posted on July 22, 2002 01:23:48 PM
Had this bidder buy/won this item, emailed EOA 2 hours later, no reply, emailed another EOA every 2 days, no reply, filed NPB after 8th day,no reply, 12 days later filed FVF, the guy gets NARU'ed. Then today I get this..
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Payment for this item was sent over 3 weeks ago! If you had not recieved the
payment then an email enquiring about this TO ME would have been appreciated.
The matter could have been sorted easily. Instead you went straight to ebay and
put a "NON PAYER" on me!!!!!!!! I will of course send the payment AGAIN if you
have not recieved it. Please contact ebay and remove this non payment which has
now disabled my account with them. I will RESEND the payment as soon as you
contact me with the total and your mailing address again. I appreciate the
frustration not recieving payment can cause being a seller myself, however I
have always found an email to the buyer concerned smooths out the problem 9
times out of ten.
Yours, Rik
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uh, correct me if I am wrong BUT the ONLY way he can now get back in ebays is if I let ebays know he PAID, thus making ebay collect FVF from my account, but if I do it now, and he fails to send payment, then i am out FVF, right?
Also HOW did he sent payment 3 weeks ago when I NEVER EMAILED him MY ADDRESS!!?? Well what would you do in this situation? Ignore him? Tell him he is lying for I never emailed him my address?
posted on July 22, 2002 01:32:15 PM
My suggestion... ignore him! Cut your losses while you can. I really don't see spending any more of your precious time on a deadbeat.
Think of it this way... you aren't the one who got him suspended from ebay. He obviously didn't pay at least 2 other sellers.
posted on July 22, 2002 02:10:06 PM
creativelabels is right. He contacted you now just because he's NARU, he wants to pay you so you cancel your complaint and he can be reinstated.
It happened to me once, a buyer clearly sent me email that she didn't want to pay for this auction she won. I followed up as per Ebay's policy, then she NARU. She begged me for about 2 weeks to let her pay for that auction and asked me to remove my complaint from Ebay. I just ignored her.
posted on July 22, 2002 03:18:53 PM
pretty much if the buyer doesnt respsond until after negative action is enforced and then immediately offers to pay AGAIN, they never paid in the first place. someone who really paid would not be so forth coming to throwing more money at you without investigating the issue of the sent payment that was never recieved.
ignore them. doing otherwise will only lead to more problems.
posted on July 22, 2002 03:28:05 PM
Ignore him!!
If he should mail you the money, and you should decide to accept it!
Then and only them should reverse the FVF!
If you do it any sooner it will only come back to bite you in the BUTT.
posted on July 22, 2002 05:13:57 PM
God, this guy does not give up, keeps emailing me the same email twice every hour. I feel like challenging him, saying"Well geez, since you claim you sent payment to my address which I never gave you, please re-send the payment to the mystery address which I never gave you 3 weeks ago, and when and if when it arrives, then i will let ebay know!" :rolleyes:
[ edited by ironking on Jul 22, 2002 05:15 PM ]
posted on July 22, 2002 05:24:36 PM
If deadbeats would spend a fraction of the time they spend harrassing sellers, and actually send their payment... there would be no deadbeats.
posted on July 22, 2002 06:18:48 PM
"HELP! Should I ignore this deadbeat?"
Yes, you should. Block him as a bidder. Block his e-mails, and forget it. Use your time selling not bickering with jerks.
posted on July 22, 2002 06:23:08 PM
Why not ask for the copy of the Check, Money Order or what ever he paid you with. If he can supply that then go and reverse your FVF. How did he know your name? Strange things are happening. It' beginning to be a full moon again, can't you tell.
posted on July 22, 2002 06:55:49 PM
I wouldn't reverse a FVF with a "copy of a money order or check." I'd have to have the moula in my hands before I would do that!
posted on July 22, 2002 08:55:41 PM
I didn't think they disabled your account until you had 2 or 3 NPBs filed against you - obviously he's done this before. I had a woman try this with me, I forwarded her all the e-mails I had sent and she hadn't answered - then she came up with some excuse with her e-mail address having problems. She still never sent payment. He's a DEADBEAT!
posted on July 23, 2002 08:47:52 AM
libra63, whatever he produces, it is bogus, for I NEVER gave him my address, nor my name! I guess you guys are correct,best to ignore him! (
posted on July 28, 2002 04:39:58 PM
Well I now HAD to reply to him for he sent me 5 emails a day! I just told him since you keep claiming to have my address please re-send the payment.
then I get this annoying message...
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I sent your payment you are in Canada right? I don't send things to Canada very often so I would remember. If this is not the case then its my mistake as far as I was aware I sent the payment. As I said I am very willing to send payment again including any fees incured by ebay but I need to know your address and ammount.
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I had to laugh! Canada?! My stuff was the only thing he bought in the last month and now he claims canada! So he couldn't possibly got me confused with someone else, must be playing mind games with me. So I said nope, I dont live in Canada, sorry. Then I get this
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Regarding the Transaction SENT THE FOLLOWING EMAIL TO
EBAY AS YOU WILL NOT ANSWER MINE:
Regarding the below
transaction The seller did not contact me prior to putting a NPB on me I had
sent payment 3 weeks ago!! I am more then willing to resend payment as it can
only have been lost in the postal system However after repeated emails the
seller is refusing to reply! How can this be fair? I have already sent payment.
If ithe payment has not been recieved I am more than willing to resend payment.
I am trying to contact the seller. BUT THEY DO NOT REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am more
than a little annoyed. Please help.
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So I emailed him saying I emailed you day before you sent this. In fact I send you 3 EOA which you never replied to, then ebays sent you a NPB warning, and finally a FVF email. Since you constantly claim I gave you a address, just where did you sent it to. Then I get this..
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Hello again.
I cannot send payment as I no longer have your address,(as I have mentioned to
you many times) I am willing to send payment but I need you to reiterate the
total costs inc. shipping to the UK. I am sure Ebay would think that my request
of your address is a perfectly reasonable request. I CANNOT SEND YOU PAYMENT IF
I DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO SEND IT CAN I??????????????????
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Sounds like BS to me. I agree with creativelabel, had this fellow spend this mych energy replying to my EOA, this wouldnt have happened. O was aout to reply, and 10 minutes later I get this..
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Hello again. I hope you are not being deliberatley obstructive this has been a
regrettable incident which I am TRYING to resolve in a civilised mannner.
I cannot send payment as I no longer have your address,(as I have mentioned to
you many times) I am willing to send payment but I need you to reiterate the
total costs inc. shipping to the UK. I am sure Ebay would think that my request
of your address is a perfectly reasonable request. I CANNOT SEND YOU PAYMENT IF
I DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO SEND IT CAN I??????????????????
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Well sure I can accept his money, and I guess I can remove the FVF request ONCE i get the cash in hand, but is it me, or this guy sounds like a troublemaker and maybe i should just ignore him? What do you think?
posted on July 28, 2002 05:19:07 PM
I would block him and forget him.
Keep copies of all emails, both ways.
And yes, if your FVF got him NARU'd, there were two others ahead of you he had burned.
I'm sure eBay is really listening to him - like they haven't heard it all before!
I had a similar one last year. Fortunately, I had already relisted, sold and shipped the items in question, so I had no decision to make. I emailed him once that the items were no longer available, and never responded again. He even left me postiive feedback trying to induce me to sell to him - over 2 months after the original auctions had ended, and a month or so after I had filed FVF! I never did block him - I was curious to see how long he would keep it up. He finally drifted away.
posted on July 28, 2002 08:47:02 PM
gc2 is right. Block the bidder the email address and any other way he is contacting you. Then forget him, move on. It sounds like he and the headaches he is causing you is taking too much of your time that should be spent on your other customers and auctions. Save your emails and if eBay contacts you, then proceed. He's a deadbeat, pure and simple.
