (Even though Paypal claims they never got the item)
But I will not give it to paypal until they admit the person got the item.
Damon claims the person did not get the item?
Paypal wants their cake and eat it to. They claim the person did not fraud me. They claimed the person never got the item. But they want money from someone who does not exist ?
So Paypal want to charge service fees for services that were never received? I paid for a service. I never got it. Paypal has no right to charge service fees for a money transfer that did not go thru.
I offered Damon and Paypal all kinds of information to catch this person or at least prove they pulled a scam. Damon did not want it.
Paypal and Damon never did one ounce of work to get any money from the buyer. I did the work so far. I am not going to give Paypal the $150 and then the rest out of my pocket. I am not going to give my item away for less then half price.
If Damon and the rest of the paypal crew want to claim the person never got the item, Paypal will never see any money from someone they claim does not exist.
It's a simple proven case of attempted mail fraud. It has been proven to Paypal that the buyer’s claim they processed against me was fraudulent. It has been proven Paypal processed a false claim.
If they don't want to admit it, then that person does not exist. So no money was ever received because you cannot get money from imaginary people.
Damon knows what's up. The person frauded me with a loophole in the system. Paypal allowed them to remove the confirmed address off the payment and they knew I had no way to get a court order in two days to force paypal to release it to me.
This is not a joke. I was a premier account holder for about 2 years.
This is a perfect example of what Paypal does not you to know. That people can use paypal to fraud and that paypal would not help even when it is proven that wrongdoing was done.
That is what I get for being a loyal / longtime Paypal user.
And yes, Auction watch can censor me by sending me e-mails but I have not broken any board rules. Partner service or not, Paypal screwed me and they will stand behind the fraudulent user.
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Dejapooh
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posted on July 5, 2002 10:01:57 AM
It's up to $10.50...
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maymaylau
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posted on July 5, 2002 04:17:56 PM
Two more days and counting. I wonder how much it will go for...
I hope an AuctionWatcher wins!
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kiara
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posted on July 6, 2002 07:43:11 AM
I don't know what Damon looks like but if he is such a "Hottie" maybe PayPal should start putting his pic on the mousepads and on those t-shirts he gives out. The ladies could get the one with his pic and "PAYPAL DAMON IS A HOTTIE" on theirs. He does a good job as a rep.
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thchaser200
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posted on July 6, 2002 08:49:12 AM
I will be watching it.
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maymaylau
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posted on July 8, 2002 09:49:04 AM
Now that eBay has bought Paypal, this may become a collector's item! I cannot wait to see the final bid....
Will "paypaldamon" become "ebaydamon" now?
http://msnbc.com/news/777414.asp
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alwaysbroke
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posted on July 8, 2002 10:02:55 AM
I hope they are phasing out Billpoint as they say and not Paypal.
Names?
ePay
eBaypal
Baypal
Palpoint
Paybay
ePal
http://www.sparedollar.com/sdGallery/usergallery.asp?uID=2261
http://www.sparedollar.com?ref=2261
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kiara
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posted on July 8, 2002 10:08:05 AM
PayBill
[ edited by kiara on Jul 8, 2002 10:38 AM ]
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maymaylau
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posted on July 8, 2002 10:05:22 PM
Closed at $36.13. Won by an AutionWatcher. Yeah!
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mrfoxy76
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posted on July 9, 2002 04:01:50 AM
what a waste of money!
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